Been playing since August still my highest character is v5 remove VRs already :(

Thalmor-Nordmaster · November 2015

Big peter

I too started in August. I have two v16's had three but I drunk deleted one. I also have a vet 2 sorc and a vet 2 dk . Peanut Butter Psychic gave out some great tips and no milk drinking required.A game is like life you get out of it what you put into it.

Veterinary ranks will be removed many threads exist on this subject. And I am having fun. I think the only way I could have more fun is if I could spit in the Mead and knock food off of the stupid Nord tables.

Gidorick · November 2015

Lol. I just read this as "wah! I wanna be max level without any more effort". Don't worry when VR are levels get removed you'll get your participation trophy.

MaxwellC · November 2015

I'm so sick and tired of people who hadn't even leveled through veteran 16 once and complain about removing the veteran ranks.
Now note not claiming the OP is making that claim but in my opinion veterans ranks should not be removed.

The main complaint from this system is having multiple characters, so instead of removing it when your secondary account hits level 10 you should get an option to skip to your highest leveled characters level. This I'm my opinion is better than out right removing the Veteran ranks.

Valrien · November 2015

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I'm so sick and tired of people who hadn't even leveled through veteran 16 once and complain about removing the veteran ranks.
Now note not claiming the OP is making that claim but in my opinion veterans ranks should not be removed.

The main complaint from this system is having multiple characters, so instead of removing it when your secondary account hits level 10 you should get an option to skip to your highest leveled characters level. This I'm my opinion is better than out right removing the Veteran ranks.

That's similar to what's happening with CP, hit level 50 and your character is the same level as any other max level on your account up to CP 160

Robo_Hobo · November 2015

At least when VR is replaced with Champion points, you'll only have to do the grind to end-game once since it'll be account-wide. Then if you feel like making another character to try a new class or something, you'll just have to get to level 50 and then it'll be equal in power to your highest level character and you'll be able to start doing whatever you intended to do with that new character right away.

FriedEggSandwich · November 2015

Robo_Hobo wrote: »

At least when VR is replaced with Champion points, you'll only have to do the grind to end-game once since it'll be account-wide. Then if you feel like making another character to try a new class or something, you'll just have to get to level 50 and then it'll be equal in power to your highest level character and you'll be able to start doing whatever you intended to do with that new character right away.

You'll be very starved of skill points if you play like that. You might have just about enough for 1 build per char though.

WldKarde · November 2015

Seriously don't see what the problem is OP.

In less than a month I took a new character from start (and I mean 0 CP's also) to VR16 (and oh BTW 200 CP's) on my second account.

Oh, and NEWS FLASH...I'm not a very good player, nor do I spend all day grinding my a$$ off. In fact I actually do the quests.

If you have read these forums, you would know that ZOS plans to replace VR's with (around) a 10 CP per VR equivalent. In other words, once ONE of your characters has about 160 CP's...ALL of your other characters will be able to equip "endgame" gear. Are you happy now?

OR...

Would you like for ZOS to actually level you characters for you ALSO?

Come on...really?

FriedEggSandwich · November 2015

wldkarde wrote: »

Seriously don't see what the problem is OP.

In less than a month I took a new character from start (and I mean 0 CP's also) to VR16 (and oh BTW 200 CP's) on my second account.

Oh, and NEWS FLASH...I'm not a very good player, nor do I spend all day grinding my a$$ off. In fact I actually do the quests.

If you have read these forums, you would know that ZOS plans to replace VR's with (around) a 10 CP per VR equivalent. In other words, once ONE of your characters has about 160 CP's...ALL of your other characters will be able to equip "endgame" gear. Are you happy now?

OR...

Would you like for ZOS to actually level you characters for you ALSO?

Come on...really?

There is a market for fully leveled accounts I believe. A friend of mine reckons he can sell his 4x v16, all classes, 500cp account for $500. The mind boggles.

ThePonzzz · November 2015

Who cares about end game, enjoy the ride.

PBpsy · November 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Lol. I just read this is "wah! I wanna be max level without any more effort". Don't worry when VR are levels get removed you'll get your participation trophy.

yeha but it's all fine since players with one or multiple VR charcters will get 16CP. You know ZOS thinks that's fair.

WldKarde · November 2015

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

There is a market for fully leveled accounts I believe. A friend of mine reckons he can sell his 4x v16, all classes, 500cp account for $500. The mind boggles.

Agreed...I mean what the hell is the point of paying for a game...unless you actually get to play it.

Guess I must be getting old. I actually want to take the time and enjoy the game I just spent my money on.

Korah_Eaglecry · November 2015

KoshkaMurka wrote: »

Well... It wont be as easy as you think.
VR ranks will be replaced with champion points it seems.

That was the point of the CP system. If you werent here before the CPs were introduced. Stop commenting with this painfully obvious point.

PBpsy · November 2015

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

wldkarde wrote: »

Seriously don't see what the problem is OP.

In less than a month I took a new character from start (and I mean 0 CP's also) to VR16 (and oh BTW 200 CP's) on my second account.

Oh, and NEWS FLASH...I'm not a very good player, nor do I spend all day grinding my a$$ off. In fact I actually do the quests.

If you have read these forums, you would know that ZOS plans to replace VR's with (around) a 10 CP per VR equivalent. In other words, once ONE of your characters has about 160 CP's...ALL of your other characters will be able to equip "endgame" gear. Are you happy now?

OR...

Would you like for ZOS to actually level you characters for you ALSO?

Come on...really?

There is a market for fully leveled accounts I believe. A friend of mine reckons he can sell his 4x v16, all classes, 500cp account for $500. The mind boggles.

As a guy that made a few hundred dollars by selling crap when Diablo 3 came out I am quite amazed at how dumb gamers are when It comes to money.

Annalyse · November 2015

Valrien wrote: »

MaxwellCrystal wrote: »

I'm so sick and tired of people who hadn't even leveled through veteran 16 once and complain about removing the veteran ranks.
Now note not claiming the OP is making that claim but in my opinion veterans ranks should not be removed.

The main complaint from this system is having multiple characters, so instead of removing it when your secondary account hits level 10 you should get an option to skip to your highest leveled characters level. This I'm my opinion is better than out right removing the Veteran ranks.

That's similar to what's happening with CP, hit level 50 and your character is the same level as any other max level on your account up to CP 160

Similar, but not the same as his suggestion, which I agree with. Stick with vet ranks but give the OPTION of skipping if you are on an alt (much like you get the option when you start of skipping the tutorial area). Because some people don't want to skip, believe it or not. I prefer to have levelling as a goal and work my way through the available quests and content to get there. I know that if they change it to CP points so your level effectively stays showing as 50, I will likely just start quitting my alts at 50, so I really do wish they would make it optional.

And to the OP, I started in July I believe but took an entire month off for a holiday, so we're about the same... but from questing only in my very limited spare time I have one VR11, one VR3, and a few lower alts. I'm not sure how you were trying to level but it feels pretty fast to me.

bedlom · November 2015

Veteran ranks was the best part, so much more freedom. The fact that zos are planning on removing them is a dumb decision I believe.

I dont want dcuo where you get to a low level that never ever increases just to wait in ques all day to run the same content just for some BS skill point system nonsence.

zornyan · November 2015

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Robo_Hobo wrote: »

At least when VR is replaced with Champion points, you'll only have to do the grind to end-game once since it'll be account-wide. Then if you feel like making another character to try a new class or something, you'll just have to get to level 50 and then it'll be equal in power to your highest level character and you'll be able to start doing whatever you intended to do with that new character right away.

You'll be very starved of skill points if you play like that. You might have just about enough for 1 build per char though.

Yeah but thats why lots of us make the odd alt, I made a stam NB and since I had all my crafting done on other characters I didn't need all of them, just doing the main quest line and your factions quest was enough, haven't touched silver or gold or collected many skyshards.

Gidorick · November 2015

bedlom wrote: »

Veteran ranks was the best part, so much more freedom. The fact that zos are planning on removing them is a dumb decision I believe.

I dont want dcuo where you get to a low level that never ever increases just to wait in ques all day to run the same content just for some BS skill point system nonsence.

Well, this is where ESO is going.

When I hit max level in DCUO. I quit. Never looked back.

Merry · November 2015

Its just not that hard. I did every quest, cleared every zone map minus dungeons (I dont do group play much but I did do the dolmens and world bosses) and, without grinding one single minute, I got to vr16 quickly. I had fun doing it too. Which helped a lot I didnt watch my xp bar, I just played. M

Florial · November 2015

Merry wrote: »

Its just not that hard. I did every quest, cleared every zone map minus dungeons (I dont do group play much but I did do the dolmens and world bosses) and, without grinding one single minute, I got to vr16 quickly. I had fun doing it too. Which helped a lot I didnt watch my xp bar, I just played. M

Yep, exactly what I'm doing as well. Started my new character in August or so like the OP and have been playing rather casually. I'm a completionist at heart and have been doing the Caldwell's Silver/Gold quests plus any quests I run across. I'm trying to do all the quests in every zone for the achievements and never leave a zone until I do so. And oh, when I see a fishing hole, I try to stop to fish between quests. I do want that angler achievement eventually.

By the time I finish up Caldwell's gold, I will be V14. Then I'll venture into some dungeons, do Orsinium and perhaps a bit of PvP for the first time in the game. Heck haven't even see Crag? yet. I still have skyshards to find, delves to complete and just have fun along the way. I think the key is to have fun along the way and not watch that experience bar obsessively. I watch a few folks in my various guilds moan and moan about vet levels and how awful they are. Sure, I can see them getting frustrated on alts and having to do Caldwell's silver/gold multiple times but getting frustrated on a first character when there is so much to see and do.........

I'm not sure what to think about vet rank removals. I'm sure that when they are gone, folks will complain about the CP system as well.

CapnPhoton · November 2015

Infinite12 wrote: »

Bigevilpeter wrote: »

How the heck is one supposed to get to v16 and endgame and worse what if i want to do it with more than one character?

I can't play 8 hours a day and I don't even feel the fun of the game because I just want to get to end game. End game can have multiple levels and can take long to get top gear its ok, but all that just to get to end game is insane.

There is no point of trying to get good gear since the next VR it will be weak and this has really demotivated me no fun in gear grinding or crafting.

When will VRs be removed already? I want to get back into this game.

So you can't play a lot (which sucks, I understand that) but you want veteran ranks removed so you can automatically be at the max level? That's what it's sounding like and if that's what you're saying then that's ludicrous lol. The sad part is that zenimax is listening FAR TOO much to people like you, casual gamers, and catering to you. That's why this game is slowly but surely headed down the crapper. If you have a single player game and you don't have a lot of time to play it, but you want to finish it so you can see how it ends, do you ask the people who made the game to cut out parts of the game so you can get to the end faster?

There is nothing wrong with casual players in general. I have been playing since June and my max is v3. Both sides should understand that if they want only one or the other (casual or hardcore) there will be some game elements they don't like either way. This has been true since MMOs have been around.

Merry · November 2015

Florial wrote: »

Merry wrote: »

Its just not that hard. I did every quest, cleared every zone map minus dungeons (I dont do group play much but I did do the dolmens and world bosses) and, without grinding one single minute, I got to vr16 quickly. I had fun doing it too. Which helped a lot I didnt watch my xp bar, I just played. M

Yep, exactly what I'm doing as well. Started my new character in August or so like the OP and have been playing rather casually. I'm a completionist at heart and have been doing the Caldwell's Silver/Gold quests plus any quests I run across. I'm trying to do all the quests in every zone for the achievements and never leave a zone until I do so. And oh, when I see a fishing hole, I try to stop to fish between quests. I do want that angler achievement eventually.

By the time I finish up Caldwell's gold, I will be V14. Then I'll venture into some dungeons, do Orsinium and perhaps a bit of PvP for the first time in the game. Heck haven't even see Crag? yet. I still have skyshards to find, delves to complete and just have fun along the way. I think the key is to have fun along the way and not watch that experience bar obsessively. I watch a few folks in my various guilds moan and moan about vet levels and how awful they are. Sure, I can see them getting frustrated on alts and having to do Caldwell's silver/gold multiple times but getting frustrated on a first character when there is so much to see and do.........

I'm not sure what to think about vet rank removals. I'm sure that when they are gone, folks will complain about the CP system as well.

I think we hit it right on the money. STOP watching the xp bar, and just go play. In another game there was a kid in my guild who was overly obsessed with his xp bar. He asked me how to lvl faster and I told him to put masking tape across the xp bar on his monitor. About 2 weeks later he /w me that it actually worked lol. Of course he didnt lvl faster, it just seemed like it. OR seemed less slow.
The point? Just go play ESO. It is a really fun game to play through.
On another note. When I first started playing I asked in /guild if there was enough to do to hit cap without grinding. Across the board they all said no, that I would have to grind at least some. This is NOT true. I hit cap without ever hitting Craglorn or either of the DLCs. I also never did a group dungeon. So there is plenty to do to hit cap without falling into "the grind".

M

MrDerrikk · November 2015

I finally got a char to VR16 yesterday and also finished up all the Wrothgar quests. This means that the only quests I haven't done in the entire game are Craglorn (group only that nobody wants to do) and IC (gankers paradise that I'm not so interested in).

I'm feeling a severe lack of things to do other than struggling through vMA, so take your time OP! Enjoy those quests, find some friends who are willing to run through group content and have a pile of fun!

Note: I'm assuming you're not interested in PvP

BabeestorGor · November 2015

I've been playing since July and my highest level character is 19th but a game isn't only endgame, enjoy the journey, don't obsess about the destination.

CJohnson81 · November 2015

I started in July, still only have one character, level 41 as of last week. I'm not sure what the rush to end game is. What's the appeal? What am I missing?

Tors · November 2015

Currenty it takes 4 days of quite intensive play for me to hit 50, (not days played, but 4 heavy sessions) 10 hours or so.

From there its 4 vet levels an evenings grind for the next 3 nights then 2 more for the next two nights.

Basically dont grind just quest up to 50, then only quest when your so board of grinding your falling asleep in the VR ranks.

Dont for gods sake read or listern to the quest dialouges, Press 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 1 till completion.

Equip what you loot,. dont waste time crafting anything, at VR 1 get a full set of armour, that will last you to VR16

Simples, dont cry when you reach the "end game" (whatever that is) and you find theres nothing to do and your character is an undeveloped weedy thing with no more right to live on Gods clean earth than a weazil

Also your armour will look like a newbie becasue you will only have mud colour dye (you need some effort to get anything you would want to be seen in)

Vangy · November 2015

I was against vr ranks but not for the same reasons as u OP. I firmly believe that finishing all story quest and cadwells should put you at max level but as it stands it dosent. It only takes you to v10 if I remember correctly. On my first toon I did everything. Every marker explored, every delve, public dungeon, lore book, hell I even had tamriel sky shard hunter with all of craglorn non-forced group content cleared solo. To much of my horror, I noticed I was still 4 full vr ranks from max level (v14 was max back then). So I did what I had to do and grinded by mass pwning zombies and it was the most harrowing and unfun thing I had to do. Zos needs to do one of 2 things;

1. Make story quests give enough exp such that a complete clear of all content = max level
2. Or make things ez mode by removing vr ranks.

I'd prefer 1 but I'm still somewhat okay with 2. And I get why vr ranks are being removed. They just want a standardised system where cp takes over the role of vr ranks. Sure there will be problems that come with this but I Guess tackle one thing at a time.

beamy93 · November 2015

Whats the point in even commenting in these threads. If someone can't level one character past v5 in almost 4 months then they should just quit ESO. You're obviously trying to get your character to v16, but posting how it's impossible to level vet ranks and that they should remove vet ranks altogether won't make your xp go up.

A much more efficient way would be to use the search engine to find previous posts of people complaining, like yourself, and others, players that probably took the time to figure it out themselves, explaining it to them.

Also, they will be removing Vet ranks sometime next year, maybe in the coming months, but just because you'll be lvl 50 like the v16, doesn't mean you'll get to bypass the vet ranks you never leveled. V16 gear, top of the line gear, will only be usable for players that have enough CPs to equip them, ie. players who were v16 before the vet removals.

If you play 8 hours per day, you should have a lvl1 toon to v16 in 2 weeks, max. No reason it should be taking you this long nor for this thread to even exist.

NobleNerd · November 2015

Honestly with only 850k per Veteran ranked needed and an across the board increase of about 50% to all Veteran xp earned, plus xp drinks or xp scrolls (50% increase to xp earned) it is not at all a huge grind to get to vr16!

The MMO generation has had it quite easy lately with all the watering down of content and experience needed. I guess this is just the direction of the MMO world.... watered down content for casual players to get through. The PvE difficulty is so easy in most these MMOs now too. Most of the time I can 3 button fight just about anything and not worry about dying.

Rant ended... The good news is Veteran Ranks are positioned to be removed sometime next year with Champion Points taking their spot and everything being focused on that system. It is in essence a better option, but does poise some concerns.

MrDerrikk · November 2015

Vangy wrote: »

I was against vr ranks but not for the same reasons as u OP. I firmly believe that finishing all story quest and cadwells should put you at max level but as it stands it dosent. It only takes you to v10 if I remember correctly. On my first toon I did everything. Every marker explored, every delve, public dungeon, lore book, hell I even had tamriel sky shard hunter with all of craglorn non-forced group content cleared solo. To much of my horror, I noticed I was still 4 full vr ranks from max level (v14 was max back then). So I did what I had to do and grinded by mass pwning zombies and it was the most harrowing and unfun thing I had to do.

They've since made VR take less XP, so I managed to get to VR15 and a half just by doing all of Cadwells Silver + Gold (I didn't even do the Public Dungeons whilst doing these, so I probably would have gotten to max level if I'd gone through them).

CapnPhoton · November 2015

BabeestorGor wrote: »

I've been playing since July and my highest level character is 19th but a game isn't only endgame, enjoy the journey, don't obsess about the destination.

This is true. Some people think its a race. Then when they get to the end its, hurry up and wait for the next vr rank or add on.