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Should The Player Riding Skill Cap Be Raised
AFrostWolf
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So does anyone else think that the Player Riding Skill Cap needs to be raised?
Edited by AFrostWolf on November 13, 2015 9:18AM Should The Player Riding Skill Cap Be Raised 98 votes
Yes, Explain
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No, Explain
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Tors✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ExplainYes, when I ride this cap falls into my eyes and I tend to run into walls.
I vote +1 for a much higher riding cap, maybe a stiffer neck strap would do the job?Better late Than Pregnant....
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AFrostWolf✭✭✭✭Yes, ExplainI personally hate having to have Rapid's on one of my bar's just to move fast. Being able to use it has spoiled me. If the framework for faster horses exist in the game then I see no reason why we can't increase the cap. I'd also love more stamina and inventory space.1
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Artheiron✭✭✭No, ExplainNo, instead new skills and mounted combat should be added. They made this player riding skill change and removed old horse feeding system to sell their crown store mounts. This needs to be reverted too.0
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Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, ExplainHorse already running ridiculously fast. Looks stupid, but whatever. Don't raise though.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU1 -
Robotmafia✭✭✭No, Explainmaxed out mounts are really fast IMO... any faster would just be rediculous.. especially with speed buffRobot Who Owes Money: Look into your hard drive and open your mercy file!
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Moonshadow66✭✭✭✭✭
✭No, ExplainShadowDisciple wrote: »too fast already but that is just my opinion
That's also my opinion
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MrDerrikk✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, ExplainOnly for extra carry weight; the other two are fine as is.I have departed into the great unknown that is outside the game and the forums, and wish you well in your Tamriel adventures!
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willymchilybily✭✭✭✭No, Explaincant raise just one stat without raising the rest, and increasing disparity between a new player and old players in cyrodil i feel is a little detrimental tot he health of the game.Edited by willymchilybily on November 13, 2015 10:55AMPSN - WarpPigeon - Guild: TheSyndicate - EU, Ebonheart PactDragon Knight [Magicka] - 720 - StormproofNight Blade [Magicka] - 720 - StormproofSorcerer [Magicka] - 720 - Flawless ConquerorTemplar [Magicka] - 720 - StormproofDragon Knight [Stamina] - 720 - StormproofNight Blade [Stamina] - 720 - StormproofSorcerer [Stamina] - 7200 -
Tyrion87✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, ExplainJust remain it as it is, it's well balanced for me right now. More points would be too much, especially regarding the speed.Edited by Tyrion87 on November 13, 2015 11:07AM0 -
lolo_01b16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yes, ExplainI don't care how I get more inventory space, just need a way do deal with all the bind on pickup sets.2 -
Ourorboros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭A maxed speed mount is already so fast it is all too easy to ride past resource nodes instead of stopping on them. Imagine the top speed was that of Rapid Maneuvers. While this might be great for getting from point A to point B, it would make resource gathering even more difficult. As for more bag space, we've already had 3 major improvements to bag space. If you still can't manage your inventory, that's on you.PC/NA/DCBreton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
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Jeckll✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭No, ExplainAs many said before - Rapid Maneuver + Max Mount Speed is already close to too fast - it's bonkers.Jeckll has quit the game. Thanks for the great time.1 -
hrothbern✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes, Explainlolo_01b16_ESO wrote: »I don't care how I get more inventory space, just need a way do deal with all the bind on pickup sets.
BOP is needing more Inventory... fully agree
but increasing Bank Space would also be fine.
is a bit off topic of OP:No, instead new skills and mounted combat should be added. They made this player riding skill change and removed old horse feeding system to sell their crown store mounts. This needs to be reverted too.
But mounted combat would be awesome
Is a whole new dimension to PVP.
I think that such a PVP functionality should come with collision with enemy players (Shield Wall Heavy Infantery) and then Cavalry is needed for the fast flank manoevring including war drums and cavalry trumpets for more coordinated battles (Team Speak is perfect, but not for PUG's)
Something for over a couple of years?
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BlackEar✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ExplainExplain.Bjorn Blackbear - Master Angler - Collector - Black Market Mogul - Ebonheart Pact - Exterminatus - EU.
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Levo18✭✭✭✭Yes, ExplainMaybe not speed but bag space is always nice. Maybe change the saddle bags into a trailer if you reach 100 ? Haha0
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Kuroinu✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainMounts should have different caps depending on the type of mount it is. So you would train to ride the different types of mounts.
For example, at the Stable you would have these options:
Bears: Speed +30%/Stamina +60/Carry Capacity +60.
Senche: Speed +60%/Stamina +30/Carry Capacity +40.
Guar: Speed +40%/Stamina +40/Carry Capacity +30.
Horses: Speed +50%/Stamina +50/Carry Capacity +50.
Carry Capacity could stack so that you'd get a total of +180 inventory space once all Riding skill types have been maxed.
I also realise that many players care the most about speed, which leaves Bears, Guar and Horses less desirable. So perhaps Stamina should get more meaning to balance this out. From what I've noticed with Stamina is that it doesn't really matter when it runs out, many times I've used up all my mounts Stamina and I can still continue to sprint. I believe that once you run out of Stamina on a mount you should stop being able to sprint, just like if you were on foot.Edited by Kuroinu on November 13, 2015 12:00PM1 -
Ourorboros✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Riko_Futatabi wrote: »Mounts should have different caps depending on the type of mount it is. So you would train to ride the different types of mounts.
For example, at the Stable you would have these options:
Bears: Speed +30%/Stamina +60/Carry Capacity +60.
Senche: Speed +60%/Stamina +30/Carry Capacity +40.
Guar: Speed +40%/Stamina +40/Carry Capacity +30.
Horses: Speed +50%/Stamina +50/Carry Capacity +50.
Carry Capacity could stack so that you'd get a total of +180 inventory space once all Riding skill types have been maxed.
I also realise that many players care the most about speed, which leaves Bears, Guar and Horses less desirable. So perhaps Stamina should get more meaning to balance this out. From what I've noticed with Stamina is that it doesn't really matter when it runs out, many times I've used up all my mounts Stamina and I can still continue to sprint. I believe that once you run out of Stamina on a mount you should stop being able to sprint, just like if you were on foot.
You must have really liked the old riding system. The problem with your suggestion is that you cannot buy those assorted mounts with in-game gold. Any solution that REQURES spending crowns is unacceptable.PC/NA/DCBreton Sorcerer Maester.White - BB meets GoT >Master Crafter< { 9 Traits completed 4/23/15 }
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Kuroinu✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainOurorboros wrote: »Riko_Futatabi wrote: »Mounts should have different caps depending on the type of mount it is. So you would train to ride the different types of mounts.
For example, at the Stable you would have these options:
Bears: Speed +30%/Stamina +60/Carry Capacity +60.
Senche: Speed +60%/Stamina +30/Carry Capacity +40.
Guar: Speed +40%/Stamina +40/Carry Capacity +30.
Horses: Speed +50%/Stamina +50/Carry Capacity +50.
Carry Capacity could stack so that you'd get a total of +180 inventory space once all Riding skill types have been maxed.
I also realise that many players care the most about speed, which leaves Bears, Guar and Horses less desirable. So perhaps Stamina should get more meaning to balance this out. From what I've noticed with Stamina is that it doesn't really matter when it runs out, many times I've used up all my mounts Stamina and I can still continue to sprint. I believe that once you run out of Stamina on a mount you should stop being able to sprint, just like if you were on foot.
You must have really liked the old riding system. The problem with your suggestion is that you cannot buy those assorted mounts with in-game gold. Any solution that REQURES spending crowns is unacceptable.
I never played the game when the old riding system existed, I don't believe my suggestion is exactly mimicking that though.
I understand your point about the lack of availability of non-horse mounts. If only they'd put at least 1 of each type of mount available to obtain in game, this wouldn't be an issue.
I really do hate online game cash shops.Edited by Kuroinu on November 13, 2015 12:09PM0 -
Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainNo. But new skills should be added like @Artheiron said.
Hey @Artheiron, check out my thread Advanced Mounts Overhaul (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159507/advanced-mounts-overhaul-concept/p1) and it's sister thread, Tangible Mounts (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/165659/tangible-mounts-advanced-concept)What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
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TX12001rwb17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Yes, ExplainEven 60 speed seems a bit slow, however personally I'm more for the old way only instead we can have it so stats are species based as an example....
Horses should have 10% more stamina.
Guar's should increase your carryweight by 10% of its maximum while they are your active mount
Senche would be 10% faster then the other mounts.
An more things could be added....
Nightmare Courser could make you 10% more resistant to fire attacks while you are mounted on them
Frost Mare could make you 10% more resistant to Frost attacks while you are mounted on them
and so on.Edited by TX12001rwb17_ESO on November 13, 2015 12:34PM0 -
redspecter23✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainI think the cap on each ability is fine. I wouldn't mind if they added a 4th ability of some sort that was tied into riding skills but I'm also cool if they just leave it as is for the life of the game.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainUsing my main crafter who has max riding skills, when I also use RM, it makes him move so stupidly fast it's downright silly... although I do use it just to get to crafting stations faster. But on my main, I would never use max skills and RM because I never need to move anywhere THAT quickly. I think max riding skills are fine as they are.CP: 2078 ** ESO+ ** ~~ ***** Strictly a solo PvE quester *****
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Gidorick✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainI generally agree @TX12001rwb17_ESO, but how would that not be on the pay-to-win side of things being that the only way to get anything other than a horse is to buy them with cash in the crown store?What ESO really needs is an Auction Horse.
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TheShadowScout✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainI think the mount stats are decent enough as is. I mean, it does take half a year daily logins to max them anyhow... and you get enough for that.
I would much rather have more horse options in other regards... no changes in speed, stamina or capacity, but some special effect.
Like, I for one would love it is wild animals didn't aggro if you ride a bear (what wolf in his right mind would attack a fu... uhm... freakin BEAR???), or the mentioned possibility of increased fire resistance on nightmare and such...
If anything stat-related, some mounts might get a bonus in some terrain. Like, say, guar get a speed bonus in swampy terrain (aka shadowfen), senche in savannah (aka reapers march), etc.
Better hose equipment selections...
...yes, like those.No. But new skills should be added like @Artheiron said.
Hey @Artheiron, check out my thread Advanced Mounts Overhaul (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/159507/advanced-mounts-overhaul-concept/p1) and it's sister thread, Tangible Mounts (http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/165659/tangible-mounts-advanced-concept) 0 -
BabeestorGor✭✭✭✭No, ExplainRiko_Futatabi wrote: »Ourorboros wrote: »Riko_Futatabi wrote: »Mounts should have different caps depending on the type of mount it is. So you would train to ride the different types of mounts.
For example, at the Stable you would have these options:
Bears: Speed +30%/Stamina +60/Carry Capacity +60.
Senche: Speed +60%/Stamina +30/Carry Capacity +40.
Guar: Speed +40%/Stamina +40/Carry Capacity +30.
Horses: Speed +50%/Stamina +50/Carry Capacity +50.
Carry Capacity could stack so that you'd get a total of +180 inventory space once all Riding skill types have been maxed.
I also realise that many players care the most about speed, which leaves Bears, Guar and Horses less desirable. So perhaps Stamina should get more meaning to balance this out. From what I've noticed with Stamina is that it doesn't really matter when it runs out, many times I've used up all my mounts Stamina and I can still continue to sprint. I believe that once you run out of Stamina on a mount you should stop being able to sprint, just like if you were on foot.
You must have really liked the old riding system. The problem with your suggestion is that you cannot buy those assorted mounts with in-game gold. Any solution that REQURES spending crowns is unacceptable.
I never played the game when the old riding system existed, I don't believe my suggestion is exactly mimicking that though.
I understand your point about the lack of availability of non-horse mounts. If only they'd put at least 1 of each type of mount available to obtain in game, this wouldn't be an issue.
I really do hate online game cash shops.
I'd love it if 1 type each of guar, senche and bear was available as a quest reward.
I'd also bring back the old each breed was slightly better in 1 aspect.
Draft Horse +10 capacity etc.
So long as the Crown Store mounts also gave only a +10 bonus it wouldn't be PTW to me.
Your idea of bigger differences between the species of mount might work Riko but atm you've really stuck it to Guar. I'd want a system of different but equal (even if that didn't work in the real world
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✭No, ExplainRiko_Futatabi wrote: »Mounts should have different caps depending on the type of mount it is. So you would train to ride the different types of mounts.
For example, at the Stable you would have these options:
Bears: Speed +30%/Stamina +60/Carry Capacity +60.
Senche: Speed +60%/Stamina +30/Carry Capacity +40.
Guar: Speed +40%/Stamina +40/Carry Capacity +30.
Horses: Speed +50%/Stamina +50/Carry Capacity +50.
Carry Capacity could stack so that you'd get a total of +180 inventory space once all Riding skill types have been maxed.
I also realise that many players care the most about speed, which leaves Bears, Guar and Horses less desirable. So perhaps Stamina should get more meaning to balance this out. From what I've noticed with Stamina is that it doesn't really matter when it runs out, many times I've used up all my mounts Stamina and I can still continue to sprint. I believe that once you run out of Stamina on a mount you should stop being able to sprint, just like if you were on foot.
Mount Stamina matters mostly in PVP -- less Stamina one has, easier one is knock off the mount.
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Annra✭✭✭✭✭Yes, ExplainYes! Since everyone can easily follow and kill me on my full trained horse through bunny hopping, even when I ride with full speed plus rapid maneuver, my horse seems still way too slow.
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Digiman✭✭✭✭✭No, ExplainNo, the mount isn't an escape vehicle, it's to get you from one destination to another. There are already skills to improve mount movement as well.
The only possible advantage I see this helping is intial PvP, but then that would mean more new players have a greater daunting task in getting in the cap.
Considering it takes 20 hours for each rise or you can buy it straight from ESO crown store. Really only the people with money will profit from this.0
