I have never managed to kill anyone in PvP ever, however the way to learn is to find someone who is good to teach you, preferably with voice comms.

Join a guild, learn by playing in a coordinated group and from experienced players. Watch videos on youtube, and the most important thing: Practice a lot.

Casering wrote: »

not to mention I play the hardest class ever for pvp the DK idk if it is but in my personal opinion it seems the most difficult to use due to its lack of skills that are considered op in pvp unlike night blades with their health steals and surprise attacks which require pretty much no aiming and sorcs ranged and wards either way I may just skip pvp for this char and try again on a nightblade probably will be allot easier

Dk is hard to play in pvp but you should at least be able to pull a few favorable tricks out of your hat. Like i said i play every class and if you need some tips maybe try reflective scales, dragon leap, and burning talons. Or are you just outnumbered? DO you focus on magika or stamina?

Your thread title made me laugh. XD

Sorry, I know you had a bad time. That's what I dislike about PVP too. And you do have a point about non-beginners in Blackwater Blade. Mostly I just do the PVE in Cyrodil and help with keep defense and other zergs (Go team!) Individual PVP glory is not happening for me.

BUT, that is the nature of PVP. The big fish eat the little fish. Those with no other life get really good so they can beat us up and take our lunch money. Stay with group actions or learn to sneak around a lot. Read about how to make and use better builds (there is a lot of info out there). Do PVE until you get to a level where you have a hope of defending yourself. And expect to get one shotted a lot anyway when you do PVP.

Also, there is a LOT of PVE available in ESO and you don't have to play it alone since you can find people to group with you and play cooperatively.

yeah I have a level 39 NB so I might take him for a spin.
CP in black water also takes the fun outa non vet seeming like CP is the main thing that makes the vets op.
I heard it'll be removed from BWB so happy to hear that as for healing guess I could try levelling the old resto staff but for now im just gonna get vet 16 and enjoy making my set.
either way thanks for the comments was kinda expecting people to come and insult me for being a noob happens allot on other games to anyone who posts these kinda threads glad to see that wasn't the case.

as I said to you in the trade guild earlier it's all about cp and gear set up, you've defo got the wrong gear set up for stam dk from the gear you told me, even as a vr11 if you've got the right gear you stand a better chance due to the battle spirit buff in pvp.

good news though with a future update there will be a no cp campaign

I assume I'll be on the server again tomorrow at some point so if you need help just pm me.

well they are going to implement non-cp campains so that is as close as it get's to a "noob-campain" other ways to make a server just for noobs would be hard to mainain. They would either be empty or abused by more experienced players

a lot of people are playing stam dk now, i think you can learn by observation, dont go in the middle of the battle, use flying blade to finish people off. When you see your side is winning you can jump in and start spamming steel tornado etc

When faced with a massive enemy zerg or bombtrain the best thing is to disengage and dodge roll out of the way , dont try to be a hero and stand in front of the train. It hurts

Some very good advice up there in previous responces, but here was my learning process:

Firstly, I teamed up with just a couple of mates, we tried to learn how to read the battle-flow. Keep lookin at the map to see what keeps are getting attacked/defended, how many siege weapons are there etc. with this info we'd go somewhere between where say a keep of ours was being attacked and where we expected the enemies to be coming from.

Once you have your rough area, get some good local terrain that benefits you, where you have a good field of vison, and can see how many enemies are coming towards you, see whether it's safe to engage or if you need to stay hidden.

Now, say you're with one mate, and you see an enemy approach, you can see he's about the same level, attack him by yourself, your mate remains in hiding. He can either join in if it's going bad, or wait and revive you if you get wiped quickly.

After some time, you'll get to learn where some good spots are, start expanding on those, check out the pve quest zones (some people will think this is a bit mean, but hey *** all's fair etc)

With more experience, you'll even learn where enemies like to gank players when leaving your own keeps, go to those spots and stay hidden and wait for some action. Before I forget, get your mount speed to maximum asap, not only great for chasing down enemies but invaluable for running when you have to. Rapid manouvers is a must for this type of play too, whichever morph you get.

The advantage of doing this as a duo/small group is that there's no pressure to be 'leet', or even competent Get a mate you can chill with and take your time, someone who you can just enjoy chatting with even when it's quiet. You'll be avoiding most of the zergs, most of the time biggest zerg = winner in those situations and you won't really learn too much, but if you get seperated from your zerg (which easilly happens) the chances are you'll run into an enemy zerg at some point.

you'll get much fewer fights at first, but soon you'll know where to go for some action, you'll start to feel more confident about picking off the last of the zergs who got sperated from the herd to chop some wood or similar.

As always, practice rules. If you're able to record gameplay, record your fights even if not uploading, it is massively helpful to watch them back and learn from your mistakes. A small example that shows my own stupidity, I was in a fight with a stam sorc against some guy with SnB, couldn't understand how my overload attacks weren't damaging him at all. On playback I realised he was reflecting every one XD. Seems so stupid I know, but we all make mistakes and in the heat of batle it's easy to miss what we do wrong, watching a playback has taught me LOADS, not just about what went right, but much more importantly what I did wrong.

I've gone from being someone who jumps at shadows in Cyrodiil to someone who'll happily go around IC or Cyrodiil solo or in

Hi, I'm an experienced player, have rocked PVP in quite a few games, and on ESO I don't like the PVP either.

The only advice I can give you is to run with a group, copy the builds/gear of some more experienced pvp-ers and learn the very basics of animation cancelling.

Or you could go for a build that requires absolutely no skill.


That said, I've heard rumours that dueling is in development meaning that you could learn the basics from a friend or a guildy. Good luck!

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Alec508 wrote: »

I think the "teaching" people are bs. I've done everything in this game myself .. Not legit everything but I never had someone teach me pvp. I just read a lot about builds and pvp techniques. What also helped me was making one of every class and trying them all out in pvp and now I do great in pvp. Just wait til non cp campaigns come out and we will see who is actually good. Hahahaha I can't wait

Know your enemy and know yourself, find naught in fear for 100 battles.
Know yourself but not your enemy, find level of loss and victory.
Know thy enemy but not yourself, wallow in defeat every time.
Sun Tzu

Love the Art of War!

You could try a different build, see if it fits your play style better, theres loads of friendly guilds who are willing to train people for better PVP, but all in all the single best thing you can do is just keep trying. you can go a bit deeper even and take mental note on what killed you and why, then during off time look into ways to counter that. Keep at it, you'll get there.