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Would you quit if vet levels were removed or would you quit if they were not removed?

LostRedden
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I'm curious to how many more people would quit if the Veteran System was removed over the one's who would quit if they were not removed and visa versa. I think personally I would quit if veteran ranks were removed, if it weren't done to my satisfaction.

I've got v16, I've put my grind in for the v16 gear. If they just bumped everyone down to 50 and all the gear was bumped with it, then I would definitely quit, it would be a slap in the face, as would another raise in the level cap would be a slap in the face.
Edited by LostRedden on November 18, 2015 7:02PM
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Would you quit if vet levels were removed or would you quit if they were not removed? 175 votes

Would you quit if the Veteran Ranks were removed? (Why?)
8%
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Would you quit if the Veteran Ranks are not removed? (Why?)
9%
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It doesn't matter, you plan on leaving regardless. (Why?)
9%
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I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
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  • Slurg
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    I can't vote in this poll. You only have extremist options here.
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  • Xendyn
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    How about...

    *shrug*

    none of the above apply

    Little in this game would make me take such drastic, tantrum-type action except maybe serious P2W in the store but I doubt I'll be here forever, either.

    I have 2 VR16s, a VR15, a VR14, a VR1 and a couple lowbies. Considerably more gearing to worry about than you.
    They'll get there when they get there and not a minute before ;)
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  • hrothbern
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Nobody knows how this removal will be done and what consequences it will have.

    But I am going to stick anyway to this game.
    Not because the removal is yes or no a storm, but because I enjoy the game :)
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  • Asherons_Call
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    Who cares? Why do people think this is even an issue? So it might be called level 65 instead of VR15...
  • Artjuh90
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    Would you quit if the Veteran Ranks were removed? (Why?)
    can't anwser either. i think vet levels make the game more balanced then cp. Removal of them will bring some issues especially when it comes to crafting and those who are max vet level at that time (like vet 16 atm). This because a vet 16 who needed way more exp to reach this hight of level would be placed at the same level as a vet 1. ofc the vet 16 would have gathered more cp but there could become issue vs people haveing 4 of 5 vet 16 and no low level ats vs some people with like 8 lower level vet levels. how are you going to make it fait for the one with several vet 16 and how are you going to use the crafting mats above vet 1.
    really curious how they are going to implement this, i'll wait my time but let's be honest year to 6 months back vet ranks would be removed with orsinium patch so i have no illusion they will be removed any time soon
  • nimander99
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    It would have to be pretty catastrophic to drive me away from meh favorite game...
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  • Gidorick
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    I think it depends on HOW they're removed.
    What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
    That's right... Horse.
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  • LostRedden
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    Would you quit if the Veteran Ranks were removed? (Why?)
    They said somewhere on the forums that they would be talking about the vet levels in late 2016, so it will probably be sometime in 2017 before any actual change comes about.

    I just don't want to keep leveling characters to v16 if all the work is for nothing. (I know I'm playing an MMO and that in the end it's all for nothing.) I want to keep playing and will keep playing as long as they keep adding new content, but I don't like to think about earned rewards being taken away and in my opinion v16 is a reward.
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  • NateAssassin
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    I'd rather them not be removed, just because it gives me a sense of earning the rite to use better gear, instead of getting level 50 which takes no effort. Regardless I'd still play.
    Edited by NateAssassin on November 18, 2015 7:32PM
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  • Dexter411
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    It doesn't matter, you plan on leaving regardless. (Why?)
    I am sure they will not remove Veteran Ranks in 2015.
    Why leaving this game? They will raise cap or it will be Vr18 or Vr20 but they will do it, and while grinding my character i got bored of using same abilities.(Not to mention farming good sets from vet dungeon bosses or random drops)
  • kojou
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Not sure I care one way or the other about Vet ranks specifically. As far as I'm concerned they can stay in, but I won't cry if they are removed.
    Playing since beta...
  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Who knows what the future may hold for it is unwritten.

    I see no reason, one way or the other, that this would effect my decision to stay or go.

    New games may attract me. But very few things will drive me away (stares at loading screen).
  • KewaG
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    Slurg wrote: »
    I can't vote in this poll. You only have extremist options here.

    I vote this option.
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  • NobleNerd
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    Slurg wrote: »
    I can't vote in this poll. You only have extremist options here.

    +1 this.

    What kind of poll is this? At least give better choices.

    At this point with the Veteran Ranks I have little issue with them. With only 850k xp per level and increased xp earned across the board in Vet zones I am satisfied with how they work.

    What I would like to see is a better option for Vet zones. Cadwell's Silver and Gold is not the best option for "end game" questing content. I really do not like having to repeat content and call it end game. If I want to experience the other faction story I would just create an alt. The Vet levels need to have new story and content and before you say "We have Orsinium now", Orsinium is not designed as end game Vet content (and that is good). Right now we don't even have Trials that are true end game (possibly when the new Trial hits Q1 we will see all of them scaled).
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  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Personally, I'd rather the Vet Ranks stay.

    I enjoy the feeling of attaining a new Vet Rank, even more when it gets me into a new tier of equipment that I can craft. I love the Questing and the design of the Vet Ranks makes me feel as if I'm actually earning the added benefits of a new Vet Rank (though I know it's digital content, RNGesus, and it actually amounts to nothing more than entertainment).

    I'll stay with my favorite game whether the Vet Ranks stay or go, but as I said, I'd rather that they stay. What matters to me more is; if the Vet Ranks are definitely going to be removed, I'm more concerned about how they're removed, and what happens to my characters in the aftermath.
    Edited by Uriel_Nocturne on November 18, 2015 8:02PM

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  • hrothbern
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    LostRedden wrote: »
    They said somewhere on the forums that they would be talking about the vet levels in late 2016, so it will probably be sometime in 2017 before any actual change comes about.

    I just don't want to keep leveling characters to v16 if all the work is for nothing. (I know I'm playing an MMO and that in the end it's all for nothing.) I want to keep playing and will keep playing as long as they keep adding new content, but I don't like to think about earned rewards being taken away and in my opinion v16 is a reward.

    Good point !

    How will leveling go of alts between Vet 1 and Vet 16? What will be the benefit?

    The CP is account wide. The vet level that disappears is character bound.
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  • Tamanous
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    I already keep quitting because of Vet levels. It forces players into playing a leveling path. There is little freedom in this game.

    It is further emphasized by the addition of Orsinium. It is a very good zone with a great story. It offers a decent challenge and choice of where I wish to go and when. Now that I have completely most of it I returned to the zone I MUST go through in order to get my skill points and walk through the content in easy mode.

    I once again log in and lose interest within 30 minutes and likely won't play past this month's sub.

    The entire game should be like Orsinium. ZOS is shooting itself in the knee binding players to a level path in a game that should be about freedom of exploration. I know for a fact this is the majority view. Stats prove it.

    They keep saying they will remove Vet levels. Time to man up and prove it and let us know what to expect. Getting to 50 for a toon is annoying already and I sure as hell don't want to go through another leveling path that separates players from content all over again especially when it is also tied to the pvp experience.
  • Artjuh90
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    Would you quit if the Veteran Ranks were removed? (Why?)
    getting a toon up to level 50 wont take you more then 2-3 days if you grind through it?
  • phbell
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Need a 5th option for "Wait and see."

    I Have expressed my opinion all over these forums and am growing weary of the topic. I say leave Vet Ranking alone and quit catering to those whiners that want the leveling without doing the work. If a person cannot find enjoyment in building character levels while following [what I think are] engaging storylines, then maybe this game isn't for them.

    If Vet rankings are eliminated the malcontented will simply find something else to complain about.
  • Tonturri
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    I will grow further and further away from the game the longer Veteran Ranks remain in the game. I love my alts and they keep me playing. Making it a massive pain in my magnificent arse to level an alt to cap severely limits my interest in the game. At the very least, a catch up mechanic would be nice. I like how WoW did heirlooms.
    phbell wrote: »
    Need a 5th option for "Wait and see."

    I Have expressed my opinion all over these forums and am growing weary of the topic. I say leave Vet Ranking alone and quit catering to those whiners that want the leveling without doing the work. If a person cannot find enjoyment in building character levels while following [what I think are] engaging storylines, then maybe this game isn't for them.

    If Vet rankings are eliminated the malcontented will simply find something else to complain about.
    Pardon if I cannot find enjoyment in doing a story that was almost boring the first time I did it, not to mention I already did it twice, or that by the time I got through 1-50 (which I really don't mind all that much), I'd find VR1-16 agonizing. It'd be less agonizing if I could skip right to 50 and start on the Silver/Gold quests.

    I have two VR16s, a VR10 and a VR4, all at various stages in Silver/Gold. I see no justification for anyone saying 'go through that all again just to get to the content you actually want to do and enjoy'.

    I won't deny that I agree with the idea that a player's first character should have to go through all that...but the second, third, fourth, etc? Nooooo.

    Lastly, there appears to be the idea that 'people will always find something to complain about'. I think it is flawed to lump everyone together. People are -already- complaining about other stuff...I believe (and hope O.o) that the people complaining about leveling speed would...actually go back to playing the game. There is, I don't think, a linear progression of complaining. In my experience, I've found no one that goes

    "Okay, I'm going to complain super duper hard about this one issue...and ONLY this issue...until it's fixed. Once it's fixed, I'll go complain about this next issue and stick with it for the next five months, then move on to another thing that irritates me."

    In WoW and on ESO I've heard 'first ZOS does this and [you] complain, then ZOS reverses it and [you] still complain! Ugh! Idiots!" - yet they don't take into consideration the possibility that the people who were complaining at first are not the same people who are complaining about the reversal.

  • newtinmpls
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Its a game.

    Sounds like a lot of peeps are totally not aware of that.

    Take a chill pill, for heaven's sakes.
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  • Reznique
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    It doesn't matter, you plan on leaving regardless. (Why?)
    Game lacks any content (except for vMA which is single player)

    Most friends/guidlies already left

    If i want to quest and play on my own, i'd rather play a good game then ESO

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  • Nifty2g
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    Would you quit if the Veteran Ranks were removed? (Why?)
    Been around for too long already an established system if you remove it, it'll break the game not only that all the gear and items will be made odd, no thanks
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  • Tamanous
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    Artjuh90 wrote: »
    getting a toon up to level 50 wont take you more then 2-3 days if you grind through it?

    Bullsh**. The average time to 50 by the VAST majority of players if far, far beyond 2-3 days (PROVEN BY STATS!!!). Try doing that without xp buffs playing, LISTENING TO STORY, managing inventory, leveling crafting, actually talking to players, participating in groups from time to time, etc while playing 3-4 hours a day TOPS.

    You hardcore grinders who corrupt the entire principle behind the game to try reach end game while ignoring 90+% of the game's actual design need to enter reality.

    We are not talking about how fast it takes to get somewhere. We are talking about the experience one has WHILE getting there.

    Posts like your explains a hell of a lot about the current state of mmos.
    Edited by Tamanous on November 18, 2015 10:26PM
  • ThoraxtheDark
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Opinions opinions, better off playing the game than reading everyones opinion on the game.
  • Rayste
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Although, I really think that removing vet ranks is a mistake. There are many other routes they could take.
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  • Nestor
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    I know I am probably an iconoclast here with this, but I really don't care about levels or how they are defined. All I care about is can I make my character stronger over time, or change builds to do things differently. As long as I can do that, they can call it Rank A, Rank B etc. Heck, they could remove character levels all together and have things defined with skill levels if they can make that system work and provide progression and diversity.

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  • BlackguardBob
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    Sounds to me that the OP wants to jump off but is waiting until somebody pushes him so it will be their fault. lol
    Edited by BlackguardBob on November 19, 2015 12:01AM
  • JD2013
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    I'm going to weather the storm, and staying forever.
    Staying here either way. A massive online Tamriel, man. Just .... Staying.
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  • SoulScream
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    It doesn't matter, you plan on leaving regardless. (Why?)
    Lag is so bad in pvp I only play occasionally and am just waiting for Camelot Unchained beta.
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