Poll: Mundus Stones at Veteran level

hrothbern · November 2015

Which Mundus Stone do you use for your main character at Veteran level?
I am curious which Mundus Stones are not or hardly used nearing endgame.
Could perhaps lead to a discussion/suggestions which Mundus Stones could be wrapped up together (like has been done with The Steed), freeing up space for a new one.

Because the max choices of a poll are restricted to 10, I put a couple of Mundus Stones together.
For Twice-Born users: please pick your most important Mundus Stone.

MrDerrikk · November 2015

The Atronach: Magicka Regeneration or The Serpent: Stamina Regeneration

I need regen on my DK as everything is put into fire damage and health/magic

Asmael · November 2015

Heh, I use a bunch of alts and no real "main" character, so... Depends on what class, build (stam / mag), role (burst or sustained), current gear...

What Mundus (Mundii?) I would never consider (except perhaps for a troll build):
- Steed
- Lord
- Lady
- Lover
- Ritual

Currently:
- Stam DK burst oriented: Warrior
- Stam DK sustain oriented: Serpent (would consider Tower)
- Stam NB 1 burst oriented: Warrior (would consider Serpent)
- Stam NB 2 burst oriented: Serpent
- Magicka Sorc burst oriented: Atronach (would consider Mage)
- Magicka Templar sustain oriented: Atronach
- Magicka DK afk oriented: Atronach
- Magicka NB sustain oriented: Atronach

If my sustain permits it, I use food instead of drinks, and use a sustain-oriented mundus for balance. For instance, the stam DK (SnB / DW) I'm currently running is using Food for pretty huge damage increase and almost 7k extra HP, with a Serpent Mundus for about 1800 stam recovery (battle leveled - Cyrodiil).

EDIT: All those are for Cyrodiil, and I'm usually not running 50+ crit chance, so... Shadow is usually out, plus crits don't work on shields.

Flak · November 2015

The Thief: Critical Strike Chance

Thief and Shadow (TBS) on my Magicka NB

UltimaJoe777 · November 2015

I think you should have coupled similar Mundus effects together in 1 poll option to make room for all of them. That being said I run a different Mundus on all my alts that matches their build style.

Tyrion87 · November 2015

The Mage: Max Magicka or The Tower: Max Stamina

Does the Thief affect also spell critical chance? I've been using the Mage from the beginning but now the Thief seems to be the best choice for DPS magicka sorcerer.

hrothbern · November 2015

The Ritual: Healing

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

I think you should have coupled similar Mundus effects together in 1 poll option to make room for all of them. That being said I run a different Mundus on all my alts that matches their build style.

How do you mean?

Moonshadow66 · November 2015

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Does the Thief affect also spell critical chance? I've been using the Mage from the beginning but now the Thief seems to be the best choice for DPS magicka sorcerer.

I understand it as general crit chance, both weapon and spells.

Cîanai · November 2015

The Thief: Critical Strike Chance

Tyrion87 wrote: »

Does the Thief affect also spell critical chance? I've been using the Mage from the beginning but now the Thief seems to be the best choice for DPS magicka sorcerer.

Thief also affect spell crit chance, yes.

Septimus_Magna · November 2015

The Thief: Critical Strike Chance

Thief on my magicka sorc for pve, 11% spell crit is too good to pass up.
For pvp I use the Atronach.

lathbury · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

thief and shadow on my nb

dsalter · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

mine rotates between the theif and the shadow depending if i hit 50% crit on not

Xantaria · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

Anybody who does not use thief or shadow in PvE is bad at math and should feel bad.

Except full tanks.

zornyan · November 2015

Xantaria wrote: »

Anybody who does not use thief or shadow in PvE is bad at math and should feel bad.

Except full tanks.

Depends if you need more sustain

Shardaxx · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

I've tried Thief, Warrior and Shadow and still no idea which is the best for my character but seem to have settled lately on Shadow.

Digiman · November 2015

The Steed: Rund Speed & Health Regeneration

I played Elderscrolls since morrowind, because of that my mundus stone is always steed. I am just lucky it's a useful stone for my character.

Fat-Larry-Makes-All · November 2015

The Apprentice: Spell Damage

I'm just trying to get my spell-damage as high as possible. Something I'm failing at spectacularly.

Xantaria · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

zornyan wrote: »

Xantaria wrote: »

Anybody who does not use thief or shadow in PvE is bad at math and should feel bad.

Except full tanks.

Depends if you need more sustain

If you need more sustain as a PvE (group content) player you pick 1, 2 or even 3 cost reduction glyphs on your jewellery. You will never drop Thief / Shadow. They are WAY too good to drop them for anything.

Brrrofski · November 2015

Apprentice, Atronach and serpent are the 3 I have on my characters

Xantaria · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

Shardaxx wrote: »

I've tried Thief, Warrior and Shadow and still no idea which is the best for my character but seem to have settled lately on Shadow.

> 50% Crit --> Shadow
< 50% Crit --> Thief

Warrior is not a viable option.

Kas · November 2015

The Thief: Critical Strike Chance

the (imo) "correct" answer: every build / occasion is different and your munuds should be changed regularly.

Good rule of thumb:
Resource hungry build (dk tank spamming shield for stamina, BoL healer in PvP, stam class in pvp?)? sperpent or atronarch
not resource hungry? shadow if decent cs and non-templar or bewteen 90 and 400CP, thief if templar and enough CP for enough elfborn.
apprentice/warrior/mage can make sense in pvp if you have crazy regen already (which few players have), because you cannot crit enemy damage shields and you have to factor in impenetrable and the related c-passive

ADarklore · November 2015

The Warrior: Weapon Damage

Xantaria wrote: »

Anybody who does not use thief or shadow in PvE is bad at math and should feel bad.

Sorry, I'm not a scoreboard chaser, I play MY way and I prefer having more constant damage output than relying on crits for my Stam Sorc. I don't think that extra 12% Crit Damage is going to make or break success in the game- but for a min/maxer their ego probably couldn't handle the slight crit damage loss.

thelordoffelines · November 2015

That depends on what im doing.

nine9six · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

Crit DMG. To

Asmael · November 2015

Well, if you really want to calculate your DPS...

For stamina: ((Max stamina / 10.5) + Weapon damage) * ( 1 + (Critical chance * Critical damage))

30% Crit chance is 0.3, base crit damage is 50%, or 0.5. Best way to balance crits is to have the same crit chance as crit damage. For proof:

30% crit chance and 70% crit damage = 21% extra DPS
40% crit chance and 60% crit damage = 24% extra DPS
50% crit chance and 50% crit damage = 25% extra DPS
60% crit chance and 40% crit damage = 24% extra DPS
70% crit chance and 30% crit damage = 21% extra DPS

I do this once in a while, considering, also, that you can't crit shields, and a bigger pool means longer before running out of fuel (and great synergy with % based resource recovery tools, such as DK's helping hands).

Shardaxx · November 2015

The Shadow: Critical Strike Damage

Xantaria wrote: »

Shardaxx wrote: »

I've tried Thief, Warrior and Shadow and still no idea which is the best for my character but seem to have settled lately on Shadow.

> 50% Crit --> Shadow
< 50% Crit --> Thief

Warrior is not a viable option.

Thanks, Shadow seems to be working for me, re these calculations also have to consider that I use the cloak morph which guarantees a critical hit, and seem to crit from stealth with the bow all the time too, so that seems to make Shadow more favourable to me even if I'm slightly below 50% (altho at the mo, I'm over) because these calcs don't factor in auto crits. Agree on Warrior wasn't impressed when I tried it out.

hrothbern · November 2015

The Ritual: Healing

Xantaria wrote: »

Anybody who does not use thief or shadow in PvE is bad at math and should feel bad.

Except full tanks.

Which ones would you see as valuable for a tank?

worsttankever · October 2016

The Atronach: Magicka Regeneration or The Serpent: Stamina Regeneration

All the stones seem seem weak to me. Atronarch gives 210 Magicka regen, whereas the 2 piece bonus for crafted Seducer armor is 112 (53%). I'm starting to think Thief and Shadow are valuable because it's hard to get the same magnitude of effects elsewhere. Maybe true for Steed (run speed) and Ritual (healing) as well.

Edziu · October 2016

The Steed: Rund Speed & Health Regeneration

steed, orc for Swift Warrior passive, 120 CP into Lover for Wind Running and go full medium for Athletics skill

(Unlocks at The Lover Rank 120) Increases your Movement Speed by 2%. This applies to all types of movement.
Also increases Health and Magicka Regeneration by 10% while sprinting.

Swift Warrior
Increases your damage with melee weapon attacks by 4%
Reduces Sprint cost by 12% and increases Sprint speed by 10%

Glaiceana · October 2016

The Thief: Critical Strike Chance

As far as I know, this is the best for my build, Stam DK DD, using 2 handed and bow, 5 piece hundings, 3 piece night mothers, agility jewellry. I used to use The Warrior, but was told I'd do much better with The Thief, and it does seem to work

Pallio · October 2016

The Thief: Critical Strike Chance

Actually they should.make mundus stones like RNG, hit it and you get a random muds for 12 hrs until you can try again. Oh wait nvm, yeah that would be stupid, just like the current endgame RNG.

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