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NO WAY TO MAKE MONEY THIS PATCH

Multavi
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hey im guessing like most of you of this patch who enjoyed doing content and would love trying to get your gear plus get that gear u can make some extra money on not to farm to sell just to make a prophit to suppose your repair cost your potion use and so on. with this latest update only really way to make money is to farm tolvar stones and to get the new motifs sinces the only new content raid wise is Maelstrom Arena everything is BOP sooo i love and enjoy that place soo much but since ive started im down about 100k in repairs and pots.. and no way to make my money back anyyone else feel they got gipped this patch with selling armor and wpns and jewlery
  • Elder_III
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    Yes, I am liking the gameplay, lore/story, and scenery in Orsinium very much. However, the economy is quite limited now with precious few items of any significant interest to put on the market. As viable options we have Crafting Mats (upgrade items especially), Motif pages/chapters, and..... recipes? We need more sets to be Bind on Equip not Bind on Pickup. This was how the game worked for the first 18+ months and I don't believe the B2P change would be harmed by keeping the old system of gear. Encourage people to play, don't discourage them.
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  • Vyle_Byte
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    You do know why its all BOP, yes? $$$$$. Period. Not moneys for us, moneys for ZOS. This, in my humble opinion, is to make purchasing the dlc (or subbing) required if you want the new stuffs.

    "Oh, you like this set? Yesssss it looks very nice, doesn't it? Give us all your moneys and you can have it Today!"
    (my lame impression of ZOS on BOP for an entire zone of content) lmao
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  • Alucardo
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    Vyle_Byte wrote: »
    You do know why its all BOP, yes? $$$$$. Period. Not moneys for us, moneys for ZOS. This, in my humble opinion, is to make purchasing the dlc (or subbing) required if you want the new stuffs.

    "Oh, you like this set? Yesssss it looks very nice, doesn't it? Give us all your moneys and you can have it Today!"
    (my lame impression of ZOS on BOP for an entire zone of content) lmao

    Sadly I think you hit the nail on the head. What other good reason could there be for BoP items?
  • Casdha
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    The one thing that actually helps is folks wanting to make VR16 gear and it costing so much in materials. I've made almost 100k this week on mats alone. It also helps that I like to farm mats to get myself sleepy after getting off of work.

    Not the kind of gold some folks like to make, but it is enough to serve my purposes. I could have made a lot more if I weren't saving up to make some stuff for myself.
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  • AFrostWolf
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    Icantunderstandwhatyouaretryingtosay.
  • MrBeatDown
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    Im too poor to run V M A. We dont have a way to generate gold anymore, so most people cant even afford to run it. Plain and simple.
  • Snickers1
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  • Flak
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    Running the latest content should earn you money, not cost! I was very disappointed with the IC Dungeondrop being BoP, but I could understand since most of these Sets are very good. But now the new bad sets... they took it way too far.

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  • MrBeatDown
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    My Character is so poor, i cant afford to pay the 3k fee to change up my CP point distribution to play the tank role for a dungeon anymore, i got like 1200 gold to my name, after farming or grinding it takes all that plus some to do the repairs.
  • Belidos
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    Normally i'm happy no matter the change in the game, I play to have fun not turn it into a chore, but this change has kind have annoyed me, not because of the change itself but because of the sheer short sightedness of the move. People have been clambering for less BoP on the forum for months, even asking for ways to unbind existing BoP, and yet they this time they come up with a whole DLC where everything is BoP, to me it's a huge "screw your" to the players.
    Edited by Belidos on November 14, 2015 9:31AM
  • ekobmx
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    Your joking right? Ive made almost 2 million on motifs alone.

    Not to mention node farming. Selling silk/wood/ingots
    Edited by ekobmx on November 14, 2015 9:39AM
  • Belidos
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    ekobmx wrote: »
    Your joking right? Ive made almost 2 million on motifs alone.

    I know the OP is all about the making money of the change. But there's also the fact hat gear can't be traded around and with it all being RNG you might get a ton of items you don't need and nothing you want, but someone else gets a ton of the stuff you need be he/she doesn't. It would be nice to be able to swap and trade the gear. It's not just about the money aspect.

    As I said it doesn't really effect me, i'm not gong to even buy the DLC until I've competed almost all of the original content. What bothers me is that ZOS are actively doing the opposite of what a lot of people have asked for.
    Edited by Belidos on November 14, 2015 9:42AM
  • ShadowDisciple
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Vyle_Byte wrote: »
    You do know why its all BOP, yes? $$$$$. Period. Not moneys for us, moneys for ZOS. This, in my humble opinion, is to make purchasing the dlc (or subbing) required if you want the new stuffs.

    "Oh, you like this set? Yesssss it looks very nice, doesn't it? Give us all your moneys and you can have it Today!"
    (my lame impression of ZOS on BOP for an entire zone of content) lmao

    Sadly I think you hit the nail on the head. What other good reason could there be for BoP items?

    why do you need better reason....they need money...what would you like...just buy the box and play for years without giving in a dime??

    Cmon, ZOS is a company and its sole purpos eof existing is to make money. ofc BoP is a paywall, and thats a good marketing move by ZoS...30$....thats a few beers or a few packs of cigs...
  • sadownik
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    Alucardo wrote: »
    Vyle_Byte wrote: »
    You do know why its all BOP, yes? $$$$$. Period. Not moneys for us, moneys for ZOS. This, in my humble opinion, is to make purchasing the dlc (or subbing) required if you want the new stuffs.

    "Oh, you like this set? Yesssss it looks very nice, doesn't it? Give us all your moneys and you can have it Today!"
    (my lame impression of ZOS on BOP for an entire zone of content) lmao

    Sadly I think you hit the nail on the head. What other good reason could there be for BoP items?

    why do you need better reason....they need money...what would you like...just buy the box and play for years without giving in a dime??

    Cmon, ZOS is a company and its sole purpos eof existing is to make money. ofc BoP is a paywall, and thats a good marketing move by ZoS...30$....thats a few beers or a few packs of cigs...

    That would be great argument if ESO was the only b2p game, and if it didnt have the strong competition. Reality is, there are other f2p games and b2p games that handle the balance between getting their money and giving away to the players much better.
  • Docmandu
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    Multavi wrote: »
    hey im guessing like most of you of this patch who enjoyed doing content and would love trying to get your gear plus get that gear u can make some extra money on not to farm to sell just to make a prophit to suppose your repair cost your potion use and so on. with this latest update only really way to make money is to farm tolvar stones and to get the new motifs sinces the only new content raid wise is Maelstrom Arena everything is BOP sooo i love and enjoy that place soo much but since ive started im down about 100k in repairs and pots.. and no way to make my money back anyyone else feel they got gipped this patch with selling armor and wpns and jewlery

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  • Thalmor-Nordmaster
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    My Eyes hurt :|
  • mtwiggz
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    WTS First born child for 100k, PM please.
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    It's real easy to make money in ESO, one word: steal....

    lol
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  • indigology
    I mean I made a killing from motifs and recipes, grind the pub dungeons.
  • kyrowski
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    I'm having the same issue.

    I don't want to sell materials as I have 3 VR16's to outfit @ roughly 130-150 material per piece.
    I've blown whatever money I had speeding up the process by buying ore etc. and I'm not making any money from what I sell anymore. Looking at where I stand in the trading guilds I am still in the top 50 sales in all 5 guilds, so it looks like most are struggling.
  • Annalyse
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    While I don't find making money in the game to be problematic at all, I do agree that there should be less BOP items. There are things that I am unable to do for varying reasons, and I like the option of using the money I make in other ways to buy the items that I cannot farm myself.

    And I do not think it is a necessary thing to get people to buy the expansion. People play this game because they enjoy it - so, make an expansion that is exciting and fun, and people will buy it. Not to mention the fact that more people probably enjoy being able to sell new drops for high prices than they do getting BOP drops that they don't want or already have.
  • Flyzardi
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    @op and others,

    This is a l2p the market issue, not anything to do with new content, bop, or this patch in particular.

    Trade activity spiked like crazy the first couple weeks of IC because almost everything introduced in that patch was behind a pay/content wall, significantly better, and in high demand because it was new. Things that were being traded before dlcs are still being traded actively, you just probably won't be scoring a million gold over night anymore lol
  • Conquistador
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    All this BOP stuff is crap. The only reason why they've done this is so you are forced to buy the DLC if you want it. The only reason why laurels are BOP is because they are going to introduce crown laurels, just like the malachite. This game is spiraling downward from the 7 months I have been playing this ***.
  • poodlemasterb16_ESO
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    Elder_III wrote: »
    Yes, I am liking the gameplay, lore/story, and scenery in Orsinium very much. However, the economy is quite limited now with precious few items of any significant interest to put on the market. As viable options we have Crafting Mats (upgrade items especially), Motif pages/chapters, and..... recipes? We need more sets to be Bind on Equip not Bind on Pickup. This was how the game worked for the first 18+ months and I don't believe the B2P change would be harmed by keeping the old system of gear. Encourage people to play, don't discourage them.

    Where is your Guild Vendor? I see nothing on your site.
  • NobleNerd
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    Casdha wrote: »
    The one thing that actually helps is folks wanting to make VR16 gear and it costing so much in materials. I've made almost 100k this week on mats alone. It also helps that I like to farm mats to get myself sleepy after getting off of work.

    Not the kind of gold some folks like to make, but it is enough to serve my purposes. I could have made a lot more if I weren't saving up to make some stuff for myself.

    for the minimal stat increase for v16 gear it is not worth the time put in or money to make it. I am sticking with v15 right now.

    and yes the economy has changed since Orsinium, but I too am making more gold from selling raw materials for crafting now.
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  • Baconfat79
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    NobleNerd wrote: »
    for the minimal stat increase for v16 gear it is not worth the time put in or money to make it. I am sticking with v15 right now.

    Minimal is subjective. While the base stats might not be THAT different from V15 to V16, the real difference cones in the enchantments. Gold glyphs on V16 armor give considerably more than gold enchants on V15 armor, especially when you consider the total difference on all 7 pieces. It's substantial.
  • Casdha
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    NobleNerd wrote: »
    Casdha wrote: »
    The one thing that actually helps is folks wanting to make VR16 gear and it costing so much in materials. I've made almost 100k this week on mats alone. It also helps that I like to farm mats to get myself sleepy after getting off of work.

    Not the kind of gold some folks like to make, but it is enough to serve my purposes. I could have made a lot more if I weren't saving up to make some stuff for myself.

    for the minimal stat increase for v16 gear it is not worth the time put in or money to make it. I am sticking with v15 right now.

    and yes the economy has changed since Orsinium, but I too am making more gold from selling raw materials for crafting now.

    Actually I've not had a problem with my VR 14 gear and I agree about the VR 16 not being worth it. That said I do want to up grade my weapons but unless I run into more trouble than I get now, I'm gonna stick with my VR 14 armor. Heck I don't even keep it repaired half the time.
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  • Qyrk
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    I sold rubedo/silk/sanded ash as well as motifs. Made heaps for the last two weeks, amounting to almost 300k. Either you don't necessarily know how to make money with the current patch or you're just lazy.
  • Volkodav
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    I was unaware that Telvar stones are in Orsinium.
    Docmandu wrote: »
    Multavi wrote: »
    hey im guessing like most of you of this patch who enjoyed doing content and would love trying to get your gear plus get that gear u can make some extra money on not to farm to sell just to make a prophit to suppose your repair cost your potion use and so on. with this latest update only really way to make money is to farm tolvar stones and to get the new motifs sinces the only new content raid wise is Maelstrom Arena everything is BOP sooo i love and enjoy that place soo much but since ive started im down about 100k in repairs and pots.. and no way to make my money back anyyone else feel they got gipped this patch with selling armor and wpns and jewlery

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Punctuation

    Ewe.I can see that there really IS no punctuation.Not a single stop period or comma.The longest running sentence ever written,perhaps?
  • Sausage
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    They gotta sell you Thief DLC somehow right?

    I dont know what people are complaining, Im 2.5 mill richer after IC. I almost doubled my money in fact, just in 6 week or so.
    Edited by Sausage on November 15, 2015 4:52PM
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