Please give me a reason to not stop playing this game.

Thornen · December 2015

As the title suggests its taken me an entire 3 months to get to the point of looking for excuses to log into this game. And before all you white knights jump down my throat, I love this game but I can't get past the blatant bugs, bad design decisions, bad forum design and poor customer support. Honestly this is the best mmo I've played in the last 3 years but at the same time its looking to be the shortest amount of time I will spend playing one. The million dollar giveaway isn't going to stop people leaving if these issues aren't fixed.

leepalmer95 · December 2015

Thornen wrote: »

As the title suggests its taken me an entire 3 months to get to the point of looking for excuses to log into this game. And before all you white knights jump down my throat, I love this game but I can't get past the blatant bugs, bad design decisions, bad forum design and poor customer support. Honestly this is the best mmo I've played in the last 3 years but at the same time its looking to be the shortest amount of time I will spend playing one. The million dollar giveaway isn't going to stop people leaving if these issues aren't fixed.

What are your issues?

Eirella · December 2015

If you can't think of a reason to play, then don't play. Why force yourself to enjoy something?

Shardaxx · December 2015

cos its fun?

kylewwefan · December 2015

If you're not enjoying it, by all means do something else.

Callous2208 · December 2015

You're going to have to be more specific here. Personally I don't encounter too many, if any bugs in my day to day here. What design decisions? Forum design? Not sure what customer service issues you've had, but again, I can't relate, because my experience with ESO CS has been fine. You are very vague here and by your own admission, love the game. Also, just an fyi, throwing out the white knight insult is getting a bit cliche and unoriginal. You're asking to be flamed with that remark, especially tossing it out so boldly before anyone had responded. I really hope this isn't another one of those posts created to serve but one purpose. Gathering others of the same opinion to come in and stroke your ego by telling you how right you are and clicking agree.

Thornen · December 2015

The problem is I enjoy the game but constantly running into bugs daily, and poor design decisions like not being able to enter pvp on a alt on any campaign due to being on a different faction to my other characters just kills the enjoyment. To the point where the last week running into the npc vanishes bug wich pretty much happens once a day just makes me hit esc and quit the game.

TiberX · December 2015

Why should I? If u don't enjoy it just leave, its not the end of the world if u leave .
I wont start a topic before i leave and i wish people stop doing this.

PS: may I have your

stuff?

Callous2208 · December 2015

Thornen wrote: »

The problem is I enjoy the game but constantly running into bugs daily, and poor design decisions like not being able to enter pvp on a alt on any campaign due to being on a different faction to my other characters just kills the enjoyment. To the point where the last week running into the npc vanishes bug wich pretty much happens once a day just makes me hit esc and quit the game.

The pvp thing was implemented for good reason back in the day. Whether or not it still serves that purpose well is debatable, but I can't see how that's a deal breaker as far as wanting to continue playing. Have you submitted a bug report for the vanishing npc? Which one is it. Only one I get on occasion is the one in Wrothgar for turning the daily wb quest, but a re-log fixes that issue. Hardly a total enjoyment killer for me.

Thalmor-Nordmaster · December 2015

Think of your in game friends. Do not abandon them !!

Lightninvash · December 2015

if you got bugs maybe need to switch your shampoo

Thornen · December 2015

Callous2208 wrote: »

Thornen wrote: »

The problem is I enjoy the game but constantly running into bugs daily, and poor design decisions like not being able to enter pvp on a alt on any campaign due to being on a different faction to my other characters just kills the enjoyment. To the point where the last week running into the npc vanishes bug wich pretty much happens once a day just makes me hit esc and quit the game.

The pvp thing was implemented for good reason back in the day. Whether or not it still serves that purpose well is debatable. Have you submitted a bug report for the vanishing npc? Which one is it. Only one I get on occasion is the one in Wrothgar for turning the daily wb quest, but a re-log fixes that issue. Hardly a total enjoyment killer for me.

What good reason? Spying? Because I can simply log into a character in the same guild as someon on the other faction and give them better info without the risk of being ganked while doing so. But thats just 1 example just saying alot of people I've spoken too have had the same issues or felt the same, the majority of my friends list over the last 3 months from 100 to 15 due to people being offline for over a month. And having to log out and in to fix quests is pretty much the Zenimax fix for that.

Callous2208 · December 2015

Thornen wrote: »

Callous2208 wrote: »

Thornen wrote: »

The problem is I enjoy the game but constantly running into bugs daily, and poor design decisions like not being able to enter pvp on a alt on any campaign due to being on a different faction to my other characters just kills the enjoyment. To the point where the last week running into the npc vanishes bug wich pretty much happens once a day just makes me hit esc and quit the game.

The pvp thing was implemented for good reason back in the day. Whether or not it still serves that purpose well is debatable. Have you submitted a bug report for the vanishing npc? Which one is it. Only one I get on occasion is the one in Wrothgar for turning the daily wb quest, but a re-log fixes that issue. Hardly a total enjoyment killer for me.

What good reason? Spying? Because I can simply log into a character in the same guild as someon on the other faction and give them better info without the risk of being ganked while doing so. But thats just 1 example just saying alot of people I've spoken too have had the same issues or felt the same, the majority of my friends list over the last 3 months from 100 to 15 due to people being offline for over a month. And having to log out and in to fix quests is pretty much the Zenimax fix for that.

As I said the merits of the pvp thing are debatable. And if you read my other post, that 1 quest, calls for a re-log on occasion. These are not deal breakers for me, but I realize everyone takes things differently. All of these points are moot though. If you do not enjoy the game, what could I, or others who are enjoying it, say to change your mind? Looks like this was just not the game for you and your friends, maybe move on to whatever title they jumped too. I wish you all the luck and happiness in the world.

Jura23 · December 2015

go for Master Angler. Fishing is not bugged atm I think and that will keep you occupied until they fix stuff.

ADarklore · December 2015

I think the only time I ever have to log out and back in to fix an NPC quest bug is when I have an NPC that is supposed to 'follow' me... and many times going through doorways and such they never reappear- but that happens infrequently and definitely isn't 'game breaking'.

JaJaLuka · December 2015

Maybe look into other games. Take a look at Star Citizen (looks cool to me, but still in Alpha stage), EQ Next for a sandbox if that's what you're into or maybe you'll find something else you do like. It's up to you, if you don't enjoy logging in, don't. Or maybe you just need a break from it.

Lord Xanhorn · December 2015

You arguments seems superficial. Not having fun cause you don't like the combat or large scale PVP, or not enough end game PVE groups to get into...those are all good complaints. Complaining about PVP design decisions that are there to combat exploiting doesn't seem valid. I venture to guess that you'd be on the front lines complaining that your faction is spying for the other team if you constantly were getting zerged down and could never sneak up on anything cause of the constant spying.

Thornen · December 2015

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

You arguments seems superficial. Not having fun cause you don't like the combat or large scale PVP, or not enough end game PVE groups to get into...those are all good complaints. Complaining about PVP design decisions that are there to combat exploiting doesn't seem valid. I venture to guess that you'd be on the front lines complaining that your faction is spying for the other team if you constantly were getting zerged down and could never sneak up on anything cause of the constant spying.

Lol...because I can't be in another factions guilds and spy more efficiently while playing on the same faction..combat is fine the bugs that cause combat and gameplay to break aren't and honestly I haven't played a game in my memory with as frequent bug occurances as this 1, and no the majority aren't game breaking more just soul destroying.

The fact that 1 of my alts can't even enter cyrodiil due to other alts being assigned to campaigns is just ***, no reason at all for this to still be in the game.

Tryxus · December 2015

I have moments like those as well.

What you need is a nice break, from 1-7 days or so and play a couple of offline games or focus a bit more on rl things

I love ESO, it's a great game, I've met many great ppl here and it's a fun way of playing a TES game with other ppl online. But there are times when you could use a break like that.

Just relax for a while, and when you come back you'll feel the enjoyment from this game again

Callous2208 · December 2015

Thornen wrote: »

and no the majority aren't game breaking more just soul destroying.

...really? Soul destroying? I think you need to move on at this point. Take a deep breath, look up some other games, find out where those friends ran off to.

MasterFUNG_ESO · December 2015

If playing game=Having fun, then keep playing.
If playing game=Not having fun, play something else.

UltimaJoe777 · December 2015

If you leave, you will never know where the treasure is!

Catblade · December 2015

Do what i do and go around leaving mystery meat for everyone. Gotta feed the hungry

shadelon · December 2015

The pvp thing is going to be changed. In Thieves Guild actually I believe. It was in the last eso live.

ADarklore · December 2015

Thornen wrote: »

... no the majority aren't game breaking more just soul destroying.

Wow... drama much?!?

Merry · December 2015

I actually agree with most of the OPs points but they arent game breaking for me. I dont see me playing this as long as I normally play an MMO though. /shrug

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CapnPhoton · December 2015

You may want to consider something else. You may be tired of games or MMOs in general. It is a hard thing to admit and people can deny it even to themselves. Denial comes from remembering how much they enjoyed gaming for years in the past and having a difficult time letting go because they want to recapture it. A few people I knew came to the same conclusion but it took them a while. They also 'liked' the game they were playing. They both took a month long break from all gaming, then realized that they had other things they could do. then gaming became something that they just did occasionally.

Volkodav · December 2015

I could give you tons of reasons,but they would bee my own reasons.Not yours.If you want to stop playing,you dont like the game to begin with.Find another.

ADarklore · December 2015

CapnPhoton wrote: »

You may want to consider something else. You may be tired of games or MMOs in general. It is a hard thing to admit and people can deny it even to themselves. Denial comes from remembering how much they enjoyed gaming for years in the past and having a difficult time letting go because they want to recapture it. A few people I knew came to the same conclusion but it took them a while. They also 'liked' the game they were playing. They both took a month long break from all gaming, then realized that they had other things they could do. then gaming became something that they just did occasionally.

This is actually a very good point. There are a lot of 'nostalgic' MMO players who pine for the glory days of MMOs and refuse to accept that MMOs of today have changed from what they used to be five or ten years ago... they still go on expecting to find the same experience they did many years ago, and then constantly complain in forums when they do not. Years ago MMOs were pretty much exclusive to PC and because of that and also because of the limited MMO offerings, they were solely populated by MMO enthusiasts. Fast forward to today, consoles are now a large part of the MMO market, PC gaming is down, which means that MMOs are now mainly supported by casual and solo player console gamers. Also, because of the MMO market growth, those PC enthusiasts of old are now spread out across the market- which makes finding similar minded, old school MMO players more difficult.

CapnPhoton · December 2015

ADarklore wrote: »

CapnPhoton wrote: »

You may want to consider something else. You may be tired of games or MMOs in general. It is a hard thing to admit and people can deny it even to themselves. Denial comes from remembering how much they enjoyed gaming for years in the past and having a difficult time letting go because they want to recapture it. A few people I knew came to the same conclusion but it took them a while. They also 'liked' the game they were playing. They both took a month long break from all gaming, then realized that they had other things they could do. then gaming became something that they just did occasionally.

This is actually a very good point. There are a lot of 'nostalgic' MMO players who pine for the glory days of MMOs and refuse to accept that MMOs of today have changed from what they used to be five or ten years ago... they still go on expecting to find the same experience they did many years ago, and then constantly complain in forums when they do not. Years ago MMOs were pretty much exclusive to PC and because of that and also because of the limited MMO offerings, they were solely populated by MMO enthusiasts. Fast forward to today, consoles are now a large part of the MMO market, PC gaming is down, which means that MMOs are now mainly supported by casual and solo player console gamers. Also, because of the MMO market growth, those PC enthusiasts of old are now spread out across the market- which makes finding similar minded, old school MMO players more difficult.

For me, my glory days were on EQOA on PS2. I had the same group of friends who did everything together from gaming to chatting every night and even talking on the phone. I still know a few of them. I moved on to EQ2 which was superior in just about every way with tons more content and options, but I could never recapture the friendship aspect. It was a good thing that the game is highly soloable where EQOA was not. I stopped playing it in late 2010 because I had other things to do. Now I play ESO after a 5 year break but I will never be hardcore because I have other things to do.