How long is it going to be before they fix Shield Breaker already?

JaJaLuka · December 2015

Not only this but there is a bug circulating from one of the item changer addons that allows you to change gear mid fight if you're able to stealth, but shield breaker is still bugged. Fought a NB who came back at me about 3 seconds after he stealthed in completely different gear, turned out he swapped to shield breaker which didn't just destroy my shield, it ignored it entirely (hardened ward). This has got to end. So the issue is basically in the heading, how long does it take to fix or temporarily remove (until it's fixed) ONE set? Seriously ZoS, hurry the *** up.

Edit: On a side note, anyone know if the phoenix set is bugged still? Just a comparison I guess to see if the ZoS employees are still alive...

Tower_Of_Shame · December 2015

Seems like OP had his first experience with shield breaker xD

JaJaLuka · December 2015

Nope not the first, I'm just tired of exploitative *** in this game

lostavalon · December 2015

Shieldbreak has always ignored the shield from when it was released ingame,
Being able to switch gears up mid fight is abit *** tho

Angarato · December 2015

so how is it bugged? sorcerers being able to die is actually not a bug

Alucardo · December 2015

Angarato wrote: »

so how is it bugged? sorcerers being able to die is actually not a bug

To them, any weakness to having a shield up is considered a bug

Jura23 · December 2015

As a stamina Templar, I never had any problem with shieldbreaker.

JaJaLuka · December 2015

I don't mind dying and I hardly stack shields in PvP. I run 1 shield only and I die all the time without worrying about it. But the set is supposed to damage the shield, not go directly through it. The fact that the devs haven't even addressed it shows their incompetence.

Alucardo · December 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

I don't mind dying and I hardly stack shields in PvP. I run 1 shield only and I die all the time without worrying about it. But the set is supposed to damage the shield, not go directly through it. The fact that the devs haven't even addressed it shows their incompetence.

Where the hell does it state that? Have you even read the 5th piece? "Your light and heavy attacks deal X irresistible damage against enemies with a damage shield"

redspecter23 · December 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

I don't mind dying and I hardly stack shields in PvP. I run 1 shield only and I die all the time without worrying about it. But the set is supposed to damage the shield, not go directly through it. The fact that the devs haven't even addressed it shows their incompetence.

The set bonus isn't supposed to damage the shield. That's the point. It does extra damage that goes right through the shield. If the shield could absorb it, what would the point be?

Knootewoot · December 2015

They should buff shieldbreaker so it goes through flappy wings also

Alucardo · December 2015

Knootewoot wrote: »

They should buff shieldbreaker so it goes through flappy wings also

I will hurt you

JaJaLuka · December 2015

Biggest load of *** in this game imo, it doesn't specifically say it goes through shields either, against enemies doesn't specify through a shield and the point would be extra damage to break down the shield. If they want to balance shield stacking, they should make shields replace each other instead of stacking and negate remove all effects including active shields and buffs. That set (assuming it's working as intended) is just another example of how sloppy, lazy and unimaginative ZoS is.

GRxKnight · December 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

Biggest load of *** in this game imo, it doesn't specifically say it goes through shields either, against enemies doesn't specify through a shield and the point would be extra damage to break down the shield. If they want to balance shield stacking, they should make shields replace each other instead of stacking and negate remove all effects including active shields and buffs. That set (assuming it's working as intended) is just another example of how sloppy, lazy and unimaginative ZoS is.

You must be a console player cause shield breaker isn't even in the meta on PC...i laugh at all the NB's that try to pew pew me through my shield....

seriously though the set isn't used as much as people thought it would because there are simply just better sets out there for damage

NovaShadow · December 2015

I died to it today. In lag. I'm a nb who doesn't use shields. Saw no shields (ward or ing shield) on me. Prob a visual bug from the lag, but it is broken.

Laggus · December 2015

Irresistible damage means exactly that. It does exactly that to any class with a shield up. Have to wear the 5 pieces of it which is in itself the price to pay. Make shields prone to crit damage and then maybe change this set.

Wollust · December 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

Biggest load of *** in this game imo, it doesn't specifically say it goes through shields either, against enemies doesn't specify through a shield and the point would be extra damage to break down the shield. If they want to balance shield stacking, they should make shields replace each other instead of stacking and negate remove all effects including active shields and buffs. That set (assuming it's working as intended) is just another example of how sloppy, lazy and unimaginative ZoS is.

They said it's intended to be damage that goes directly to your health. So no need to ban the set, as it is working as intended. Even if it's a cheesy solution

Bashev · December 2015

Knootewoot wrote: »

They should buff shieldbreaker so it goes through flappy wings also

BTW what does not go through flappy wings nowadays?

Psilent · December 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

Not only this but there is a bug circulating from one of the item changer addons that allows you to change gear mid fight if you're able to stealth, but shield breaker is still bugged. Fought a NB who came back at me about 3 seconds after he stealthed in completely different gear, turned out he swapped to shield breaker which didn't just destroy my shield, it ignored it entirely (hardened ward). This has got to end. So the issue is basically in the heading, how long does it take to fix or temporarily remove (until it's fixed) ONE set? Seriously ZoS, hurry the *** up.

Edit: On a side note, anyone know if the phoenix set is bugged still? Just a comparison I guess to see if the ZoS employees are still alive...

It's very easy to counter; I run into shield breaker quite often in IC. I just run Blessing of Restoration instead of Healing Ward.

Septimus_Magna · December 2015

This set would be perfectly fine if sorcs had other options than shields to survive. Its punishing sorcs to use their class' defense while they have no other choice.

10% Irresistable health dmg for light attacks is just insane on top of the high burst that most stam builds already have.

You can compare this to detect pots vs NBs but with 100% up time or a constant major healing debuff vs Templars, there's just nothing you can do about it because the classes is designed to use a specific defense mechanism.

eliisra · December 2015

Funniest thing with Shield Breaker...only exists for the class/builds that kills sorcs already.

Stamina DK's and stamblades have a realistic chance of out-bursting sorc shield with normal gear. They dont need Shield Breaker to do it.

But go try killing a sorc as magicka DK or templar. It's just not possible at all, if the sorc knows how to play. Magicka builds cant really kill each other either, or it takes 10 minutes, due to Harness Magicka and CP reductions.

Shield Breaker light armor, go go.

GRxKnight · December 2015

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

This set would be perfectly fine if sorcs had other options than shields to survive. Its punishing sorcs to use their class' defense while they have no other choice.

10% Irresistable health dmg for light attacks is just insane on top of the high burst that most stam builds already have.

You can compare this to detect pots vs NBs but with 100% up time or a constant major healing debuff vs Templars, there's just nothing you can do about it because the classes is designed to use a specific defense mechanism.

Streak away, heal up, frag curse burst them to death if they want to just light attack pew pew...majority of people who use shield breaker are the type that need it to beat sorcs and as such don't know how to maximize dps with it...it's an irrelevant set now that ic is dead

Soulac · December 2015

It's the only counter against shields and it doesn't even negate them completely.
In addition to that it's only useful as Stamina Build and even in that case not every runs it.

As long as I get marked and spammed by undodgeable skills in every single encounter I can't feel sorry for you.
It's fine having attacks ignoring limited defense like dodge, but not if some damage ignores shields?
Yes, I understand that bowtards got an huge advantage and I also think that shieldbreaker shouldn't proc on shields like Harness Magicka in case the light attacks are going through it.

Shield breaker may not be the best counter, but it's the only one and it's needed.
It's ridiculous enough that stacking one ressource improves damage and defense at the same time.
I wish my dodge would get better based on the amount of stamina I got.

Tower_Of_Shame · December 2015

Knootewoot wrote: »

They should buff shieldbreaker so it goes through flappy wings also

Since the mods after 10 mins deleted my "But really and truly **** off. Now" gif, I would reply with this:

Side note:
Dev team should take the mod team as an example HOW fast they can work...

Imagine with that speed all off the bug would have been gone already

Septimus_Magna · December 2015

GRxKnight wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

This set would be perfectly fine if sorcs had other options than shields to survive. Its punishing sorcs to use their class' defense while they have no other choice.

10% Irresistable health dmg for light attacks is just insane on top of the high burst that most stam builds already have.

You can compare this to detect pots vs NBs but with 100% up time or a constant major healing debuff vs Templars, there's just nothing you can do about it because the classes is designed to use a specific defense mechanism.

Streak away, heal up, frag curse burst them to death if they want to just light attack pew pew...majority of people who use shield breaker are the type that need it to beat sorcs and as such don't know how to maximize dps with it...it's an irrelevant set now that ic is dead

Cloak > Ambush > light attack > Fear > Wrecking Blow > light attack > Cloak and repeat

I usually just run away when Im alone, its no point in fighting if the enemy player has any skill.

Soulac · December 2015

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

This set would be perfectly fine if sorcs had other options than shields to survive. Its punishing sorcs to use their class' defense while they have no other choice.

10% Irresistable health dmg for light attacks is just insane on top of the high burst that most stam builds already have.

You can compare this to detect pots vs NBs but with 100% up time or a constant major healing debuff vs Templars, there's just nothing you can do about it because the classes is designed to use a specific defense mechanism.

Streak away, heal up, frag curse burst them to death if they want to just light attack pew pew...majority of people who use shield breaker are the type that need it to beat sorcs and as such don't know how to maximize dps with it...it's an irrelevant set now that ic is dead

Cloak > Ambush > light attack > Fear > Wrecking Blow > light attack > Cloak and repeat

I usually just run away when Im alone, its no point in fighting if the enemy player has any skill.

Turtl3Lov3 · December 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

I don't mind dying and I hardly stack shields in PvP. I run 1 shield only and I die all the time without worrying about it. But the set is supposed to damage the shield, not go directly through it. The fact that the devs haven't even addressed it shows their incompetence.

If that were true, the set would be sorta dumb for those stamina builds that run shield breaker, since most if not all light attacks do more than 2150 damage on a non crit already, correct me if I'm wrong.

LOVE THE TURTLE

Master_Kas · December 2015

JaJaLuka wrote: »

Not only this but there is a bug circulating from one of the item changer addons that allows you to change gear mid fight if you're able to stealth, but shield breaker is still bugged. Fought a NB who came back at me about 3 seconds after he stealthed in completely different gear, turned out he swapped to shield breaker which didn't just destroy my shield, it ignored it entirely (hardened ward). This has got to end. So the issue is basically in the heading, how long does it take to fix or temporarily remove (until it's fixed) ONE set? Seriously ZoS, hurry the *** up.

Edit: On a side note, anyone know if the phoenix set is bugged still? Just a comparison I guess to see if the ZoS employees are still alive...

It's not bugged or needs a fix, it's working as intended so get used to it.
What would be the point if it only did damage to your damageshield? You might as well use other attacks then that would do more damage than 2.1k.

Slot some heals besides healingward instead.

Ezareth · December 2015

I fought and killed a good stamina DK running the set over the weekend.

Degeneration + Crit surge countered the damage he did to me through my shield and his wings increased the damage my overload did to his face ( =

Point is, just find a counter for the situation or play LoS around a tree and make him eat mines.

GRxKnight · December 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

I fought and killed a good stamina DK running the set over the weekend.

Degeneration + Crit surge countered the damage he did to me through my shield and his wings increased the damage my overload did to his face ( =

Point is, just find a counter for the situation or play LoS around a tree and make him eat mines.

Sword and board reflect?

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

This set would be perfectly fine if sorcs had other options than shields to survive. Its punishing sorcs to use their class' defense while they have no other choice.

10% Irresistable health dmg for light attacks is just insane on top of the high burst that most stam builds already have.

You can compare this to detect pots vs NBs but with 100% up time or a constant major healing debuff vs Templars, there's just nothing you can do about it because the classes is designed to use a specific defense mechanism.

Streak away, heal up, frag curse burst them to death if they want to just light attack pew pew...majority of people who use shield breaker are the type that need it to beat sorcs and as such don't know how to maximize dps with it...it's an irrelevant set now that ic is dead

Cloak > Ambush > light attack > Fear > Wrecking Blow > light attack > Cloak and repeat

I usually just run away when Im alone, its no point in fighting if the enemy player has any skill.

Detect pot > curse > entropy > frag > fury...

Theory eso is fun...your turn

Ezareth · December 2015

GRxKnight wrote: »

Ezareth wrote: »

I fought and killed a good stamina DK running the set over the weekend.

Degeneration + Crit surge countered the damage he did to me through my shield and his wings increased the damage my overload did to his face ( =

Point is, just find a counter for the situation or play LoS around a tree and make him eat mines.

Sword and board reflect?

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Septimus_Magna wrote: »

This set would be perfectly fine if sorcs had other options than shields to survive. Its punishing sorcs to use their class' defense while they have no other choice.

10% Irresistable health dmg for light attacks is just insane on top of the high burst that most stam builds already have.

You can compare this to detect pots vs NBs but with 100% up time or a constant major healing debuff vs Templars, there's just nothing you can do about it because the classes is designed to use a specific defense mechanism.

Streak away, heal up, frag curse burst them to death if they want to just light attack pew pew...majority of people who use shield breaker are the type that need it to beat sorcs and as such don't know how to maximize dps with it...it's an irrelevant set now that ic is dead

Cloak > Ambush > light attack > Fear > Wrecking Blow > light attack > Cloak and repeat

I usually just run away when Im alone, its no point in fighting if the enemy player has any skill.

Detect pot > curse > entropy > frag > fury...

Theory eso is fun...your turn

It's the only way to run if you want to actually kill good players as a sorc. My days of trying to mages wrath spam DKs to death are far behind me.