No Champion Points PVP Campaign coming to ESO!

Troneon · December 2015

No Champion Points PVP Campaign coming to ESO! Livestream confirmed...

DISCUSS...

I personally think this is awesome.

Zorrashi · December 2015

If true, then I say its a good thing. A bit of choice for those who want to PvP without CPs affecting gameplay.

MissBizz · December 2015

Zorrashi wrote: »

If true, then I say its a good thing. A bit of choice for those who want to PvP without CPs affecting gameplay.

@Zorrashi It is true. Was announced this afternoon on ESO Live by Brian Wheeler.

RAGUNAnoOne · December 2015

Yes!!! please tell me that there is both a veteran and a non veteran version.

Paulington · December 2015

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Yes please tell me that there is both a veteran and a non veteran version.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler said it would be automatic for all non-Vet campaigns like Blackwater Blade to be non-CP and that they would make another (normal) campaign non-CP too.

UltimaJoe777 · December 2015

All non-Vet Campaigns will automatically be non-CP and some Vet Campaigns will be non-CP.

Thing is at least on PS4 NA there is only one non-Vet Campaign (BWB) lol

nimander99 · December 2015

This was confirmed by @ZOS_RichLambert months ago in an ESO live... then discussed ad nauseum in forums from September through October, especially prior to the CP Cap with Orsinium... do a "No CP Campaign" search in forums.

ItsRejectz · December 2015

Going against the grain here but I'm going to say this can only be a bad thing, if things stay the way they are now. I'm all for a non vet campaign but it's only going to segregate the player base even more and there can already be times when campaigns feel empty.

IMO there should be 3 PvP servers:
Non VR
VR
No CP VR

Obviously performance would need to be improved, but thinning the PvP player base by adding even more servers is definitely going to hurt PvP

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO · December 2015

Segregate? I don't even PvP because of champion points. A non champion point campaign gives me a reason to play PvP again.

RAGUNAnoOne · December 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Going against the grain here but I'm going to say this can only be a bad thing, if things stay the way they are now. I'm all for a non vet campaign but it's only going to segregate the player base even more and there can already be times when campaigns feel empty.

IMO there should be 3 PvP servers:
Non VR
VR
No CP VR

Obviously performance would need to be improved, but thinning the PvP player base by adding even more servers is definitely going to hurt PvP

as if they aren't thin enough on PS4 it is everyone on azuras the rest are buff servers and ADs the only one to more that 1 bar in BwB I say it can't get any thinner.

UltimaJoe777 · December 2015

ItsRejectz wrote: »

Going against the grain here but I'm going to say this can only be a bad thing, if things stay the way they are now. I'm all for a non vet campaign but it's only going to segregate the player base even more and there can already be times when campaigns feel empty.

IMO there should be 3 PvP servers:
Non VR
VR
No CP VR

Obviously performance would need to be improved, but thinning the PvP player base by adding even more servers is definitely going to hurt PvP

Your list is basically how it will be, except replace Non VR with No CP Non VR

ItsRejectz · December 2015

iamnotweakrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Segregate? I don't even PvP because of champion points. A non champion point campaign gives me a reason to play PvP again.

Was meant to be seperate, must of spelt it wrong and my phone came up with that lol

TheBull · December 2015

If you are getting wrecked now. You will still be getting wrecked. Hey though on a positive note, there will be nothing to blame it on. You'll have to get better.

RAGUNAnoOne · December 2015

TheBull wrote: »

If you are getting wrecked now. You will still be getting wrecked. Hey though on a positive note, there will be nothing to blame it on. You'll have to get better.

exactly why this is a good thing though the negative is that it will make "git gud" a valid response to PvP tirades.

Troneon · December 2015

TheBull wrote: »

If you are getting wrecked now. You will still be getting wrecked. Hey though on a positive note, there will be nothing to blame it on. You'll have to get better.

@TheBull
And that's the whole point...

EVEN playing field now.....not getting advantage from CP...it works both ways...

You are not pro anymore unless you play and win on non CP server now :P

Waffennacht · December 2015

Troneon wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

If you are getting wrecked now. You will still be getting wrecked. Hey though on a positive note, there will be nothing to blame it on. You'll have to get better.

@TheBull
And that's the whole point...

EVEN playing field now.....not getting advantage from CP...it works both ways...

Your not pro unless you play and win on non CP server now :P

Or your not pro cuz ur on non CP... Cuz then like you spent what a week for your build?

TequilaFire · December 2015

Next up PvP server with no weapons! lol
Oh well glad you guys get a chance to see how it was in the old days without CP.
Wait people still cried when they got rekd!

nine9six · December 2015

Sweet!

I'll get wrecked regardless, lol, but awesome for those that have been requesting this. Skill can shine through.

J2JMC · December 2015

What's the point of this if they are removing vet ranks?

Alucardo · December 2015

lol non-vet gonna be a ghost town once the vets cry because they lost their CPs

RAGUNAnoOne · December 2015

Alucardo wrote: »

lol non-vet gonna be a ghost town once the vets cry because they lost their CPs

yay, skyshards for my alts (who thought it was a good idea to put them there though?)

Master_Kas · December 2015

Everyone forgot that we lost alot of power/stats from 1.5 to 1.6 ?

A 0 CP campaign will be so bad statwise, 100-200 would've been better imo ;p

Zorrashi · December 2015

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

lol non-vet gonna be a ghost town once the vets cry because they lost their CPs

yay, skyshards for my alts (who thought it was a good idea to put them there though?)

The same people who thought that Cyrodil would make for a good PvP AND PvE area. It's why there are quests and characterized NPCs in the towns that are situated in Cyrodil.

JamilaRaj · December 2015

Personally I do not care. It is the same thing over and over. Brian announces something semi-sensible, but by the time it goes live (if ever), they will have created five other equally crippling issues.

UltimaJoe777 · December 2015

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

TheBull wrote: »

If you are getting wrecked now. You will still be getting wrecked. Hey though on a positive note, there will be nothing to blame it on. You'll have to get better.

exactly why this is a good thing though the negative is that it will make "git gud" a valid response to PvP tirades.

And it wasn't before?

J2JMC wrote: »

What's the point of this if they are removing vet ranks?

Once Vet Ranks go there will be only 2 kinds of Campaigns: CP and non-CP. This is a tideover until then lol one may even go so far as to call it a transitional phase.

Oliumzen · December 2015

Do away with battle leveling in Cyro then as well.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · December 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

All non-Vet Campaigns will automatically be non-CP and some Vet Campaigns will be non-CP.

Thing is at least on PS4 NA there is only one non-Vet Campaign (BWB) lol

Great news. I have been seeing more and more toons from CP grinders and blobspam groups go to blackwater. It will be awesome when they can no longer facetank new players and they actually have to compete with other players with high CP that actually like that trashy style of play.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · December 2015

Master_Kas wrote: »

Everyone forgot that we lost alot of power/stats from 1.5 to 1.6 ?

A 0 CP campaign will be so bad statwise, 100-200 would've been better imo ;p

And early 1.6 was amazing before people started attribute and regen stacking. What will really suck will be dodge roll and block. Those got nerfed because regen was so high due to the crapeon system.

1.6 made it cost a lot more to dodge roll and block if you weren't specced for it.

The following nerfs would be unnecessary in a no-CP campaign.

Stacking cost of dodge roll
No Regen while blocking
Stacking cost of streak
Nerf to damage and shields.

Would be nice if we could get a campaign without CP and without those nerfs as well.

Draxys · December 2015

Master_Kas wrote: »

Everyone forgot that we lost alot of power/stats from 1.5 to 1.6 ?

A 0 CP campaign will be so bad statwise, 100-200 would've been better imo ;p

This was my first thought. People are going to complain about not having good enough builds on that server because they can't supplement their weakness with cp lol

technohic · December 2015

I was more excited by this before the catchup mechanics and cap. Still Will be interesting as a different meta.

Waffennacht · December 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Master_Kas wrote: »

Everyone forgot that we lost alot of power/stats from 1.5 to 1.6 ?

A 0 CP campaign will be so bad statwise, 100-200 would've been better imo ;p

And early 1.6 was amazing before people started attribute and regen stacking. What will really suck will be dodge roll and block. Those got nerfed because regen was so high due to the crapeon system.

1.6 made it cost a lot more to dodge roll and block if you weren't specced for it.

The following nerfs would be unnecessary in a no-CP campaign.
Stacking cost of dodge roll

No Regen while blocking

Stacking cost of streak

Nerf to damage and shields.

Would be nice if we could get a campaign without CP and without those nerfs as well.

I wish i could agree more!

It makes a lot of sense with the vet rank removal.

I guess logically that would make... CPs more dedicated to PvE... but how would it effect pure PvP i wonder? You almost would have to have a dedicated PvP character to take advantage of the no CP campaign (cuz a build built around cp useage and PvE would not function well)

Im looking forward to the changes