Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood. What would you like too see?

TomCarterESO · November 2015

Greetings Forum Users.

As we all know, the next DLC to arrive in the Elder Scrolls Online will be Thieves Guild/Dark Brotherhood.

Rich Lambert already confirmed that a new Trial will be included in this DLC on the latest ESO LIVE, but we didn't really get any information about questing in general. In this next DLC, I'd like too see something different from the usual go here, kill this guy, come back, quest. I think it'd be great to add a bit of variation in the questing in the DLC and include more quests which have harder puzzles to solve, including riddles and floor puzzles, which we have seen before, but not too much. The fact ZoS put dailies in Orsinium which either take you too challenge one of the Public Dungeons or kill a challenging World Boss, was great, and gives it a lot of replay value and reason to return to the DLC after completing the quest lines. An idea like this could easily be implemented into Thieves Guild with things like a daily "Stealing Quest" where you'd be sent too steal a number of items, heavily guarded by difficult and challenging NPC's (of course) and rewarded for your actions with crates/boxes that contain loot, just like the Orsinium Dailies. Also, my idea for Dark Brotherhood dailies links back to the quests in Skyrim where you'd be sent too fulfill a contract by killing targeted people without getting caught. Players could head to major ESO cities, killing targets while trying not too catch the attention of Guards/Citizens of that city (Justice System).

Just a few of my ideas for this upcoming DLC, let me know what you think.

What would you like too see?

Nebthet78 · November 2015

No Bind on Pick Up Armor sets

whsprwind · November 2015

No RNG gear grinds
Token system for new gear

ajwest927 · November 2015

Allow the group leader to make someone a lieutenant like when the group need to spilt into a smaller group to scout the area in pvp.

Shadesofkin · November 2015

I would like to see a few fresh skills, and something that converts magikca to stam or health to stam (ala Spell Sym).

Another fresh set of quests, some general improvement in the drop system and a token system for the undaunted stuff would be nice.

Volkodav · November 2015

No more BoP. Maybe BoE,but nothing else.

RAGUNAnoOne · November 2015

Argonian buff

bedlom · November 2015

A proper Chat box for console, just like PC's.

MrDerrikk · November 2015

Shadesofkin wrote: »

I would like to see a few fresh skills, and something that converts magikca to stam or health to stam (ala Spell Sym).

This exists, but it's a Sorc exculsive (Dark Deal if I remember correctly).

PhatGrimReaper · November 2015

More active skills in the Vampire Skill Line.

Reliable & Predictable Magicka based Gap Closer for DKs

V16 Gear Vendor Items in Cyrodiil

Enodoc · November 2015

If dailies are added for TG and DB, they need to add dailies to MG and FG as well.

Enodoc wrote: »

Fighters Guild dailies for destroying Mini-Anchors:
Something akin to the existing Dark Fissures, but in the style of Oblivion's Oblivion gates. You are tasked to go to a Dark Fissure location where instead of a Fissure, a Mini-Anchor has spawned (anyone who is not on the quest would just see a Fissure, as normal), and you need to defeat the enemies there. Once defeated, activate the pinion to be pulled into a delve-sized Coldharbour area. Fight through and defeat the boss to reach the Mooring Pinion. In addition to the immediate quest reward, you can stock up on Mooring Pinions to exchange for rewards. The assets for Mini-Anchors already exist; I think they are (or were? not sure if they're still around) part of a Dremora's spell arsenal.

Mages Guild dailies for collecting Lost Lore:
A quest to go recover a random lorebook (but not a purple one) from a delve. The book would be in a chest located behind the delve boss. In addition to the immediate quest reward, you also get some token that you can stock up on to exchange for rewards later on.

Enodoc wrote: »

What we also need are some solo dailies (that are interesting enough and rewarding enough to be worth repeating). All PvE-zone dailies at the moment (apart from Crafting) are for groups.
Fighters Guild Dailies: You're sent out to shut down a mini dark anchor. These could occur in the same random places as the existing dark fissures, but you need to go into Coldharbour to find the pinions (a la Oblivion's Oblivion Gates). If you're not on the quest, you get the standard dark fissure which disappears after defeating the boss. If you are, you get to enter the mini anchor after defeating the boss and experience a delve-sized dungeon on your way to the pinions. In addition to the standard reputation/experience/gold reward, you get to keep the Anchor Pinion, which can be exchanged for gear. The more you collect before you exchange them, the better gear you receive.

Mages Guild Dailies: You're sent to a delve in the region to recover lorebooks to be brought back and translated (a la Skyrim's Shalidor's Insights). If you're not on the quest, the delve acts like normal and the chest containing the book cannot be found. The chest would either be in the main boss room, or in a side room with a mini-boss. In addition to the standard reputation/experience/gold reward, you get a Gem Fragment, which can be exchanged for items. The more you collect before you exchange them, the better items you receive.

City Guard Dailies: (Not very interesting, but would give you a bit more gold and XP if you want to go grinding.)
[x] creature is harassing [y] location. Go and kill [n] of them.

[x] criminal has escaped and is hiding at [y]. Go and apprehend them.

[x] item has been stolen, and has been taken to [y]. Go and retrieve it.

[x] citizen has been kidnapped and taken to [y]. Go and rescue them.

The Justice System, Thieves Guild, and Dark Brotherhood would add some more opportunities for dailies.

Falconstar · November 2015

I'd like to see an improved NPC interaction. Please give us option to not have the camera jump, but instead, turn the NPC head to face our character or camera for first person mode. It will make a great improvement for the story narration.

Van_0S · November 2015

I am curious to know about the thieves passives/active abilities.
I hope there is a stealth active ability like cloak(NB).

terrordactyl1971 · November 2015

I want to see new skill line for TG and DB. I'd also like to see the justice system expanded to allow us to hunt down player thieves - or if you are a thief, to hunt down player bounty hunters.

Would be cool if the bounty increased on a player for each successful item they steal without being caught. Something interesting along those lines. Also a pvp arena would be good.

altemriel · November 2015

nooo, please no puzzles, I hate it!!!

more dailies, daily quests (yes a bit longer daily quests would be great), trial, dungeon, new motif (not BOP!!)

TomCarterESO · November 2015

bedlom wrote: »

A proper Chat box for console, just like PC's.

I agree, I personally don't play console too much myself (although I own ESO on PS4 too) but I believe games like Final Fantasy have a chat box on console too.

TomCarterESO · November 2015

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

More active skills in the Vampire Skill Line.

Reliable & Predictable Magicka based Gap Closer for DKs

V16 Gear Vendor Items in Cyrodiil

I agree, either make DK Empowering Chains a 100% chance too pull the target too you, or add a whole new gap closer in its place.

Kublakan · November 2015

Op, I like your suggestions. If we have the theives and the assassins coming, then I think we might have so novelties in area like stealth, contracts, bounties. Ide like to have a new role in this game, the bounty hunters...

TomCarterESO · November 2015

YurtTheSilentChief wrote: »

I am curious to know about the thieves passives/active abilities.
I hope there is a stealth active ability like cloak(NB).

If something like this happened, they have too make it so it's not as good as the Nightblade Cloak (because this is a NB unique ability) and could make it similar to Vampire Mist Form.

Wollust · November 2015

- fix the lag
- fix the FPS drops
- no (unnecessary) BoP
- actually useful dropped gear
- scaled up old gear to make different stuff viable again
- character balance
- no more artificial content through forcing ridiculous grinds
- higher CP cap
- no AoE cap
- dynamic ultimate
- incredibly hard, super frustrating longass trial to make groupplay viable again
- vet version of Vault of Madness (most beautiful dungeon in the whole game

)
- stuff to spend AP on (kinda done with scaling the old gear up)

I know I know, totally unreasonable and so on.

TomCarterESO · November 2015

@Wollust Remember all the gear will scale from Champion Points soon and not player level, when the Veteran Ranks are scrapped in Q1 2016, making all types of gear viable again.

Wollust · November 2015

TomCarterESO wrote: »

@Wollust Remember all the gear will scale from Champion Points soon and not player level, when the Veteran Ranks are scrapped in Q1 2016, making all types of gear viable again.

You are completely right and I stand corrected on that point I guess. Thanks.

Wait.. Is it confirmed that the VR are removed in Q1? I think I missed that one.

TomCarterESO · November 2015

@Wollust Yep, I think it was Rich Lambert on ESO Live who said the Veteran Ranks will be taken away with the next DLC, which is planned to arrive Q1 2016

DRXHarbinger · November 2015

I'd like to be able to take the black sacrement. If I get ganked by some fool who fights like a coward then I can pay the DB like 50k to offer it out and then he can be hunted by anyone for say 25k cut. Could be abused but it would be expensive and quite hard. Plus I want a new summon. I want to call out sithis or that annoying guy from oblivion who became a ghost in skyrim "tonight is a good night....for MURDER" iirc

Or a PVP quest to slay the current emporer. DB doesn't like them historically.

Thieves guild couldn't give to *** about tbh. Unless I get the skeleton key at the end of it. It was the only reason we suffered those quests. And Chillrend lest we forget. Epic sword.

ItsGlaive · November 2015

No RNG chest lotteries.
No BOP gear.
No fragmented/bound crafting motifs and mats.
Would be cool with token system though.

Yes to the quest ideas

Sausage · November 2015

To become a leader of Outlaw Den is probably my wildest dream, each Outlaw Den would have own leader. They made it happen in Skyrim, why not here too. Also I hope Outlaw Den's Global Search service, if you need something bad, you can use that service to help you, they send you the coords and you go buy the item.

HeroOfNone · November 2015

I would like to see armor sets given specifically through stealing it. It can be a hard to find armor or heavily gaurded, but I want a piece of armor that says "I'm a good thief because I got this thing that you can only get by stealing"

=3

nimander99 · November 2015

Actual theft and contract kill dailies would be friggin awesome! It would be a huge fail if we didn't get these with the DB/TG DLC considering we already have the mechanics.

Taleof2Cities · November 2015

More uses for negative potion (poison) effects would be nice ... and more uses for mushroom alchemical ingredients.

Tryxus · November 2015

Skooma

Jura23 · November 2015

What do you guys think they will rise CP cap?

My tip is 60.