why is it zos wont fix pvp

Nutshotz · December 2015

2 screen shots of just logging in and not doing nothing but going to get a new Mundas stone. I'm feeling the lag from BRK, and I'm at FARE. not only is this pathetic but wow zos wow

idc if my forum account gets banned as ive stated before. I'm clearly stating a point that garbage needs to get addressed instead of blaming it on a class that its there (crits) that are causing the lag. ROFLMFAO. tried to get near BRK and crashed 5 times and finally said screw this, out of frustration. tho whats the point of lagging the server hint hint......

I'm out. way to frustrated to even want to type this discussion

Wollust · December 2015

It's simple: They don't know how to fix it. Instead they give us the regular "we're working on it" or "this is our number 1 priority", while making the lag with every single update worse. They simply can't fix it.

hammayolettuce · December 2015

Step one: restart your salt connection.

Step two: restart your router.

Step three: git gud and praise the true lord .. Soon TM.

found1779 · December 2015

This is there way of showing the pvp community they don't care i don't blame them who pvps anyway pve is were it's at all pvp is about is people ganking 100 vs 1 lol or people spamming the same move over and over to heal there self until someone gets tired and gives up pvp needs to be taken out of eso all together i've tryed it for the last to weeks and i'm already tired of it

kevlarto_ESO · December 2015

Just a little info, I am not saying it is bad or good, but the last ESO live had Brian Wheeler, he explained a little more in depth on how the server works in cyrodiil, might be a good watch for some that think they are doing nothing or don't care, getting a few facts can't hurt.

I pvp everyday on lagzura, and no one would love to see the lag fixed more than me, but having worked as an Enterprise Administrator and many years in the computer industry, sometimes things are not as easy to fix as we wish they were, I have no idea how much time ZOS spends on this issue, I do believe it is high on the list and through trial and error they will eventually make it better, but I know it can not come soon enough.

zyk · December 2015

I think the short answer is poor project management. IMO, ZOS tried to do too much. The game was late, pushed out the door before it was ready, and they seem to have been playing catch up since.

The loading screen issue is very damning. From at least the start of IC PTS, there were widespread complaints about long load times and crashing while loading. Yet, ZOS did not implement debug code to detect and fix some of the causes until after 2.2 launched; months after IC. That suggests a lot of dysfunction in the development process. So too do all the recurring bugs--issues that are fixed for a while and then reemerge.

This happens at a gameplay level too. Look at the plan to fix forward camps. What ZOS has proposed isn't revolutionary. It's obviously something that could have been implemented last year. Why has it taken so long to develop such a half-assed solution? Look at siege -- constantly in a cycle of being effective and ineffective. There should be a document that clearly defines what the relative effectiveness of siege should be. If that were true and it was adhered to, siege imbalances would never make it off PTS.

ZOS obviously has an incredible number of extraordinary talented employees. I blame the managers and execs, not the coders, engineers and artists. IMO, the execs are completely out of touch.

TheValkyn · December 2015

Too busy giving away a million dollars.

Nutshotz · December 2015

So why don't we as the player community do a stat breakdown on a spreadsheet and show the exactly what is happening or maybe just maybe wheeler should get his a$$ into azura pvp and realize that everything isn't ok, or do they think that we are pulling sht out of our a$$ about how bad the game is getting each update?

JamilaRaj · December 2015

The problem is that some stubborn players still did not quit PvP and effectively proved performance in Cyrodiil, or rather utter lack of it, does not matter. The best example are Sypher's podcasts, where he and the other guys talk for hours about The Lag, how is it #1 issue, then switch youtube off, lag into the game and keep playing regardless.

SoulScream · December 2015

The last of these players left like it this way it is why they still play.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · December 2015

@PeaNutShotz Azura is my home campaign...we're well aware of the issues in there. Also Haderus on Xbox and Azura on PS4. We know.

_Chaos · December 2015

AKA

Please put a sock in it, other departments are working on it even though it's critical to the game-play in Cyrodiil.
I'd like a cross functional team solely dedicated to fixing the latency issues, but our budgets were cut so that we could offer $1,000,000 USD just for logging in.

Lettigall · December 2015

I suspect manhunt will begin on those servers

Darlgon · December 2015

PC-NA?

Dang.. means I probably die to him.

Ezareth · December 2015

There is a player called BrianWheeler running around on Azura's Star.

I wonder....what better name to hide behind than your own!

ZOS_BrianWheeler · December 2015

That's not me

Turtl3Lov3 · December 2015

Someone from ZOS PVPs?

LOVE THE TURTLE

Turtl3Lov3 · December 2015

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CN_Daniel · December 2015

If you play on Azura and you're not blue, I have killed you. TAKE THAT FOR THE LAG HA!

Grampa_Smurf · December 2015

He may be blue he may not but I know he is a Smurf at heart

CN_Daniel · December 2015

LET YOUR TOON NAME BE KNOWN SO THAT FROTO T BAGGINS MAY VISIT YOU!

Manoekin · December 2015

Mmmmmmmhmm. I believe you.

WebBull · December 2015

Agree 100%. Not only do they not know how to fix it but it continues to get worse and worse. Even TF is starting to lag away from battles.

Jhunn · December 2015

Best post

WebBull · December 2015

hmmm, whose voice in TS sounds likes Brian's in ESO live.

Curragraigue · December 2015

I played with a guy that took the Brian Wheeler name on PC months ago. It wasn't Brian (was in team speak with him) I haven't played with him for awhile since console conversion so not sure if it is the same guy. I thought he just took it to see how long before ZOS told him to change it I didn't think he planned on keeping it.

If it is the same guy some of the DC/EP regulars should know who the guy with the Brian Wheeler character name is.

gibous · December 2015

Hahahaha you can seen spit on the screen in the OP screenshots... So much anger, then Wheeler's like, "yo dude, chill."

cote-bmsb16_ESO · December 2015

they should've spent that million dollars on a new fxckin server

Preyfar · December 2015

This is should be the standard ZOS acknowledgement for a problem, along with the handprint. "We know".

ZOS is the Dark Brotherhood.

Tyrion87 · December 2015

I'm currently TRYING to play in Azura's (PC/EU) but it's completely unplayable!!! After few minutes of playing everybody around me freeze and immediately after that I get kicked out of the game to the logging screen and when trying to get back... I'm out of Cyrodiil and need to wait in a queue! Travelling between keeps takes min. 3-4 minutes and during this time my group is two keeps away from me or the given keep is already captured/defended, i.e. the battle is over for me... Another problem is I cannot get out of the keep: when I'm pressing "E" near the keep door, nothing happens... not to mention the 999 ping... Cyrodiil is not fun anymore. In any aspect.
ESO became only a PvE game.

Autolycus · December 2015

I have my own theories about why the lag is so bad. Before I go into them, I'd like to point out the fact that the lag in Cyrodiil doesn't just impact Cyrodiil. I've been in full raid groups doing trials or something and had the Cyrodiil lag force us out of content. This one was awhile back, but there was even a time where my group had a record-breaking time in vDSA (when it was relevant) and the server lagged out my entire party, resetting the instance as if we'd never been there. Anyway, back to the matter at hand:

1. Zenimax, your servers suck. Quit being cheap and buy more capacity.
2. Quit firing the employees who are capable of fixing the problems with this game. Even the interns you lay off are capable of accomplishing what you clearly are not.
3. Add new content for PvE players. This one isn't as subjective as it may seem. There is a large quantity of players that normally would spend most of their time outside of Cyrodiil, but a lack of content is sending them to Cyrodiil for something to do, which is just making it worse. Argue vIP and vWGT as much as you want. I'm far from being the only person who has run this 200 times too many. Even those of us (myself included) who are willing to run HRC, SO, and AA a million more times until there's something better to do, aren't even getting our weekly rewards. How long do you expect us to stay interested in this? It's way too easy, and we get absolutely nothing for doing it.
4. Try expanding your PvP zones. Why is it that Cyrodiil is the only contested area? What about 2v2, 3v3, and 4v4 arenas? What about dueling? Any number of things could ease up the Cyrodiil strain.

I have more reasons, but I'll leave this for now. Cheers!