Can you get banned for using macros?

Gothlander · December 2015

I was thinking of making macros with my razor naga mouse.

Anzriel · December 2015

I believe it's against ToS. So technically, yes. FYI there really isn't anything difficult enough you would even need macros for in this game. In fact you'd probably be worse off using them imo.

Artjuh90 · December 2015

would be fair

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO · December 2015

technically yes but I doubt they enforce it. I don't know of any MMO that does.

That being said... this game is so damn simple it really doesn't need macros combat wise. The only place I can think where it could come in handy is to make one that loops your quickslot in cyrodill so you don't have to break your fingers repairing keep walls or perhaps making a lot of potions or food while crafting.

gw2only1b14_ESO · December 2015

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »

technically yes but I doubt they enforce it. I don't know of any MMO that does.

That being said... this game is so damn simple it really doesn't need macros combat wise. The only place I can think where it could come in handy is to make one that loops your quickslot in cyrodill so you don't have to break your fingers repairing keep walls or perhaps making a lot of potions or food while crafting.

Word, OR Addons really.. Played 1st year with none Now have them realize I save about 1hr of gaming time every day

CapnPhoton · December 2015

People macro-ing crafting in EQ2 was an issue. But they would occasionally release a patch that would nullify them for a while.

Egonieser · December 2015

They have no way to police it as it's not a hack software that alters the client/files or injects any foreign 3rd party code. While not being allowed, it's also not really forbidden either because unless they come to your house and watch you play, they have no real way of proving it and thus ban you.
But realistically, don't think they care anyway.

TheBull · December 2015

No, you will just get destroyed by any 1/2 competent player. This is ain't WoW.

Gothlander · December 2015

What about a macro that does a light attack and an ability at the same time? Is that ok?

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Gothlander · December 2015

Gothlander wrote: »

What about a macro that does a light attack and an ability at the same time? Is that ok?

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I think this way is even faster than cancelling animation.

Egonieser · December 2015

Gothlander wrote: »

What about a macro that does a light attack and an ability at the same time? Is that ok?

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There is always a delay, which is engine-side. Despite having no delay on the macro, the game engine still uses the speed of utilities hard-coded in the engine. AFAIK only a hack software can override that.

Gothlander · December 2015

Egonieser wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

What about a macro that does a light attack and an ability at the same time? Is that ok?

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There is always a delay, which is engine-side. Despite having no delay on the macro, the game engine still uses the speed of utilities hard-coded in the engine. AFAIK only a hack software can override that.

Well Im in gaming pressing this button and it is shooting my bow and doing my heal at the same time. I think its pretty op.

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO · December 2015

That kind of macro isn't something you want to use at all. It will shoot you in the foot more than you realize. For instance, empowered will be consumed by your light attack instead of the ability, etc.

Pressing left mouse button followed by your ability isn't hard at all to do. It took me all of 30 seconds to learn.

Gothlander · December 2015

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »

That kind of macro isn't something you want to use at all. It will shoot you in the foot more than you realize. For instance, empowered will be consumed by your light attack instead of the ability, etc.

Pressing left mouse button followed by your ability isn't hard at all to do. It took me all of 30 seconds to learn.

you might be right there. Im a little new and only lvl 45 so I am still learning the game.

Egonieser · December 2015

Gothlander wrote: »

Egonieser wrote: »

Gothlander wrote: »

What about a macro that does a light attack and an ability at the same time? Is that ok?

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There is always a delay, which is engine-side. Despite having no delay on the macro, the game engine still uses the speed of utilities hard-coded in the engine. AFAIK only a hack software can override that.

Well Im in gaming pressing this button and it is shooting my bow and doing my heal at the same time. I think its pretty op.

Tried macros myself, as others have stated, it is more of a hassle than it does good. And the thing you're doing can be done by anyone. I weave in light attacks in between all my skills when needed, even when buffing myself, you don't need a macro for that.
Took me 15 minutes to set one up, used it for less than a minute before deleting the profile, never used it again, don't think I ever will.

Idinuse · December 2015

It's by far overdue to let the big ban hammer purge this game of cheaters. If just one Zos rep would spend one evening in each faction per campaign, they wouldn't believe the level of macro and script usage. How can anyone even for a second feel skilled while being a cheater, I'll never understand. And spare yourself, and me, the animation cancelling mantra. It's animation canceling for sure, fine tuned down to a fraction of a second within the macro. We're talking 5-6 attacks, LA, HA and skills mixed within a 2 second time span. One sound, barely any visuals - 5-6 attacks.

Enough already.

Edit* Touch up.

Idinuse · December 2015

Gothlander wrote: »

What about a macro that does a light attack and an ability at the same time? Is that ok?

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"You agree not to use any hardware or software or any other method of support that is not authorized by ZeniMax or that may in any way influence or advantage Your playing abilities, or influence or advantage Your use of the Services. Third party tools, the use of ‘bots’, “speed hacks”, “deep-link”, “page-scrape”, “robot”, “spider”, algorithm or other programs that copy or monitor any part of the Services (including, but not limited to, the Game(s) and/or forums)."
ToS from Eso

SmalltalkJava · December 2015

I would have to say no. if you keep it simple like 2 skill rotations and such. ZOS has to keep in mind people who have disabilities. And macro's are one of the major factors that enable play for many people.

Idinuse · December 2015

SmalltalkJava wrote: »

I would have to say no. if you keep it simple like 2 skill rotations and such. ZOS has to keep in mind people who have disabilities. And macro's are one of the major factors that enable play for many people.

They don't have to keep anything like that in mind whatsoever. There is currently no exclusion for disabilities in the ToS. If disability is to be called for, I'd think one could be prepared to back that up. So people would now not only hide behind the animation cancelling mantra, they'd use disabilities just to be able to cheat in a game?

Gothlander · December 2015

ToS doesn't say anything about macros.

Forestd16b14_ESO · December 2015

You should but clearly they don't.

ThePonzzz · December 2015

The ToS is nothing to do with macros. Using a macro key on a mechanical keyboard really doesn't put you at an advantage. In fact, cookie cutter play style is going to get your rekt.

aLi3nZ · December 2015

There is an advanced macro to weave light attacks in between ability uses. I think using that isn't really right. However other macros as said its not really anything you can't do Normally and you can sometimes be worse off using them.

Makkir · December 2015

Some macros could actually be useful but not harmful to other players.
I am talking about, say Mounting and immediately followed by Rapid Maneuvers

Tomato · December 2015

No

MrDerrikk · December 2015

Play it safe and don't use them; you feel much, much better if you get skilled at doing everything manually anyway, as it's a real achievement of skill.

timidobserver · December 2015

On one hand, it is against the rules, but on the other I doubt that anyone has ever gotten banned for it.

Forestd16b14_ESO · December 2015

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Play it safe and don't use them; you feel much, much better if you get skilled at doing everything manually anyway, as it's a real achievement of skill.

That maybe true but some players don't care they want there kills easy cause there lazy.

Waffennacht · December 2015

Some players have been in trouble for such things. How they got em, I assume either by saying it a loud in game, or by using something obviously not allowed.

As for the personal part, I would say you shouldn't use them from a moral perspective. Just my 2 cents, nothing important

Merry · December 2015

Why are people so venomous about macros? I dont use them but a lot of the games I play allow them and I dont see an issue with it.../shrug....M

MrDerrikk · December 2015

Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Play it safe and don't use them; you feel much, much better if you get skilled at doing everything manually anyway, as it's a real achievement of skill.

That maybe true but some players don't care they want there kills easy cause there lazy.

From experience it takes less time to learn how to AC manually than to set up a macro to work properly (this was before I knew they were against TOS)