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Kagrenacs for Heavy Armor Magicka Dk?
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Im currently running a light armor dk but due to the outrageous amounts of stam build i was thinking about switch to heavy armor and running 4 magnus with 5 kagrenacs all divines. Would this be a good option or should i go with seducer
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PhatGrimReaper✭✭✭✭✭IMO you should stick with 5l 2h/5l 1h 1m. Use s&b with reinforced shield and 75 points into the Steed for the shield expert perk. With gold v16 gear + Volatile Armor + Blessing of Restoration you come pretty close to 33k spell resistance and 30 phys resis.Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
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✭✭PhatGrimReaper wrote: »IMO you should stick with 5l 2h/5l 1h 1m. Use s&b with reinforced shield and 75 points into the Steed for the shield expert perk. With gold v16 gear + Volatile Armor + Blessing of Restoration you come pretty close to 33k spell resistance and 30 phys resis.
What are you talking about? You might break 20k (10k base, 5k volatile, 1k blessing, 3k shield.)
To the OP: kagrenac plus Magnus is solid for any magicka class. Magicka DK is hardmode right now so just be prepared.3 -
Peel_Ya_Cap_517✭✭✭✭AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »Elf bane was pretty much made for heavy armor magicka DKs.
Elf Bane is awesome but not so much for PvP because of the purging/self healing..
In my opinion, if you're going to go heavy armor with your DK, Julianos is a must to make up for the loss of critical chance.N64 NA EP1 -
Poxheart✭✭✭✭✭Peel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »AverageJo3Gam3r wrote: »Elf bane was pretty much made for heavy armor magicka DKs.
Elf Bane is awesome but not so much for PvP because of the purging/self healing..
In my opinion, if you're going to go heavy armor with your DK, Julianos is a must to make up for the loss of critical chance.
Elf Bane is the heavy armor version of Martial Knowledge; you only use the 4 piece paired with 5 piece Kagrenac's.Unsubbed and no longer playing, but still checking the Alliance War forum for the lulz.
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✭✭✭✭Don't bother with heavy armor.
Honestly doesn't offer that much in pvp anymore
Regen and Dps loss is not worth the tiny gain you get2 -
Vanzen✭✭✭✭✭Running 5H Kagrénac /4 Magnus. 2 Infused /5 Divines / Shields reinforced on my mag DK. I think its a good compromise. I sometimes run the same set up with 5l, but its too squishy while mass pvping. I use it mainly for pve or duels.
Once you get enough cp 400+ you can get decent mag regen (1750) and cost reduction 12% and the spell damage is quite decent.
True you can get the same mitigation with 5l And volatile armor; but I always find volatile a waste of a slot compared to so many things more usefull.Edited by Vanzen on December 9, 2015 9:00AM1 -
5 light is too squishy and with Julianos you lose too much magicka sustain to make it viable for a 5H1L1M build. Kagrenac and Magnus combination is the way to go. Elf Bane is trash for PVP, I ran it, you don't have enough mana sustain with it and the 5 piece bonus is obsolete.
My 5H1L1M build is posted at the link, of my Magicka DK, with screen shots. You will survive much longer on the battlefield in PVP, and have enough magicka to sustain in the fight. Longer on the battle field = more kills and more support for your team.
Having said that, I am running a stam DK now and it's so much easier than Magicka DK. Magicka DK is hard mode, but that makes it so much more satisfying to perform well with. I feel cheap getting kills with the Stam DK because it's so easy. I ran 5 light for many months on my Magicka DK and it's just too squishy in PVP. and stay away from dragon blood and run a resto staff for your heals (blessing of restoration or healing ward or both).
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BuggeX✭✭✭✭✭
✭For PVP, better use Seducer with S/B Torucs if you want to use heavy, DK lack DMG and Heal, you will Need an enorm amount of Res to win fights.Don't bother with heavy armor.
Honestly doesn't offer that much in pvp anymore
Regen and Dps loss is not worth the tiny gain you get
it does mutch for dk, reduce blockcost, increas you heal recive, increas you health.
to make gdb just Abit usefull
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✭Why not 5 Seducer, 3 Willpower, 4/3 Torug's Pact?
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jpalm1995✭✭✭I like Kags cause of the combonation between health, regen, and damage. All three are things that Mag DKs need.I always say that I hate this game, yet for some reason i'm still here.0
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PhatGrimReaper✭✭✭✭✭PhatGrimReaper wrote: »IMO you should stick with 5l 2h/5l 1h 1m. Use s&b with reinforced shield and 75 points into the Steed for the shield expert perk. With gold v16 gear + Volatile Armor + Blessing of Restoration you come pretty close to 33k spell resistance and 30 phys resis.
What are you talking about? You might break 20k (10k base, 5k volatile, 1k blessing, 3k shield.)
To the OP: kagrenac plus Magnus is solid for any magicka class. Magicka DK is hardmode right now so just be prepared.
Lol, no.... this is the setup I use and these are the numbers I get.Fat Grim Reaper - (m)Dragon Knight AR28
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Stalwart385✭✭✭✭Heavy armor is bad in pvp. You might manage as a stam DK, but as a magicka DK its bad. You loose too much dps and sustain to be viable.
The idea is that heavy lengthens fights, but having a disadvantage in sustain is counter productive. With the 1/2 damage patch your not going to burst anyone either.
You can kill newbs in a 5xSeducer, 3xWillpower, 2xTorug, 2xKena setup, but any competent player is going to have a large advantage.
Heavy was good when there were softcaps. Without them heavy just can't keep up with the healing and shields out there on pure damage builds.Edited by Stalwart385 on December 29, 2015 9:28PM0 -
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✭✭PhatGrimReaper wrote: »PhatGrimReaper wrote: »IMO you should stick with 5l 2h/5l 1h 1m. Use s&b with reinforced shield and 75 points into the Steed for the shield expert perk. With gold v16 gear + Volatile Armor + Blessing of Restoration you come pretty close to 33k spell resistance and 30 phys resis.
What are you talking about? You might break 20k (10k base, 5k volatile, 1k blessing, 3k shield.)
To the OP: kagrenac plus Magnus is solid for any magicka class. Magicka DK is hardmode right now so just be prepared.
Lol, no.... this is the setup I use and these are the numbers I get.
I don't believe that youre at 30k phys resistance in 5L. Ill believe the spell resist number. Gonna need a SS to prove it.1 -
Guys, GUYS, GUUUUUUYS!
Let's not forget about the only real flaw of Elf Bane.
This set looks hideous as ***.
Argonians... step up your style game. seriously.Edited by MADshadowmans_Ghost on December 30, 2015 3:49AMMADshadowman - the one and only2
