PVP healing ethics

Deandril
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With so many accusations of people using healing skills to leech AP I just would like some clarification. I am currently trying to level my alliance rank on my V16 Templar to unlock PVP skills.

1. I play solo and ride to battles that are indicated on the map.

2. I am specced to heal.

3. I use an assortment of useful healing skills rather than spamming rapid regen.

4. I stick around and try to keep other yellows on their feet even if it looks like my end(I become a target pretty fast sometimes).

5. I have several hundred grand soul gems in my inventory and raise anyone and everyone.

My question is would I still be perceived as leeching AP?

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  • vortexman11
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    Simple fix. If people get mad at you for healing them and "leeching AP" let them die. :)
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  • Karamis_Vimardon
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    Simple fix. If people get mad at you for healing them and "leeching AP" let them die. :)

    Pretty much this.

    Don't worry what others think, if you're keeping people alive they have no reason to complain.
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  • DannyLV702
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    Exactly what the guy above me said. You're a healer, it's not your fault you get more AP.
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  • eliisra
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    No. You're trying to keep allies alive, that's healing. Almost everyone loves help from a healer, even if not in group.

    Leeching is standing in the back line, mostly out of enemy target range so no risk of dying. Than spamming random ranged skills or heals to tag kills, without contributing in the fight.

    Healers will save your life, leechers wont. Because they're not using expensive burst heals/shields like Breath of Life or Healing Ward, they only spam HoT's on full health targets, while hiding in the back.
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  • Crown
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    Deandril wrote: »
    I am an AD on PC NA.

    @Deandril Whisper me in-game and I'll help you get set up.

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  • Deandril
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    Thank you I feel much better now. Gonna try harder to ignore the people with toxic attitudes.
  • Galalin
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    Leech all you want but if you see me standing on a resource doing nothing and getting killed by gaurds... i prob wont be very happy if you heal me ;)

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  • driosketch
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    Just want to say, your play style is a lot like mine. And no one has ever accused me of leeching.
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  • Reverb
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    Deandril wrote: »
    Thank you I feel much better now. Gonna try harder to ignore the people with toxic attitudes.

    The bolded part is good general advice, especially in PvP
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  • Crown
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    @Deandril What faction / platform do you play on? Most guilds are always on the lookout for good healers, or new healers who have not formed bad habits and can learn right from the start!
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  • Lord-Stien
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    if he is DC NA.... He is MINE!!
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  • JamilaRaj
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    Personally, I think healing is unethical and despise players who can not take hits like men and resolve to lowly healing.
  • Brrrofski
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    Do people moan about hearler's leeching xp??

    I heal when on my temp just to keep people alive.

    When I'm not on my temp, people can heal away. It keeps my health topped up. Who's going to object to that?

    Honestly, people whine about everything in this game
  • k2blader
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    Hi OP, I can't answer your questions because I think anyone complaining about people "leeching AP"-- especially if the complaints are directed at healers-- is a nincompoop and should be treated as such.


    Edited by k2blader on November 30, 2015 9:15AM
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  • altemriel
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    Do people moan about hearler's leeching xp??

    I heal when on my temp just to keep people alive.

    When I'm not on my temp, people can heal away. It keeps my health topped up. Who's going to object to that?

    Honestly, people whine about everything in this game



    I agree!
  • Jura23
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    JamilaRaj wrote: »
    Personally, I think healing is unethical and despise players who can not take hits like men and resolve to lowly healing.

    Yeah, only thing more unethical than healing is self-healing.
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  • Lucky28
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    Who cares . I leech AP using rapid regen and refreshing path. it's all good.

    When you just start a new character and wanna unlock Alliance war skills, do whatever it takes i say.
    Edited by Lucky28 on November 30, 2015 10:12AM
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  • Zavus
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    If you run around spamming mutugen or rapid regen while doing nothing else. youre leeching.
    Edited by Zavus on November 30, 2015 1:12PM
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  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    Keep up the good work!

    Templars are great healers in Cyrodiil. I love standing in the breach spamming Purifying Ritual, Ritual of Rebirth, and the occasional Honor the Dead. And don't forget everyone's favorite Jesus Beam.
  • Deandril
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    Crown wrote: »
    @Deandril What faction / platform do you play on? Most guilds are always on the lookout for good healers, or new healers who have not formed bad habits and can learn right from the start!

    I am an AD on PC NA.
  • VincentBlanquin
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    i presume healing in this game should be changed, well like almost everything else))
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  • Takes-No-Prisoner
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    eliisra wrote: »
    No. You're trying to keep allies alive, that's healing. Almost everyone loves help from a healer, even if not in group.

    Leeching is standing in the back line, mostly out of enemy target range so no risk of dying. Than spamming random ranged skills or heals to tag kills, without contributing in the fight.

    Healers will save your life, leechers wont. Because they're not using expensive burst heals/shields like Breath of Life or Healing Ward, they only spam HoT's on full health targets, while hiding in the back.

    Pretty much what this post says sums up PvP Healing. If you just heal and play the part of a coward not willing to fight, your alliance takes notice pretty quickly. A healer really shows his stripes by:

    1. Helping to purge, barrier, BoH and apply HoTs in very tense fights (like at choke points)
    2. Purposely unhides himself and aids a warrior who gets ganked -- even at the cost of possibly dying himself
    3. Is the first person to start ress'ing fallen comrades, even while the fight is still going strong
    4. Is the first person to heal a ally who is getting chased back to the entrance point of a keep -- I can't tell you how many times I saved people who were being chased by 3-4 reds and just barely at the door about to die, then they get a heal from me just in time to get inside safe and sound

    You can do all of these things solo OP. I do the same stuff you do. Maybe the only thing I would advise, is this. If you are constantly riding to areas of conflict, you should reconsider where exactly your alliance needs you. While aiding in areas of conflict is great. Sometimes, when the war gets really heated, you might need to choose the most important place for you to be. Those choices can make or break saving a keep. So as you continue playing in PvP, pay attention to where people in your alliance are going, check to see what the enemy is doing. Draw the lines, connect the dots and you'll see what they're trying to do. Check the map every 5 minute, prepare, plan and greet the enemy at your home keep just as he sets up siege.
    Edited by Takes-No-Prisoner on November 30, 2015 5:14PM
  • timidobserver
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    There are no ethics in PvP....
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  • RDMyers65b14_ESO
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    As a healer, if you are healing, you are contributing not leeching. Leechers don't contribute anything but add to the poplock so those who are legitimately wanting to PVP have to wait in queue.

    And, yes us healers tend to be the main targets. It always amusing that the other factions almost always sends 4 or 5 people just to kill me. I am harmless as I am just healing. :)
  • DisgracefulMind
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    I always love bumping into the random healers in the battlefield, I've had many rezzes from them and many life-saving heals, you are ALL valuable. You don't need to be in a group, you're contributing to your alliance in a very important way. You are definitely not a leecher.
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  • Rylana
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    So on my templar healer.... i pretty much just run around solo

    While running solo, I kill things, and sometimes spams da breaths of life

    Sometimes i get free AP cause some dude was hurt nearby

    Tell me again how this is bad

    >_>

    And at the same time, tell me again why people dont group healers? (i dont ask to be grouped, i usually prefer running alone on Minerva)

    But in all seriousness, whats the big freaking deal man.
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  • Minno
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    Rylana wrote: »
    So on my templar healer.... i pretty much just run around solo

    While running solo, I kill things, and sometimes spams da breaths of life

    Sometimes i get free AP cause some dude was hurt nearby

    Tell me again how this is bad

    >_>

    And at the same time, tell me again why people dont group healers? (i dont ask to be grouped, i usually prefer running alone on Minerva)

    But in all seriousness, whats the big freaking deal man.

    Because its a secret "tin-foil" nerf to templars; dem nightblades don't want to give up their power without bringing us down lol.

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