Casdha wrote: »

The idea is not what to use but more what it makes. A Polymorph potion (Race Change). Just like Psiijic Ambrosia, it would be hard to get but could also be sold in the crown store if folks didn't want to farm for it or buy it at a guild trader. Maybe Perfect Roe and one or two more ingredients of the same rarity.
To be fair, One mat " Perfect Row" can be found by anyone fishing (Solo). Have the next mat be found by farming mats in Cyrodiil (PvP) kind of like nirn in Craglorn. For the last mat, have it drop from trash mobs in group dungeons. This way each play style will have something to trade or sell to one another.

Just a thought.

p.s. If this were done, for goodness sake make sure it is part of the base game. Also, don't bind the recipe or Mats

Edit: Tweaked idea a bit to be fair

Race change and gender change do seem like things a potion could be made for...I don't think it should be a provisioning thing though. Definitely alchemy. The ingredients required could be found on a piece of paper somewhere (which could later be referenced in Eidetic Memory), and they could be the first potion that would require 4 reagents (possibly a second rank to the laboratory perk would be needed to accommodate this), and one of the ingredients could be a new reagent that's super rare (only used in non-standard potions like race/gender changing and stuff).

As for class changes...maybe some kind of ritual? Hey, a class change will need to happen at some point. When you have a VR16 main, one that you've been using for months, and you wish you got a different class, you shouldn't have to reroll and start all over. If class changes will become a thing then yes, a ritual (or repeatable quest in which a ritual is involved).

Casdha wrote: »

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

The idea is not what to use but more what it makes. A Polymorph potion (Race Change). Just like Psiijic Ambrosia, it would be hard to get but could also be sold in the crown store if folks didn't want to farm for it or buy it at a guild trader. Maybe Perfect Roe and one or two more ingredients of the same rarity.
To be fair, One mat " Perfect Row" can be found by anyone fishing (Solo). Have the next mat be found by farming mats in Cyrodiil (PvP) kind of like nirn in Craglorn. For the last mat, have it drop from trash mobs in group dungeons. This way each play style will have something to trade or sell to one another.

Just a thought.

p.s. If this were done, for goodness sake make sure it is part of the base game. Also, don't bind the recipe or Mats

Edit: Tweaked idea a bit to be fair

Race change and gender change do seem like things a potion could be made for...I don't think it should be a provisioning thing though. Definitely alchemy. The ingredients required could be found on a piece of paper somewhere (which could later be referenced in Eidetic Memory), and they could be the first potion that would require 4 reagents (possibly a second rank to the laboratory perk would be needed to accommodate this), and one of the ingredients could be a new reagent that's super rare (only used in non-standard potions like race/gender changing and stuff).

As for class changes...maybe some kind of ritual? Hey, a class change will need to happen at some point. When you have a VR16 main, one that you've been using for months, and you wish you got a different class, you shouldn't have to reroll and start all over. If class changes will become a thing then yes, a ritual (or repeatable quest in which a ritual is involved).

I was thinking Alchemy as well. As far as using Perfect Roe, there are recipes now in Orsinium that use alchemy mats in food. No harm in in being able to do double duty, might put some value back into it.

Alchemy mats in food? Didn't know about this until you said it, but that sounds cool.

I still think that a potion for sex/race changes should be alchemy territory rather than provisioning. There's no reason a new ingredient couldn't be added to the game. They could have appear as super rare resource nodes on the overworld, have a REALLY small chance to appear anywhere, and could be distinguished by a bright golden glow and also a skyshard-style beam of light.

Ok so to keep the mechanics the same without changing a lot, (combining ideas here). Add another skill point to laboratory and rather than a recipie, Have the tool tip say something like " Allows the use of this, this, this, and this to make (Potion Name) which allows you to change race/sex.

As for Class, I think it should be visiting an NPC to buy training (or a quest) or another Aedric shrine where you pay to allow you to choose a different path in life.

Azurephoenix999 wrote: »

Casdha wrote: »

Ok so to keep the mechanics the same without changing a lot, (combining ideas here). Add another skill point to laboratory and rather than a recipie, Have the tool tip say something like " Allows the use of this, this, this, and this to make (Potion Name) which allows you to change race/sex.

As for Class, I think it should be visiting an NPC to buy training (or a quest) or another Aedric shrine where you pay to allow you to choose a different path in life.

An Aedric shrine...maybe Akatosh? It rewinds time and allows you to change your decision. A class change is probably the most major thing in the game though, so I don't think it should be that easy.

Maybe a relatively lengthy quest where the reward is the chance to use the shrine?

I would expect any change, including class, to start out at zero on skill earned. You may be maxed 50 in your race and class skills but if you change them those start back out at zero and points are earned the same way they were the first time. Kind of like having to level up a new weapon or armor skill line when you try to change what you use after reaching max level. I think that would be plenty of cost myself. I might be willing to forgo leveling the race skill, but not the class. Kind of like how many folks change careers several times throughout life.