Is Console Text Chat Being Worked On?

NewBlacksmurf · November 2015

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Why does pc have text chat and additional option/support for console UI and console controller?

....and yet console isn't given pc interface or text chat options? I can plug a mouse/keyboard into my console just like a pc owner can plug an Xbox controller into his pc

Not very fair ZOS to be honest. You KNOW console owners have been screaming for text chat since release, you are taking the ***

PC doesn't have voice chat and only text chat unless they use a third party option. The same applies to consoles, there is a third party text chat available

I'd not say it's unfair but just different designs based on native hardware. My sig has the website where you can text chat. ESO lfg

Nergie4242 · November 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Why does pc have text chat and additional option/support for console UI and console controller?

....and yet console isn't given pc interface or text chat options? I can plug a mouse/keyboard into my console just like a pc owner can plug an Xbox controller into his pc

Not very fair ZOS to be honest. You KNOW console owners have been screaming for text chat since release, you are taking the ***

PC doesn't have voice chat and only text chat unless they use a third party option. The same applies to consoles, there is a third party text chat available

I'd not say it's unfair but just different designs based on native hardware. My sig has the website where you can text chat. ESO lfg

So instead of having a keyboard next to me so I can type stuff on screen of the game im playing I should have a laptop/smartphone/tablet next to me so i can type stuff off the screen of the game I'm playing.

Seems legit.

Hiero_Glyph · November 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Why does pc have text chat and additional option/support for console UI and console controller?

....and yet console isn't given pc interface or text chat options? I can plug a mouse/keyboard into my console just like a pc owner can plug an Xbox controller into his pc

Not very fair ZOS to be honest. You KNOW console owners have been screaming for text chat since release, you are taking the ***

PC doesn't have voice chat and only text chat unless they use a third party option. The same applies to consoles, there is a third party text chat available

I'd not say it's unfair but just different designs based on native hardware. My sig has the website where you can text chat. ESO lfg

You know as well as anyone that third-party options are extremely limited on consoles, not to mention that voice can operate in the background whereas text needs to be integrated to be of any real use. Can any third-party text application on consoles handle hundreds of players at once because that is really what an MMO requires. Voice chat never really needs to exceed 12 since once you have more the conversations start to become incomprehesible. It's an apples to oranges type of comparison as each performs a very different role.

EZgoin76 · November 2015

Voice chat is great for small groups or in groups of friends but anything beyond that is utter chaos. It's a complete mess with no moderation at all. Voice chat can't and never will be able to speak for the people with disabilities or the socially awkward shy people.

Though I'm just going over the same stuff that has been said many times before because some people still fail to realize that when playing this type of game with this many people, text chat is a must. Before anyone starts spouting "Well you can do this or that or whatever." instead of an in game text chat. It's ridiculous for any company to make their customers find a way to make things work.

Text chat is a much simpler way to start conversations and getting to know people before you talk to them. Unless your an overbearing meathead or an attention starved bimbo, you don't just walk up to people on the streets and start talking to them. To me area voice chat has no civility. It's just a bunch of egotistical airheads trying to be more audacious than the next person. Yes I have ran into and had some good conversations, but they are few and far between.

Text chat reaches a bigger audience, so lfg, buying, selling, and trading becomes a little easier.
Text chat is easily moderated and botted for profanity and spam.
Text chat can translate simple, common game phrases or a lot more depending on how robust the system is.
A text box can be resized to the users preference. Even completely off if you don't want it.
TEXT CHAT GIVES A VOICE TO THE VOICELESS. Sorry for the caps. Just thought this was the most important point.

There's a couple things I'm missing and I'm sure someone will criticize me for a part or all of this post. I don't care. At this point I say if your still against text chat being implemented. Your either only thinking about yourself and what you want or you absolutely love this grand social experiment ZOS is pulling on us.

Artjuh90 · November 2015

@ZOS let us finnaly know that you are or aren't going to implement this feature on consoles. although i don't think this game will last another year without text on consoles. we can move on you know, your focus has always been on pc while the console release gave new life to the game? think about that

shadelon · November 2015

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

shadelon wrote: »

I play on ps4 and I run a guild (League of Assassins), and ever since long before launch, we have run a group chat over PSN that has become our text chat. It works for us, quite well in fact, and switching back and forth to check messages really isn't that difficult, double tapping the ps button instantly switches back to the last app used. I contribute a lot of our success as a guild to this and in many ways it has allowed us to become closer over the last several months. With the PS app we are able to communicate even when we're not online, which is great. So considering all of this I have to wonder, if they ever do add text chat to consoles, would my guild even use it? Something to think about.

Because you would be able to interact with other players/groups in-game. Additionally, you could view messages in real-time while doing other things so you could know that a flank is approaching while fighting another group, which is impossible to read using your currrent system unless you plan on leaving yourself competely vulnerable while you do read it.

I'm glad you have fond a workaround for the current lack of text chat but please do not try to pretend that it somehow resolves the issue for everyone, let alone yourself.

I never said that it did did I? I just wonder if I will ever use it, because of our workaround. I'm not a pvper. I hate pvp. So I certainly don't need it for that.

Artjuh90 · November 2015

shadelon wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

shadelon wrote: »

I play on ps4 and I run a guild (League of Assassins), and ever since long before launch, we have run a group chat over PSN that has become our text chat. It works for us, quite well in fact, and switching back and forth to check messages really isn't that difficult, double tapping the ps button instantly switches back to the last app used. I contribute a lot of our success as a guild to this and in many ways it has allowed us to become closer over the last several months. With the PS app we are able to communicate even when we're not online, which is great. So considering all of this I have to wonder, if they ever do add text chat to consoles, would my guild even use it? Something to think about.

Because you would be able to interact with other players/groups in-game. Additionally, you could view messages in real-time while doing other things so you could know that a flank is approaching while fighting another group, which is impossible to read using your currrent system unless you plan on leaving yourself competely vulnerable while you do read it.

I'm glad you have fond a workaround for the current lack of text chat but please do not try to pretend that it somehow resolves the issue for everyone, let alone yourself.

I never said that it did did I? I just wonder if I will ever use it, because of our workaround. I'm not a pvper. I hate pvp. So I certainly don't need it for that.

PUG groups were you can easily teach a new player mechanics. things like thaat have to be brought into account aswell

Riga_Mortis · November 2015

I really wanted ESO to be the game I played for several years, but with the lack of text chat leading to a mostly solo experience I decided enough is finally enough. No response either way from ZOS addressing this much requested console feature is just mind blowing imo.

With all my guild mates gone and friend list all playing anything but ESO, i can't help but wonder how many would still be playing if this game had the basic tools needed to grow and maintain a real ingame community.

NewBlacksmurf · November 2015

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Why does pc have text chat and additional option/support for console UI and console controller?

....and yet console isn't given pc interface or text chat options? I can plug a mouse/keyboard into my console just like a pc owner can plug an Xbox controller into his pc

Not very fair ZOS to be honest. You KNOW console owners have been screaming for text chat since release, you are taking the ***

PC doesn't have voice chat and only text chat unless they use a third party option. The same applies to consoles, there is a third party text chat available

I'd not say it's unfair but just different designs based on native hardware. My sig has the website where you can text chat. ESO lfg

You know as well as anyone that third-party options are extremely limited on consoles, not to mention that voice can operate in the background whereas text needs to be integrated to be of any real use. Can any third-party text application on consoles handle hundreds of players at once because that is really what an MMO requires. Voice chat never really needs to exceed 12 since once you have more the conversations start to become incomprehesible. It's an apples to oranges type of comparison as each performs a very different role.

For the sake of argument text chat doesn't correct the limits that third party offers. Text anything is limited just as voice but in different ways. Make the best of what we have and pick your platform and keep gaming. If it ain't broke don't fix it....i think many ppl would be surprised at the amount who just don't chat at all via text or voice. Then there is the one or the other group and lastly the mix group.

If the game were in a solid state...id welcome any addition but right now the base game doesn't even perform and work as intended. Text chat doesn't offer resolutions to those many broken functions. It just adds fuel to the fire

shadelon · November 2015

Artjuh90 wrote: »

shadelon wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

shadelon wrote: »

I play on ps4 and I run a guild (League of Assassins), and ever since long before launch, we have run a group chat over PSN that has become our text chat. It works for us, quite well in fact, and switching back and forth to check messages really isn't that difficult, double tapping the ps button instantly switches back to the last app used. I contribute a lot of our success as a guild to this and in many ways it has allowed us to become closer over the last several months. With the PS app we are able to communicate even when we're not online, which is great. So considering all of this I have to wonder, if they ever do add text chat to consoles, would my guild even use it? Something to think about.

Because you would be able to interact with other players/groups in-game. Additionally, you could view messages in real-time while doing other things so you could know that a flank is approaching while fighting another group, which is impossible to read using your currrent system unless you plan on leaving yourself competely vulnerable while you do read it.

I'm glad you have fond a workaround for the current lack of text chat but please do not try to pretend that it somehow resolves the issue for everyone, let alone yourself.

I never said that it did did I? I just wonder if I will ever use it, because of our workaround. I'm not a pvper. I hate pvp. So I certainly don't need it for that.

PUG groups were you can easily teach a new player mechanics. things like thaat have to be brought into account aswell

I hardly ever do pugs. With an awesome guild such as mine behind my back I hardly ever feel the need to get a pug. Or use the group finder for that matter. I often get pm'ed questions on psn while running around vulkhel guard or what not anyway, and i'm always happy to answer them, and even offer them a guild to join with lots of friendly people always ready to answer questions or give a helping hand.

If I ever do get a pug, I can use voice chat to answer questions as well. I'm a friendly guy, if someone needs help, they only need ask.

Artjuh90 · November 2015

shadelon wrote: »

Artjuh90 wrote: »

shadelon wrote: »

Hiero_Glyph wrote: »

shadelon wrote: »

I play on ps4 and I run a guild (League of Assassins), and ever since long before launch, we have run a group chat over PSN that has become our text chat. It works for us, quite well in fact, and switching back and forth to check messages really isn't that difficult, double tapping the ps button instantly switches back to the last app used. I contribute a lot of our success as a guild to this and in many ways it has allowed us to become closer over the last several months. With the PS app we are able to communicate even when we're not online, which is great. So considering all of this I have to wonder, if they ever do add text chat to consoles, would my guild even use it? Something to think about.

Because you would be able to interact with other players/groups in-game. Additionally, you could view messages in real-time while doing other things so you could know that a flank is approaching while fighting another group, which is impossible to read using your currrent system unless you plan on leaving yourself competely vulnerable while you do read it.

I'm glad you have fond a workaround for the current lack of text chat but please do not try to pretend that it somehow resolves the issue for everyone, let alone yourself.

I never said that it did did I? I just wonder if I will ever use it, because of our workaround. I'm not a pvper. I hate pvp. So I certainly don't need it for that.

PUG groups were you can easily teach a new player mechanics. things like thaat have to be brought into account aswell

I hardly ever do pugs. With an awesome guild such as mine behind my back I hardly ever feel the need to get a pug. Or use the group finder for that matter. I often get pm'ed questions on psn while running around vulkhel guard or what not anyway, and i'm always happy to answer them, and even offer them a guild to join with lots of friendly people always ready to answer questions or give a helping hand.

If I ever do get a pug, I can use voice chat to answer questions as well. I'm a friendly guy, if someone needs help, they only need ask.

yes you are in a cummunity but if you are not it's really hard to find one. i'm glad im now in a small guild with 30 people where i actually speak to members. in my other 4 guild which have 500 members i don't know a single person in it. every time i check there weren't even people in the chat. text can improve communication with strangers in a beter way then voice does + some people don't like voice or aren't able to use it for what reason at all.
but it is abundantly clear that ZOS doesn't give to *** about consoles and focus on pc. examples are ZOS meating guilds from pc not consoles, issue loading screens adressing 3-4 weeks AFTER the pc fix, not responding on posts like this one about text chat were the community is quite clear, PTS (which i could live without but it's just one of the many things), no add-on support to consoles (they could actually use some of the more populair add-ons and make them avalable for consoles and the clunky controles (like weaponswiching) that you can't alter

terrordactyl1971 · November 2015

Orsinium World Bosses
Orsinium Public Dungeons

Neither of these are in the Group Finder Tool. Both of these require groups. As we don't have text chat, how does ZOS expect console players to get these done?

Why release content like this without any tool whatsoever to help complete this content???

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · December 2015

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Orsinium World Bosses
Orsinium Public Dungeons

Neither of these are in the Group Finder Tool. Both of these require groups. As we don't have text chat, how does ZOS expect console players to get these done?

Why release content like this without any tool whatsoever to help complete this content???

Don't forget PvP in Cyrodiil and IC, text chat is needed for coordination of groups and keep attacks, Daedra banners, bosses, taking resources, etc.

Asherons_Call · December 2015

dday3six wrote: »

DRXHarbinger wrote: »

No console players grouping without chat. Nothing worse than trying to communicate in a hard dungeon and being ignored or can't hear calls for help. Just the console nature and they know it. I for one will not group up if they cannot speak. Sometimes play with some french guys who speak no engrish at all but still the message gets across. Waiting on text isn't something anyone wants to do when the going gets tough.

It's not about communicating with players in the dungeon. Voice is clearly better for that in most cases. It's about a smoother experience looking for players to run dungeons with. Text chat allows for better mass communication, and solves issues that voice simply cannot.

This.

Voice chat is 100% the way to go in a dungeon. The problem is elsewhere (looking for help in a zone, trading, finding a pick up group, being able to monitor multiple guild channels at once, communicating with sleeping family members nearby, etc etc etc).

Someone mentioned above that this is the loneliest MMO they have ever played and unfortunately I have to agree with that assessment. ESO would be right up there with my all-time favorite MMOs if it had text. (And I've played many many MMOs)

Chieve · December 2015

ESO has no plans to add text chat.

I want it dont getnme wrong, i realllllyyy want it, and thats how i know they arent, because ive read everything about text chat on the forums but they dont listen.

They dont care.

We should just move on and hope they can make up for it.