Why does everyone hate EP so much?

Moglijuana · December 2015

SneaK wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0J7dqww1fM

This is why everyone hates EP. They try and gank you and then just run away when they fail and see all their buddies die.

Cool build, good gameplay. Using Chains like a boss.

Thanks brah! Still missing 5 more pieces of gear. Should be fun when I'm done

SneaK · December 2015

Moglijuana wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0J7dqww1fM

This is why everyone hates EP. They try and gank you and then just run away when they fail and see all their buddies die.

Cool build, good gameplay. Using Chains like a boss.

Thanks brah! Still missing 5 more pieces of gear. Should be fun when I'm done

What is your gear? Light armor DK?

Moglijuana · December 2015

SneaK wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

SneaK wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0J7dqww1fM

This is why everyone hates EP. They try and gank you and then just run away when they fail and see all their buddies die.

Cool build, good gameplay. Using Chains like a boss.

Thanks brah! Still missing 5 more pieces of gear. Should be fun when I'm done

What is your gear? Light armor DK?

As of now, 4/3pc (2 Heavy, DW, Resto)Magnus, 3 pc Will power, 5pc Martial Knowledge. Working on getting some Kagrenacs.

Anzriel · December 2015

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anzriel wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0J7dqww1fM

This is why everyone hates EP. They try and gank you and then just run away when they fail and see all their buddies die.

So you hate EP because they do the same thing your alliance does, except they're more successful in pvp overall as an alliance. Okay.

If by successful you mean needing 3+ people to "gank" a Magicka DK and then fail, or having groups of 2-3 raids to take a single keep. Then yes you are right.

My point is that this holier than thou crap I see everywhere is so stupid. Anyone remotely objective knows all alliances do this. Guess what? I've been on all alliances. I've seen gankers in all alliances.They all do this, and when they fail they run away. They aren't built for a "fair" fight.

Hating an alliance because they zerg is just as silly. AD Zergs just as much, DC zergs whenever they have the numbers on to do so. No alliance is innocent in this. So please, for the love of Pete, stop with the "only EP does this!" nonsense. I've seen DC defending keeps with 2-3 raids all the time, AD too. I've also seen EP defend and take keeps with less than that. Same with AD and DC. (Lore wise I can understand hating EP, even if it isn't my thing personally)

CavalierPrime · December 2015

Ps4 NA EP Azuras Star Magicka DK
Im new to pvp and I roll with a guild. We zerg because everyone zergs. Yellow has smaller groups. Blue vs Red is just a contest of who's zerg can catch the other offguard. Blue vs Red is the never-ending war. Yellow is some goofy Elves just to distract us.

zornyan · December 2015

Here's a summary for today's ep tactics on pc eu Azura's sewers.

Since 9 am this morning 3-4 reds have been ganking and camping next to our base, thanks to the fixed loading screen issue they appear back within 2 minutes when killed.

It started off with one, we killed him multiple times, then two , then theee, and so on, ever increasing numbers. After a couple hours of putting these noobs in their place we went on to our normal sewer spots to grind trophies.

Then a red turns up, tries to Gank , fails, dies, I notice it's the same ganker for earlier, he messages me saying "I nearly killed you all you all suck " I kindly reminded him that he is dead, and I appreciate the extra 500 stones he gave me and my friends.

5 minutes later...2 reds...they die....then 4 reds, all nbs.

After this wave we ported back to base, dropped our stones off and headed back out, to notice 18 ....yes 18 bloody reds had come back after us.

Obviously we four died, then the entire zerg decided to keep camping and ganking, yes an entire zerg of people sat in stealth ganking...go pathetic.

That's why we hate ep, I saw one yellow today, just one, reds on the other hand are just cowardly gankers..

Akinos · December 2015

Wow...still so much actual hate for EP in this thread LOL. You guys know it's a game right? You've never met any of the people you hate so much in person have you? How can you hate people you know nothing about?

Not that it matters to all the people raging at red in this thread. All you haters just make us look greater

GreenSoup2HoT · December 2015

I'm on DC and i hated EP so much, i decided to make a magicka DK on EP. That'll show them EP.

olivaresdonjuan · December 2015

The hate us because they ain't us. You see the hate when the green alliance attacks from the west and south. Leaving nikel and brindle alone, blue trying to take chalman and yellow stuck in a bridge battle.

LadyNalcarya · December 2015

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Why don't YOU go to your buff campaign on Xbox and rally some people to come to Haderus.So you can get you guys numbers up.

Nah I don't encourage the zergs and Zerg balls , getting numbers is too easy. The lag in Haderus is already bad enough, no thank you we'll just continue to farm for AP.

Lol the only AP reds can ever farm is a siege merchant.

I honestly have a lot of fun fighting reds, purely because they lack so much skill I can 1vx easily, and enjoy the rage messages I get after that 4 or 5 reds couldn't kill me.

I find a lot more skillful players when I fight yellows.

Yeah I'm sure you do , EP is very bad well that explains why I just farmed ad at sej not too long ago with less numbers Lool stop fighting pugs thinking it's a big deal, they make up the majority of every alliance. Don't talk about 1vx unless it's actually good people

The proof is in the pudding, on pc eu and ps4 eu where ever ep has the same numbers as dc or ad EP are bottom, because they literially can't win a fight unless it's 10 to 1.

The only servers reds do well on are when it's 3 full bar reds vs 1 bar of the other two.

Thats not true we would have won azuras this month if it wasnt for the blues and yellows attacking just us for the last week. I mean we have no scrolls and 4 keeps 2 are sieged by blue and kings and farra by yellow. Seriously?

So regardless of all that, on an equal numbers server you lost.

Point proven, thanks

wtf? How is playing 2vs1 equal numbered?

Did you even read what I wrote? Or did you just pick what you wanted to?

EP has literally double the numbers of AD and DC, its where all the fangirls go.

So what does it matter we have population caps?

Populatin caps dont matter when the other factions do not have their population capped and EP has it cosntantly capped and almost ALWAYS run with their whole population in one group causing epic lag. Add the ridiculous amount of nightblades around right now and it is pretty easy to hate the fangirl pact.

so you perfectly described what ad and dc are doing on EU Azura and EP is not saying *** all DC or *** all AD
Everyone is causing lag cause the server cant handle it its not EPs fault its ZOS fault. Is that so hard to get into your head? Or are you just the type of player that just needs someone he can hate and since everyone is hating EP you hate them too?

I have many more reasons to hate them, lore wise as well, and from what I ahve seen EP is the biggest offender when it comes to all the very annoying things this game offers, zergblobs, lagaoespamming, ganking, and FOMness. AD does it too, same with DC, but not nearly as bad as EP. Hated them since the game started, hate has just grown since then.

Lol you really hate EP for everything we could do in Cyrodiil. You hate us when we go in big groups you hate us for smallscale ganking,... Wth is wrong with you?

Btw why would you hate Ep lorewise? If Id hate an alliance for the lore it would be AD. They are killing argonian eggs and stealing peoples skins. EP and DC did nothing compareable cruel.

Slavery and ethnic cleansing. The dunmer deserved what they got when the argonians slaughtered them. And the nords are responsible for an entire race of elves being exterminated.

Small scale pvp is not ganking, small scale is small group v group battles, not waiting for a single person to go through a gate and then all attacking at once with the easiest class in the game to use. Your attitude is also another reason I hate EP, lots of immature people like yourself.

you know that this was 1000 yeas after eso?
Those elves attacked the nords too and killed many of them. The first nord settlement was completly destroyed by them.

haha thanks for making my day. Calling me immature just because I question your aguments. I think this conversation is over now

Well, you can see a lot of slaves in Morrowind. Yeah, enslaving argonians is now illegal, but there's even an enslaver boss in Shadowfen and a random event where you can save an argonian from enslavers. And there's a lot of khajiit slaves as well.
And yeah, I really think that being slavemasters for centuries is much worse than a group of insane maniacs who would probably be executed by their own government. I really like dunmer but I do think that they're very cruel. Also Morrowind is the only country where you can legally hire an assassin.

Speaking of Saarthal events, its unclear who started thsi conflict, and in any case it's not an excuse for wiping an entire race, even those who didnt participate in the Night of Tears.
Sorry, just a bit tired of "blood for the pact!" types who claim that their alliance is the most innocent and honorable. Every culture in ES universe has its flaws and its black sheeps. And its good because it makes the story less "black and white".

RedRoomGaming · December 2015

TBH! Azura reds ALWAYS lose the past 3 months I have been in there. I just leave after a week or so and wait for the next campaign purely because it is annoying as hell!

I am grinding a sorc fr a bit more ability in pvp.

For the pact!
EU PS4 Azuras

Morozov · December 2015

I hate EP because they are red........like crabs..........im allergic to shellfish

SeventhWarlock · December 2015

It might have something to do with a handful of people whining in the chat about "insensitive" language, referring to a comment about "blue a*****s" (DC gankers). Didn't know the zone chat on EP Blackwater bay was reserved for Sunday school teaching on Sunday evenings.

If those are your concerns while doing pvp, no surprise the campaign isn't going to go well.

/rant off

zornyan · December 2015

SeventhWarlock wrote: »

It might have something to do with a handful of people whining in the chat about "insensitive" language, referring to a comment about "blue a*****s" (DC gankers). Didn't know the zone chat on EP Blackwater bay was reserved for Sunday school teaching on Sunday evenings.

If those are your concerns while doing pvp, no surprise the campaign isn't going to go well.

/rant off

That's your rant? Really? You know there are some people who don't like casual swearing in the world? Or is that such a terrible thing that swearing casually is disgusting to some adults?

How would you feel about people throwing around racial slurs in zone chat? No different when people swear. Man up and be an adult.

SeventhWarlock · December 2015

zornyan wrote: »

SeventhWarlock wrote: »

It might have something to do with a handful of people whining in the chat about "insensitive" language, referring to a comment about "blue a*****s" (DC gankers). Didn't know the zone chat on EP Blackwater bay was reserved for Sunday school teaching on Sunday evenings.

If those are your concerns while doing pvp, no surprise the campaign isn't going to go well.

/rant off

That's your rant? Really? You know there are some people who don't like casual swearing in the world? Or is that such a terrible thing that swearing casually is disgusting to some adults?

How would you feel about people throwing around racial slurs in zone chat? No different when people swear. Man up and be an adult.

Are you seriously comparing swearing to racial slurs?

Racism is not cool. Except towards elves.

There's a big difference between attacking people on a personal level and swearing towards the enemy on an online game. Numericals digits are not people.

Chill out. Ever been to a football game? Most adults have enough distance to themselves to be relaxed at their free time. You don't have to be like a Sunday school teacher all the time even if you're 18 or older.

zornyan · December 2015

SeventhWarlock wrote: »

zornyan wrote: »

SeventhWarlock wrote: »

It might have something to do with a handful of people whining in the chat about "insensitive" language, referring to a comment about "blue a*****s" (DC gankers). Didn't know the zone chat on EP Blackwater bay was reserved for Sunday school teaching on Sunday evenings.

If those are your concerns while doing pvp, no surprise the campaign isn't going to go well.

/rant off

That's your rant? Really? You know there are some people who don't like casual swearing in the world? Or is that such a terrible thing that swearing casually is disgusting to some adults?

How would you feel about people throwing around racial slurs in zone chat? No different when people swear. Man up and be an adult.

Are you seriously comparing swearing to racial slurs?

Racism is not cool. Except towards elves. There's a big difference between attacking people on a personal level and swearing towards the enemy on an online game. Numericals digits are not people.

Chill out. Ever been to a football game? Most adults have enough distance to themselves to be relaxed at their free time. You don't have to be like a Sunday school teacher all the time even if you're 18 or older.

I'm saying that to a large number of people in the world it's highly offensive, my wife's family are heavily religious and I have to watch my tongue whilst I'm round there, I go down the pub with one of my close friends and every other word is c**t.

But you've got to appreciate there can be younger kids playing the game, and like I said it can be very offensive to some people, so if someone does say something about your languahe, just apologie for being rude and move on like an adult

SeventhWarlock · December 2015

I'm catholic myself. I wouldn't swear at Church (obviously), but you know - hanging out with the guys (or gals), that's a different matter.

Fine. I just think we should have a relaxed environment while playing. If some people don't like some words, don't use them.

zornyan · December 2015

SeventhWarlock wrote: »

I'm catholic myself. I wouldn't swear at Church (obviously), but you know - hanging out with the guys (or gals), that's a different matter.

Fine. I just think we should have a relaxed environment while playing. If some people don't like some words, don't use them.

I understand, all I'm saying it's you, I or anyone else have to understand that when we swear, be it in public, or on a game for people to read, you have to be prepared to apologize if someone finds it offensive.

We've all done it before, I was working on my car outside my house one day, smashed my hand quote badly on something, shouted out fu****ng hell at the top of my voice, saw some kids and a mum walking by and said sorry as she looked shocked.

Shadow_Akula · December 2015

Sorry mate but from my time in PVP it's EP and AD doing the teaming up against DC - look at the current servers especially the 7 day ones - all keeps owned by either AD or EP nothing owned by DC and DC's killed on sight in villages and caves.

xXNesTXx · December 2015

LOL I love this thread hahaha

"EP only can win fights in 10v1" "EP are a zergs noobs"......but....I play in Thornblade PS4 EU and there....Yellows only do kills ganking low level players in Cropsford while leveling, and same for blues in Bruma...or ganking in sewers.....and of course, in huge groups....because fighting in a similar numbers...got screwed LOL

Today was very funny, because a group of 10 yellow fools, was in there, ganking people until a same number of reds comes.....obviously, the yellows was screwed, and they received a well deserved tbag, and another some humiliating emotes....they come back again....and got screwed...again xD so, some of they decided wait in the light tower to gank in 4v1 while some red do the Crown point quest....

Some of us see how a poor vet 5 was ganked in there....so we go there to help but appears another group of yellows and my buddy was killed.....they go, and I try to revive my buddy, but two hidden yellows appears to kill me....but they die in 2v1....I revive my buddy, but three more yellows come back and kill us.....

Then I receive a message of one of those yellows, saying, "Reds only knows kills in group" or something like that...

WTF?? are you serious? hahaha, you are ganking non veteran players and you was killed by me in 2v1 , and you send me that? LOL
Come on!!

So....what is the real reason for that hate to EP?? a epic and true envy for having a alliance with a huge group of good players who do ganks for fun and not for necessity, and we have enough players to play in biggest groups all the time

And being honest....your hate, (apart from that this is just a game) only confirm your foolishness, and is a little bit pathetic.....

olivaresdonjuan · December 2015

DC tries the same in scourge with the same results. Haven't ran into AD in while though

Lucky28 · December 2015

Moglijuana wrote: »

Anzriel wrote: »

Moglijuana wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0J7dqww1fM

This is why everyone hates EP. They try and gank you and then just run away when they fail and see all their buddies die.

So you hate EP because they do the same thing your alliance does, except they're more successful in pvp overall as an alliance. Okay.

If by successful you mean needing 3+ people to "gank" a Magicka DK and then fail, or having groups of 2-3 raids to take a single keep. Then yes you are right.

Meh, i've had similar experiences with DC and AD just tonight. on my Lv. 44 character i 1vXed three DC V16's and two AD V16's. and everytime i saw them after they would instantly drop their ults or run. those where bad players doesn't mean the entire faction is filled with the like.