No more Glenumbra!! YAY!! (Cadwell's Silver)

Volkodav · November 2015

I am sooo happy! I did the EB first time around,killing Molag Bal and hitting VR1.Loved it.BUT when I talked to Cadwell,I had no clue what was about to happen to me when I said sure! I'll see what its like for my enemies.
I wound up in Glenumbra where I had done my first character and didnt know any better.I made a second one in EB and wound up in Glenumbra again.I deleted him,and went on to do AD.Been there every since. This time,I made it to vet in AD,and wound up in lovely Stonefells. Man,made me happy.I can run that place so easily,but now it will be a challenge at V1 levels.
I be happy as a clam!!
(I bet if I did DC all the way through,Id wind up in AD)

AngryNord · November 2015

You always go through the other two zones counter-clockwise. E.g. for EP, it is first DC, then AD, for DC it is first AD then EP, for AD it is first EP then DC.

MrDerrikk · November 2015

I highly, highly recccomend doing every singel quest in Silver + Gold, so that when they transfer VR to CP you'll have done them once and will then never have to go through them again!

Moonshadow66 · November 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

I am sooo happy! I did the EB first time around,killing Molag Bal and hitting VR1.Loved it.BUT when I talked to Cadwell,I had no clue what was about to happen to me when I said sure! I'll see what its like for my enemies.
I wound up in Glenumbra where I had done my first character and didnt know any better.I made a second one in EB and wound up in Glenumbra again.I deleted him,and went on to do AD.Been there every since. This time,I made it to vet in AD,and wound up in lovely Stonefells. Man,made me happy.I can run that place so easily,but now it will be a challenge at V1 levels.
I be happy as a clam!!
(I bet if I did DC all the way through,Id wind up in AD)

I know the feeling^^ I'm an EP fan but have one DC character; with her I got the EP zones in "gold".
This was more challenging than EP in low level zones (which I've done between 8 and 13 times), I had my skills maxed when I arrived there, and the zones were pretty much empty (even in Mournhold/Deshaan!), so I got to harvest and loot all the stuff I knew already because no one was around to get it before I did.
But the best of all: I felt like being "back home" again

TheShadowScout · November 2015

Ahh, the joys of cadwells... its sometimes relly interesting to see how things are at veteran ranks. Especially fights you remember because this or that character had trouble with them - sometimes its quite surprising how different characters do. Sometimes not.

Even though with the new reduced expee costs for veteran ranks one is pretty sure to overlevel everything a bit... my recent toons tend to hit V5 at the end of the V3 area or so abouts... meaning cadwells will almost certainly take me to V14 in the end without much trouble, i expect.
Much nicer then back in the 1400000 xp-per-v-rank times, where I often had to do a little cyrodil dailies just to raise the rank so I could use next regions dropped gear...

One less then grand thing for the rotation is for EP crafters - since AD has no dwemer ruin in their last zone where you can farm scrap, pages -and- expees. But that#s not much of a biggie anyhow I suppose (besides, my crafting alt is DC, and got all the dwemer stuff learned by now)

Anyways, revisiting the zones can be a lot of fun too, and every so often you may just discovere a little detail you didn't notice the first time. Even if its just some mages guild book lying in a corner or something.

But it can also be fun to see just how much you can do on your lonesome sometimes... with storyline regions, you can always come and solo some dolmen or boss when overlevel. Hadrder in cadwells to do that... thus you often learn more if you do those as training exercise...

AlienSlof · November 2015

I've just finished Cadwell's gold on my main and now he has all of Wrothgar to enjoy. I won't mind if none of my other VR characters have to do it - once is quite enough! I've done all the quests (including even the smallest side quests), got Master Angler on him as well, but I was very pleased to get it all done, not least as he did the last two zones as v16 so was massively overpowered for the content.

Volkodav · November 2015

There will always be something either new or missed for me to find. I am just so very glad I dont have to go back to Glenumbra ever again.Whew.

MornaBaine · November 2015

I'm DC and yeah, Silver is AD for me, which I loathe with every fiber of my being. It has completely destroyed any desire I have to level past VR1 on any of my alts. I hate ZOS so much for this!

Seriously ZOS:

Egonieser · November 2015

I hate AD zones and quests. The landscape is horrid, hard to navigate, too many obstacles and all the quests are either about pompous elves or treehugging hippies and drug addicts. I've avoided gold zone on all my EP toons, been leveling up in Cyrodiil instead. Did it once on my AD sorc, not doing it again.

TheShadowScout · November 2015

When the going gets to AD, the tough keep going!

But I have to admit, I kinda like the AD zones least of all... but what one doesn't do for reaching lofty heights of veteran rankings...

Volkodav · November 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

I'm DC and yeah, Silver is AD for me, which I loathe with every fiber of my being. It has completely destroyed any desire I have to level past VR1 on any of my alts. I hate ZOS so much for this!

Seriously ZOS:

Boohoo.I happen to feel that way about DC.So,to each their own.

Merry · November 2015

I just got gold on my first char and had a blast doing it. Every part of it. But I love questing so....

M

CherryCake · November 2015

I didnt get out of AD yet, still only level 41, I cant wait to get out of it as well but at the same time I will miss the forests and the hippie things xD How is Glenumbra? I am quite excited to visit it!!! (I dont want to create another character until I reach vr with my main one)

Volkodav · November 2015

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

I didnt get out of AD yet, still only level 41, I cant wait to get out of it as well but at the same time I will miss the forests and the hippie things xD How is Glenumbra? I am quite excited to visit it!!! (I dont want to create another character until I reach vr with my main one)

You will always be able to return to Auridon.Even during Silver and Gold.You can go to anywhere you went to before.You will wind up in Stonefalls when Cadwell gives you the choice question. To get to Glenumbra,you'll need to start a new character in Stonefalls for Cadwell to send you there after you kill Molag Bal.
As to what is Glenumbra like? I'm sure you'll love it.
For some reason I dont.But others here love it.Lol! And,thing is,I dont know what I hate so much about it.It is huge,so many quests everywhere,but I just dont like them.I think the reason I cant stand it is because I love the community in Auridon.It always feels so friendly,with people all over the place.Always willing to fight along with you in a delve,even if they dont group with you.But most will. When I got into Silver and had to go there with another character,I was so sad and lonely because it was mostly unpopulated.Stonefalls isnt real friendly either,but it is the easiest I have found for leveling a new Character.I can run through it so quickly.Great fun quests though.It's my 2nd fave place to be.Well,3rd,now,with Orsinium being 2nd .
Please,those of you who love DC,remember,it's just my feelings about it,not telling anyone not to like it. :}

MrDerrikk · November 2015

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

I didnt get out of AD yet, still only level 41, I cant wait to get out of it as well but at the same time I will miss the forests and the hippie things xD How is Glenumbra? I am quite excited to visit it!!! (I dont want to create another character until I reach vr with my main one)

Glenumbra is awesome! I always start in DC, and it just feels homely. AD is too airy-fairy for me personally, but I like EP almost as much as DC (mainly because of all the Morrowind/Skyrim memories)

Volkodav · November 2015

MrDerrikk wrote: »

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

I didnt get out of AD yet, still only level 41, I cant wait to get out of it as well but at the same time I will miss the forests and the hippie things xD How is Glenumbra? I am quite excited to visit it!!! (I dont want to create another character until I reach vr with my main one)

Glenumbra is awesome! I always start in DC, and it just feels homely. AD is too airy-fairy for me personally, but I like EP almost as much as DC (mainly because of all the Morrowind/Skyrim memories)

Odd.I didnt get anything Morrowind or Skyfall from DC.I just got Medieval Knight feels with a few Werewolves and Vampires thrown in.T
Morrowind's Giant Mushrooms,Ahs Mountain,and stuff are actually in EB. That's where I get all the Morowind feels.I still play that game.I love it more than any other game. :}

CherryCake · November 2015

Oh no, so that means that, if you start in Auridon, you wont ever get sent to Glenumbra? that sucks a bit, I thought that once you are VR you can go pretty much anywhere! Thank you very much for the explanation!

I agree, Auridon is awesome, people are really friendly!
At the main wayshrine in Auridon you can often find people making a "party" and having a good time together, and if by some chance you meet them later in the game you make a party again and get all excited! xD (by making a party I mean, we dance, fall to the ground, show our skills and use the weirdest emotes we can), and its true, even if you are not in a group and if you end up having a tough time somewhere, there is almost always someone that jumps in to help, plus people seem to really know how to do team work, there were quite a few times when I finished dolmens only with one other person (alone I can only finish dolmens by half then I die because I suck at gaming xD)

Going to see if today I will finally be able to get the last main mission and then move on to Stonefalls!!!

MrDerrikk · November 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

I didnt get out of AD yet, still only level 41, I cant wait to get out of it as well but at the same time I will miss the forests and the hippie things xD How is Glenumbra? I am quite excited to visit it!!! (I dont want to create another character until I reach vr with my main one)

Glenumbra is awesome! I always start in DC, and it just feels homely. AD is too airy-fairy for me personally, but I like EP almost as much as DC (mainly because of all the Morrowind/Skyrim memories)

Odd.I didnt get anything Morrowind or Skyfall from DC.I just got Medieval Knight feels with a few Werewolves and Vampires thrown in.T
Morrowind's Giant Mushrooms,Ahs Mountain,and stuff are actually in EB. That's where I get all the Morowind feels.I still play that game.I love it more than any other game. :}

Ah, I meant those vibes from EP as those are the areas. I like DC because I've always liked medieval areas and also Bretons even in the old games.

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

Oh no, so that means that, if you start in Auridon, you wont ever get sent to Glenumbra? that sucks a bit, I thought that once you are VR you can go pretty much anywhere! Thank you very much for the explanation!

I agree, Auridon is awesome, people are really friendly!
At the main wayshrine in Auridon you can often find people making a "party" and having a good time together, and if by some chance you meet them later in the game you make a party again and get all excited! xD (by making a party I mean, we dance, fall to the ground, show our skills and use the weirdest emotes we can), and its true, even if you are not in a group and if you end up having a tough time somewhere, there is almost always someone that jumps in to help, plus people seem to really know how to do team work, there were quite a few times when I finished dolmens only with one other person (alone I can only finish dolmens by half then I die because I suck at gaming xD)

Going to see if today I will finally be able to get the last main mission and then move on to Stonefalls!!!

You can go to both other zones, where you go to the first one in Cadwell's Sliver, and the next in Cadwell's Gold. They're worth all playing through once just for the experience

Volkodav · November 2015

MrDerrikk wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

I didnt get out of AD yet, still only level 41, I cant wait to get out of it as well but at the same time I will miss the forests and the hippie things xD How is Glenumbra? I am quite excited to visit it!!! (I dont want to create another character until I reach vr with my main one)

Glenumbra is awesome! I always start in DC, and it just feels homely. AD is too airy-fairy for me personally, but I like EP almost as much as DC (mainly because of all the Morrowind/Skyrim memories)

Odd.I didnt get anything Morrowind or Skyfall from DC.I just got Medieval Knight feels with a few Werewolves and Vampires thrown in.T
Morrowind's Giant Mushrooms,Ahs Mountain,and stuff are actually in EP. That's where I get all the Morowind feels.I still play that game.I love it more than any other game. :}

Ah, I meant those vibes from EP as those are the areas. I like DC because I've always liked medieval areas and also Bretons even in the old games.

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

Oh no, so that means that, if you start in Auridon, you wont ever get sent to Glenumbra? that sucks a bit, I thought that once you are VR you can go pretty much anywhere! Thank you very much for the explanation!

I agree, Auridon is awesome, people are really friendly!
At the main wayshrine in Auridon you can often find people making a "party" and having a good time together, and if by some chance you meet them later in the game you make a party again and get all excited! xD (by making a party I mean, we dance, fall to the ground, show our skills and use the weirdest emotes we can), and its true, even if you are not in a group and if you end up having a tough time somewhere, there is almost always someone that jumps in to help, plus people seem to really know how to do team work, there were quite a few times when I finished dolmens only with one other person (alone I can only finish dolmens by half then I die because I suck at gaming xD)

Going to see if today I will finally be able to get the last main mission and then move on to Stonefalls!!!

You can go to both other zones, where you go to the first one in Cadwell's Sliver, and the next in Cadwell's Gold. They're worth all playing through once just for the experience

How can you go into Glenumbra if you start out in AD? I havew tried to get to the desert in that zone,but cannot.When I started in Stonefalls,I was automatically sent there by Cadwell.You have to start in Glenumbra or Stonefalls to get to Glenumbra.If you're in AD,you cant.
It would be so cool if we could just go everywhere,but for some reason,once you start Cadwell's,you are locked into a certain zone.

Enodoc · November 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

MrDerrikk wrote: »

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

I didnt get out of AD yet, still only level 41, I cant wait to get out of it as well but at the same time I will miss the forests and the hippie things xD How is Glenumbra? I am quite excited to visit it!!! (I dont want to create another character until I reach vr with my main one)

Glenumbra is awesome! I always start in DC, and it just feels homely. AD is too airy-fairy for me personally, but I like EP almost as much as DC (mainly because of all the Morrowind/Skyrim memories)

Odd.I didnt get anything Morrowind or Skyfall from DC.I just got Medieval Knight feels with a few Werewolves and Vampires thrown in.T
Morrowind's Giant Mushrooms,Ahs Mountain,and stuff are actually in EP. That's where I get all the Morowind feels.I still play that game.I love it more than any other game. :}

Ah, I meant those vibes from EP as those are the areas. I like DC because I've always liked medieval areas and also Bretons even in the old games.

SerenaAnastasia wrote: »

Oh no, so that means that, if you start in Auridon, you wont ever get sent to Glenumbra? that sucks a bit, I thought that once you are VR you can go pretty much anywhere! Thank you very much for the explanation!

I agree, Auridon is awesome, people are really friendly!
At the main wayshrine in Auridon you can often find people making a "party" and having a good time together, and if by some chance you meet them later in the game you make a party again and get all excited! xD (by making a party I mean, we dance, fall to the ground, show our skills and use the weirdest emotes we can), and its true, even if you are not in a group and if you end up having a tough time somewhere, there is almost always someone that jumps in to help, plus people seem to really know how to do team work, there were quite a few times when I finished dolmens only with one other person (alone I can only finish dolmens by half then I die because I suck at gaming xD)

Going to see if today I will finally be able to get the last main mission and then move on to Stonefalls!!!

You can go to both other zones, where you go to the first one in Cadwell's Sliver, and the next in Cadwell's Gold. They're worth all playing through once just for the experience

How can you go into Glenumbra if you start out in AD? I havew tried to get to the desert in that zone,but cannot.When I started in Stonefalls,I was automatically sent there by Cadwell.You have to start in Glenumbra or Stonefalls to get to Glenumbra.If you're in AD,you cant.
It would be so cool if we could just go everywhere,but for some reason,once you start Cadwell's,you are locked into a certain zone.

Not for Silver, but you go to Glenumbra for Cadwell's Gold as an AD member.

MrDerrikk wrote: »

I highly, highly recccomend doing every singel quest in Silver + Gold, so that when they transfer VR to CP you'll have done them once and will then never have to go through them again!

It'll be very interesting to see what they do to Cadwell's once VR are removed. Personally, I'm hoping that they will allow you to choose which one to go to (or at least make Gold start immediately after Silver starts, and not once Silver is finished).

Volkodav · November 2015

I sincerely plan on NOT getting to Gold then. XD I just dont like DC. I tried to get into playing through it,but cant do it.So my one other Vet is kind of lying fallow.

MrDerrikk · November 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

It'll be very interesting to see what they do to Cadwell's once VR are removed. Personally, I'm hoping that they will allow you to choose which one to go to (or at least make Gold start immediately after Silver starts, and not once Silver is finished).

I do like the idea of having them both open at the end of the main story, but I guess choosing would make it slightly better.

Enodoc · November 2015

MrDerrikk wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

It'll be very interesting to see what they do to Cadwell's once VR are removed. Personally, I'm hoping that they will allow you to choose which one to go to (or at least make Gold start immediately after Silver starts, and not once Silver is finished).

I do like the idea of having them both open at the end of the main story, but I guess choosing would make it slightly better.

I came up with a proposal for how this could work back when they first suggested they were going to remove VRs:

Enodoc wrote: »

Cadwell
Assume you are a member of the Daggerfall Covenant for this section.
Cadwell's Silver will begin as it does now. following the end of the Main Quest. But:
As soon as you arrive in the starter city of Vulkhel Guard, the following text appears on-screen: New Task: Cadwell's Silver - Experience the Aldmeri Dominion.

Cadwell's Silver is then removed/hidden from the Journal. This is so that the quest is not there hanging over you if you don't want to do it. (Progress tracking in Cadwell's Almanac proceeds as normal.)

A projection of Cadwell invites you to visit the Aldmeri version of the Harborage to return to your own alliance. There's a projection of him in the Aldmeri Harborage as well, with the same dialogue he would have if you met him in the normal (Daggerfall) Harborage.

Activating the Light of Meridia in the Aldmeri Harborage returns you to the Daggerfall Harborage, where Cadwell is waiting... with a new quest for you.

Cadwell's Gold will begin as soon as you return to the Daggerfall Harborage after your initial trip to the Dominion lands. Cadwell's dialogue here ("Well, you've experienced two of the three alliances. Care to finish the set?[...]") does not need to be changed, as you have still technically experienced two alliances.
As before, as soon as you arrive in Davon's Watch, you get a New Task: Cadwell's Gold - Experience the Ebonheart Pact.

Cadwell's Gold is removed/hidden from the Journal to avoid clutter.

You now have access to both Cadwell areas without being required to complete one of them first, aside from visiting the first city and leaving again.

Returning to any version of the Harborage gives you access to the Light of Meridia. Activate it whenever you like to be given a choice of alliances to visit. eg, press E for Dominion, F for Pact or X for Covenant.

If either section of Cadwell's Almanac is completed, you see Task Completed: Cadwell's Silver/Gold - You have completed the Dominion/Pact section of Cadwell's Almanac. At this time, the relevant quest reappears in the Journal for you to turn in to Cadwell in the Daggerfall Harborage. Turn in works as it does now.

Jitterbug · November 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

I'm DC and yeah, Silver is AD for me, which I loathe with every fiber of my being. It has completely destroyed any desire I have to level past VR1 on any of my alts. I hate ZOS so much for this!

Seriously ZOS:

Yeah it feels weird.
Quest no. 1: "Kill all the Daggerfall scum!"
"Uhm, dude... there's something you should know about me..."