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Racial Ultimas
Zeth163
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I have been thinking this over and was wondering what other people would think if they add ultimas to each race. i was thinking they could base it off skyrims racial abilities. wood elves command beasts for a short while argonians can regen. ect. what do u think.
Edited by Zeth163 on December 3, 2015 8:30PM Bring fourth the Four Horsemen and let the Apocalypse judge the wicked
Racial Ultimas 91 votes
Yes we should
57%
52 votes
No isnt worth it
42%
39 votes
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Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes we shouldNot sure about it being ultimates. Maybe they could just add some active abilities into racial tree. Maybe even add ability slot? I don't know.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU1 -
khele23eb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No isnt worth itOnly if races with crappy racial passives get OP ultimates.P2P offered you 'hell yeah!' moments. F2P offers you 'thank god its over' moments.5 -
LadyNalcarya✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No isnt worth itNo, balancing racial passives is already problematic. I dont want more balance issues.
The idea might seem fun, but imagine if your racial ulti is completely useless for your build and another race's ulti is "must have".
I think the game should promote more diversity in builds, not less. And I really dont like to see something like "Looking for a tank, imperial only pls" or "you cannot heal, you're not a breton".Dro-m'Athra Destroyer | Divayth Fyr's Coadjutor | Voice of Reason
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hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes we shouldOnly if Argonians get the ability to swim underwater.
Only pets can swim under water"I still do not understand why I followed the advice of Captain Rana to bring the villagers of Bleakrock into safety. We should have fought for our village and not have backed down, with our tail between our legs. Now my home village is in shambles, the houses burning, the invaders feasting.I swear every day to Shor that after Molag Bal has been defeated, I will hunt down the invaders and restore peace in Bleakrock and drink my mead with my friends at the market place".PC-EU0 -
Olen_Mikko✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes we shouldIt would make things little more versatile and more interesting.
Also, i'd like to see that each race and class would have for example 3 special skills, where they could choose one on start.
That would make it more versatile and unpredictable to counter, since there would be more depth in builds.
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- Cyrodiil-Refugee stamblade - Stamina Tank / PvE
Go dominion or go home
Nightblade-Hipster. I played Nightblade before it was cool - from 1.5 onwards.0 -
Sharmony✭✭✭No isnt worth itNew racial ultimate's or a new class entirely... I know what I would rather have worked on.@Wjleppard - EU - Sharmony YoutubeHolyfire - V16 Stamina Templar | Auriels Bow - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmony - V16 Magicka Templar | Flaming Rose - V16 Magicka Dragonknight | Rejuvenation - V16 Magicka Nightblade | Dora The (Explorer Title) - V16 Magicka Sorcerer | Critjiit - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Just Hold Block - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Stormburst - V16 Stamina Sorcerer | Ashenbourne - V16 Magicka Templar | Swims-At-Speed - V16 Magicka Templar | Sharmonknee - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmoney - V16 Magicka WardenGuild Affiliations: Hodor, Travelling Merchant, Aetherius Trade, Golden Goose.
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Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No isnt worth itAlthough I think it would be cool, it would only create less diversity than racial passives already do. Can you imagine what would happen if Imperials got an awesome tanking Ult or Bretons a strong healing Ult, or Altmer getting a high damage Ult. Lfm Breton Templar healer.Edited by Luigi_Vampa on December 3, 2015 11:06PMPC/EU DC2 -
Kyoma✭✭✭No isnt worth itWay too risky in terms of balance, I'd rather see weapon ulties as they are accessible to all classes & races.Will I be able to forget all the wounds that pierce my flesh?
You and your childish justice. I'll rip it to pieces.
Come on, it's showtime. A rain of blood like a volcano
And now I'll blow all of you and you and you...
All to tiny pieces. All to tiny pieces.3 -
Sharmony✭✭✭No isnt worth it
Actually, that wouldn't happen
all the water is walled underneath it or has a floor... I know this because... well, it's my job @Wjleppard - EU - Sharmony YoutubeHolyfire - V16 Stamina Templar | Auriels Bow - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmony - V16 Magicka Templar | Flaming Rose - V16 Magicka Dragonknight | Rejuvenation - V16 Magicka Nightblade | Dora The (Explorer Title) - V16 Magicka Sorcerer | Critjiit - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Just Hold Block - V16 Stamina Dragonknight | Stormburst - V16 Stamina Sorcerer | Ashenbourne - V16 Magicka Templar | Swims-At-Speed - V16 Magicka Templar | Sharmonknee - V16 Stamina Nightblade | Sharmoney - V16 Magicka WardenGuild Affiliations: Hodor, Travelling Merchant, Aetherius Trade, Golden Goose.
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GreenSoup2HoT✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No isnt worth itno. the meta would just shift to the race withthe better ultsPS4 NA DC0 -
lolo_01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No isnt worth itIt will be nearly impossible to make balanced ultimates for any class + race combination. And I'd like to see some existing ultimates reworked before adding new ones.0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes we shouldTES had it i don't see why ESO can't. for example DK had ancestrial guardian0 -
Fat_Cat45✭✭✭✭✭No isnt worth itRacial ultimates existed very early in the game, but got removed. I would assume they got removed for proper reason, but it's still possible they can come back with proper balance and utility1
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Aquanova✭✭✭✭✭No isnt worth itI'm tired of crap being tied to a race. Especially when we can't change it.NA/PC0 -
Peel_Ya_Cap_517✭✭✭✭No isnt worth itNeat idea.. But I think people would just choose whichever race had the "best" ultimate..N64 NA EP0 -
Recremen✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yes we shouldI'm always up for more fun abilities to use (though this would be the most highly-gated set of abilities, given that there are 10 unique races).
Nord: some kind of wind/frost thing, it's everywhere in their lore but they totally dropped the ball in Skyrim by barely addressing it. Big AoE knockback/ perpetual pushback and slow thing, maybe?
Argonian: Maybe some kind of regen thing, only legitimately useful instead of objectively bad.
Dunmer: Summon Ancestral Ghost. Think about it.
Orsimer: Rage or something, IDK. I think they had something like that in a couple of games. Big weapon/spell power buff. Knockdown with heavy attacks that goes through block. Something neat.
Redguard: Weapon attack speed = YES. A thousand cuts/arrows/however staves do.
Breton: They always had that one damage shield, right? Give them a damage shield.
Altmer: Something boring. Just kidding, maybe something like an AoE resource restore. They always had magicka to spare in other games, seems giving their allies a sudden glut of resources would be right up their alley.
Bosmer: Summon beast of some nature. They had that Command Beast power back in Morrowind, would be interesting to see an ultimate along those lines. Like a stampede of boar or some such.
Imperial: Command creature. Makes something fight its friends. Might need way more tweaking than it's worth, though, since it would need unique but powerful effects in a huge variety of PvE and PvP environments.
Khajiit: Eye of Fear, maybe, like in a lot of the other games? Or some kind of Twin Moon's Dance mystic martial arts nonsense would be cool, too.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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RAGUNAnoOne✭✭✭✭✭
✭khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »Only if races with crappy racial passives get OP ultimates.
I can see Argonians being gods now...just as it should be
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Deandril✭✭✭Peel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »Neat idea.. But I think people would just choose whichever race had the "best" ultimate..
They should have racial ultimates and make them all underewhelming except for the argonian's. Then one would have to take crappy passives to take advantage.1 -
Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No isnt worth itPeel_Ya_Cap_517 wrote: »Neat idea.. But I think people would just choose whichever race had the "best" ultimate..
They should have racial ultimates and make them all underewhelming except for the argonian's. Then one would have to take crappy passives to take advantage.
Call of the Hist:
For 10 seconds weapon and spell power is doubled. 50% damage mitigation. Immunity to CC. All resources regen 100% faster. Cost 50 ultimate.
Let this be in game for one month so Argonians can punish all those who have ever slighted them.
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Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes we should
cause the racial balance is so good atm?
P.s. ZoS choose to follow the TES line so i see no reason to not implement it.0 -
Luigi_Vampa✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No isnt worth it
cause the racial balance is so good atm?
P.s. ZoS choose to follow the TES line so i see no reason to not implement it.
So your suggestion is to make racial imbalance even worse? They need to balance the passives, but the passives are not nearly as big of a deal as imbalanced racial ultimates would be. MMOs have to have balance.PC/EU DC0 -
Artjuh90✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes we should
cause the racial balance is so good atm?
P.s. ZoS choose to follow the TES line so i see no reason to not implement it.
So your suggestion is to make racial imbalance even worse? They need to balance the passives, but the passives are not nearly as big of a deal as imbalanced racial ultimates would be. MMOs have to have balance.
no you could also balance things out like vampire is now.
a good example for this is the Altmer. in TES they always had the highest mana with a daily abilty to regen it fast. but this racial had it's price -> weakness to magicka. things like this you can actually balance. but they are to damn afraid to put any negative passives on a race with very strong passives
and for a racial passive if it's not strong they actaully lose out another strong ultimate like meteor or dragonleap (for DK for example) so it's not just adding things is the option to choose. diversaty is always good in a game1
