Sorcerer Max Spell Power Build

Justin.B · September 2015

I am currently a vet 16 sorc and only have around 2,100 - 2,200 spell power unbuffed. I will list what my build is later in the post, but I want to know how much of a difference (in spell power) there is between the vet 14 Martial Knowledge set and vet 16 Overwhelming Surge set. I also would like some input on how to incorporate the new 3 piece Willpower set into a max spell sorc build.

*all items are purple unless otherwise noted

Weapon 1: Vet 14 Inferno Staff of Torug's Pact (Gold Nirnhoned)
Weapon 1:

Weapon 2: Vet 14 Restoration Staff of Torug's Pact/ Sword of Willpower
Weapon 2:

/ Sword of Willpower

Head: Androitness (Vet 12)
Chest: Torug's Pact (Vet 14 Gold Medium Nirnhoned)
Shoulders: Martial Knowledge (Vet 11)
Hands: Martial Knowledge (Vet 12)
Waist: Torug's Pact (Vet 14 Medium)
Legs: Martial Knowledge (Vet 13)
Feet: Martial Knowledge (Vet 12)

Neck: Vet 12 Necklace of Androitness
Ring 1: Vet 14 Ring of Cyrodiil's Light ( GoldSpell Damage enchantment)/ Ring of Willpower (Vet 16 Magic Regen)
Ring 2: Vet 6 Ring of Cyrodiil's Light (Gold Spell Damage enchantment)

First off I know I should have Vet 14 Martial Knowledge to get max spell power out of it, but I do not have the money to buy what I need. Second, is the new Overwhelming Surge set good enough to bypass upgrading my current armor to vet 14? Third, how can I incorporate the Willpower set into my build without taking away from spell power, and would I still be able to run a monster set piece if I wanted?

Bnec · November 2015

love this question ill be checking up on the post to see what people put

MrGrimey · November 2015

Aww, I thought this was gonna be a thread on whats the highest achievable (unbuffed) spellpower

I have:
2p torug
3pwillpower
5p julianos
1p molag keena

my unbuffed spell power is roughly 3,200 with 2 gold swords... Is there anything that can get higher SP?

FriedEggSandwich · November 2015

I have 5x kagrenacs, 3x arch mage and 3x willpower. With no campaign buffs I have around 2400 spell damage, going upto 2988 buffed with major sorcery. Scroll buffs push this upto about 3100 and with continuous attack passive it goes upto about 3400. I carry 2 staves and have 2x spell damage glyphs and one recovery glyph. My max magicka is 36k and recovery is 1900 (with 2x heavy, 7x light gives me over 2k recovery). I don't feel like I need any more spell damage for pvp, most players already melt, I prefer my regen. The problem with stacking spell damage in pvp is you most likely have to sacrifice max magicka or regen. Max magicka will improve your ward and recovery is important if you want to fight multiple enemies back to back without stopping to recover. Overwhelming surge is very hard to farm, if your determined to stack spell damage you might be better off crafting 5x julianos. Remember v16 gear will take v16 glyphs which are significantly better than v14 glyphs.

eldermpsmithrwb17_ESO · November 2015

I think higher is achievable but need overwhelming/scathing instead of Julianos, i just dont have the motivation to grind it out atm with the poor rng drops.

Madlark · November 2015

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

I have 5x kagrenacs, 3x arch mage and 3x willpower. With no campaign buffs I have around 2400 spell damage, going upto 2988 buffed with major sorcery. Scroll buffs push this upto about 3100 and with continuous attack passive it goes upto about 3400. I carry 2 staves and have 2x spell damage glyphs and one recovery glyph. My max magicka is 36k and recovery is 1900 (with 2x heavy, 7x light gives me over 2k recovery). I don't feel like I need any more spell damage for pvp, most players already melt, I prefer my regen. The problem with stacking spell damage in pvp is you most likely have to sacrifice max magicka or regen. Max magicka will improve your ward and recovery is important if you want to fight multiple enemies back to back without stopping to recover. Overwhelming surge is very hard to farm, if your determined to stack spell damage you might be better off crafting 5x julianos. Remember v16 gear will take v16 glyphs which are significantly better than v14 glyphs.

Could you please explain how you got to 1900 Recovery? With very similar equipment, I have 880-ish (!) Recovery. Champion Points? Or are these buffed values?

Thank you!

FriedEggSandwich · November 2015

Madlark wrote: »

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

I have 5x kagrenacs, 3x arch mage and 3x willpower. With no campaign buffs I have around 2400 spell damage, going upto 2988 buffed with major sorcery. Scroll buffs push this upto about 3100 and with continuous attack passive it goes upto about 3400. I carry 2 staves and have 2x spell damage glyphs and one recovery glyph. My max magicka is 36k and recovery is 1900 (with 2x heavy, 7x light gives me over 2k recovery). I don't feel like I need any more spell damage for pvp, most players already melt, I prefer my regen. The problem with stacking spell damage in pvp is you most likely have to sacrifice max magicka or regen. Max magicka will improve your ward and recovery is important if you want to fight multiple enemies back to back without stopping to recover. Overwhelming surge is very hard to farm, if your determined to stack spell damage you might be better off crafting 5x julianos. Remember v16 gear will take v16 glyphs which are significantly better than v14 glyphs.

Could you please explain how you got to 1900 Recovery? With very similar equipment, I have 880-ish (!) Recovery. Champion Points? Or are these buffed values?

Thank you!

Forgot to mention cp. I have over 40cp in arcanist. And I'm an Altmer. Also arch mage adds recovery, and I have atronach mundus with 5x divines.

Edit: not buffed, if I drink a tripot my recovery goes upto about 2.3k.

Nifty2g · November 2015

2 kena
5 julianos
1 maelstrom destro staff
2 torug swords

Trihugger · November 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

2 kena
5 julianos
1 maelstrom destro staff
2 torug swords

This will net you the highest sustainable (see below) spell damage. Scathing mage is not very good as you *actually* have a 10% chance to proc the damage AFTER the 6 seconds of uptime END. You're looking at, on a good day, 50% uptime which is poopoo compared to the static value of Julianos. As a sorc this just gets worse and worse as your uptime will be lower while overloading than doing weaves with Force Pulse.

Now as an aside, 2 pieces of Kena is some ol BS to try to do w/o something like 400 CP's. Frankly it's some ol BS to do even with that as your healer is going to have to stash those two swords they're likely using (templars) and run Destro/Resto for mana return debuffs. You're also going to be a worse addict than a Kitty on Skooma for Magicka potions (crafted kind that last the full 47 seconds, not the dropped variety).

Your first things to do when you hit VR16 are to get yourself some gold weapons. There is a 220ish damage difference between Purple and Gold VR16 weapons. It is staggering, and with staves, stupid cheap to accomplish.

Nifty2g · November 2015

Trihugger wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

2 kena
5 julianos
1 maelstrom destro staff
2 torug swords

This will net you the highest sustainable (see below) spell damage. Scathing mage is not very good as you *actually* have a 10% chance to proc the damage AFTER the 6 seconds of uptime END. You're looking at, on a good day, 50% uptime which is poopoo compared to the static value of Julianos. As a sorc this just gets worse and worse as your uptime will be lower while overloading than doing weaves with Force Pulse.

Now as an aside, 2 pieces of Kena is some ol BS to try to do w/o something like 400 CP's. Frankly it's some ol BS to do even with that as your healer is going to have to stash those two swords they're likely using (templars) and run Destro/Resto for mana return debuffs. You're also going to be a worse addict than a Kitty on Skooma for Magicka potions (crafted kind that last the full 47 seconds, not the dropped variety).

Your first things to do when you hit VR16 are to get yourself some gold weapons. There is a 220ish damage difference between Purple and Gold VR16 weapons. It is staggering, and with staves, stupid cheap to accomplish.

Scathing is pretty bad, after a lot of tests the uptime is <45% on dragonknight, so as a sorcerer you're looking at around 25%
As long as you are running Elemental Drain or someone else is, you should be 100% fine with Kena because of force pulse, it's not unlikely for DPS to run elemental drain.

But yeah that's probably the absolute best DPS set up, mainly for trials and such, and you could probably get away with it in Maelstrom if you run Elemental Drain I know a lot of sorcerers are doing it now.

Other than this set up I don't know any other strong runs, but honestly don't use Scathing Mage

Madlark · November 2015

FriedEggSandwich wrote: »

Forgot to mention cp. I have over 40cp in arcanist. And I'm an Altmer. Also arch mage adds recovery, and I have atronach mundus with 5x divines.

Edit: not buffed, if I drink a tripot my recovery goes upto about 2.3k.

Oh, being an Altmer explains things. My sorc is a Bosmer, unfortunately - I'm one of those people who create one toon and stick to him no matter what, till death do us part

Should probably switch to Stamina.