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Magicka Users - Cost Reduction or Recovery?
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Edited by Kammakazi on November 18, 2015 1:11AM Magicka Users - Cost Reduction or Recovery? 118 votes
Cost Reduction
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Recovery
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MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭RecoveryNeeds a both option, but I normally prefer to stack recovery as the passives from CP for recovery are better. Still need at elast some cost reduct though...I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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Totalitarian✭✭✭✭✭Cost ReductionAs a Templar, I rely on spamming Puncturing Sweep. So I rely on cost reduction. But if I ever get enough CP to fill out the cost reduction, then I go onto magicka regen.PC NA CP 531+
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭Needs a Both option. :-)
I was following an older thread on this very subject, and folks had sound arguments on both sides..
Also doesn't it depend a bit on your race..
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✭✭✭✭✭Im torn. With cost reduction, as someone pointed out in this forum, as you increase the amount of cost reduction you get deminishing returns. This is because the cost reduction takes place one at a time after each other (simple way to put it)
With recovery the problem I see, is if you do run out then no matter what the return is, you gotta wait 2 seconds. This can cause death. Some would say that proper resource management would ensure this doesn't happen, however there are many DK tanky build types that wait for this exact moment (by making the fight last that long) and burst for the eventual kill.
Obviously both is the right answer, but I know OP is looking for more than that.
I guess logically, in the long run, recovery would be more beneficial. It takes place the moment you cast your first spell just like cost reduction but doesn't have the deminishing returns.0 -
Komma✭✭✭✭✭Cost ReductionIf you are talking cp I am filling up regen first with some in cost reduction. I like to put cost reduction on my rings and spell dmg on the other piece.
As a healer there are many ways to get magicka back but in the heat of battle I can spam big heals for a very long time.
On jewelry you get more for your enchant by going cost reduction.
So yes both are important but you can get by with 1200 regen if your cost reduction is sufficient.Kohma Kozzy-cr160-Stamblade
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Karamis_Vimardon✭✭✭✭Cost ReductionWhile reduction does have diminishing returns the higher the value, it also applies every time a skill is used as opposed to every 2 seconds. For example, over 2 seconds let's say you use 3 skills (Easily done) with a reduction of 100 the equivalent recovery is 300. Think you can get a 200% recovery value bonus?
Reduction on jewelry, 3:1 ratio for Magician/Arcanist has worked wonders for me, mind you this is with a Templar so Channelled Focus helps out (Pays for itself with first tick at 0.5 seconds).PC NA
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Zlater✭✭✭Cost ReductionBoth have their place. Cost reduction is superior mid fight, not just because you are fighting, but also because there are many other ways to restore magicka: Spirit siphon, Elemental drain, Pots, Enchants, Engine set etc
However in between fights, or in short fights where there is more stam usage for defending and kiting etc, regen is preferred.
Just remember a sign of bad magicka management skill is not only when your pool is consistently low, but also when it is consistently high.Edited by Zlater on November 18, 2015 1:57AMAsk for an invite to the greatest network of guilds ever. Redfur Trading, Redfur Exchange and Redfur Army!
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✭Both; cost reduction lets you last longer before running out, recovery helps you when you've run out, and somewhat during the fight too. I stack cp into cost reduction and then wear a recovery glyph (and stack cp into recovery).Edited by FriedEggSandwich on November 18, 2015 3:14AMPC | EU0 -
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✭cost reduction on my healer don't need more magicka regen with that resto staff passive ;D0 -
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✭✭✭✭There are many factors that will make each decision more effective but as a general rule it is better to go cost reduction at low CPs and magic recovery at max CPs. They really are close enough that the distinction doesn't merit much of a discussion to anyone other than an absolute min/maxer.Permanently banned from the forums for displaying dissent: ESO - The Year Behind
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✭✭✭Cost ReductionCost Reduction gets diminishing returns, recovery doesn't.
Hey @Nifty2g , do you know of a resource that explains the diminishing returns of cost reduction?Rest in Peace:
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Speely✭✭✭✭Cost ReductionCost Reduction until there aren't as many options/I have most of them and then Recovery. Aka "both," but cost reduction first and hardest. I always use The Atronach to help with sustain until I have the passives to handle it without. Happens at different times depending on class and build.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Id say you want both but one may way more than another depending on set bonus and mundus stone with racial passives.-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭✭Depends on your build. If you mainly relay on recovery for ressource management, you should increase that, if you mostly relay on skills like siphoning attacks or elemental drain, then cost reduction is better.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Cost reduction in cp until the point of diminishing returns, then regen. Spell power on jewelry.Battle not with monsters, lest ye become a monster, and if you gaze into the abyss, the abyss gazes also into you. ~Friedrich Nietzsche1 -
well this is the guy that got us into cp cap in the 1st place. and I vote for spell damage (:
[Moderator Note: Edited quote to match moderated version]Edited by ZOS_Brett on November 18, 2015 11:09AM0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I always go for a bit of both... fighting the resource drain at two fronts as it were I guess...0 -
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✭✭RecoveryI put the most in recovery but like 10 points in reduction. On jewelry I tend to put spell damage.0 -
Zlater✭✭✭Cost Reduction@Personofsecrets It's a teeny bit crusty now, but its still very current. At least I'm pretty sure this is what you are looking for.
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WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭All 3 spell power. Why? Because recovery can come from your armour set bonuses, CP and mundus and cost reduction from CP.PC EU1
