[PC/NA] Organized Raid Guilds Needed

_Chaos · November 2015

Hello Team,

I'm looking for organized guilds that would be willing to migrate to an under-populated server for prime time fights versus other raids.
Currently TF is a DC buff server, and Azuras is just painful to play during prime time.

If guilds such as Haxus, Rage, HK, GoS, Victorem, KH, Tertiary Meat, VE, SWP, and any others that take raiding seriously, get on the same server for prime time; I think we would all have a better experience. I'm curious to see what the latency of a server such as this would dish out as well. This idea will not work unless we have serious commitment from at least 2 raids per faction, so speak up if this is something you would like to try out for a week.

AZ was a mess last night, and frankly I can't see myself playing in a PowerPoint like that again tonight.

Thoughts? Opinions? Idea's? Please share!

Satiar · November 2015

On a purely unofficial level, VE should be down. Only reason we are on Azura is that our fights left Trueflame and thus we must chase. If there were another server with good, competitive action you wouldn't even need our commitment, we would simply show up.

If you want something more official, I'm down to talk with any other interested raid leads.

kevlarto_ESO · November 2015

The thing is you don't need a campaign locked or even three bars across to have great pvp, I have been in campaigns that were two bars across the board great fights a lot of people, and pretty much no lag, since we know the server cannot handle the huge amounts of people and the blobbing up, seems we the players are left with choices to either spread out and enjoy the pvp, or just give up as this seems like a problem ZOS cannot fix, and maybe a short coming of the megaserver technology, I am glad they are still trying to improve the performance but maybe we the players should do something so we can play and have fun.

I just wish they would have made pvp more of a factional gain than a personal gain, I really think if there was campaign and faction loyalty in game we would be having battles across more campaigns, I hate the fact the population of IC is figured into the main population bar this is misleading for how many people are out in Cyrodiil proper.

I just pvp with a small group of friends and everyday we are looking for where the action is to play and many times our only selection is Azura and most nights we end up logging of early due to the lag and just plain unplayable.

Good idea OP would be nice to get some action spread around.

Talcyndl · November 2015

I hereby predict that if this occurs, the lag will follow.

Putting aside somewhat higher skill levels, good party balance (read plenty of heals/purges) and the advantage of TS.....

The power of guild raid groups is that they bunch and spam AoE skills. If you bring a number of such groups to a server, it will lag.

Rylana · November 2015

Ill pass this on to Zaz when i see him. While I have no issue with the idea, its been hard to get the whole guild on board to pick a server lately. We are all spread out.

However keep in mind the zerg herds will eventually follow us wherever we go. "Us" meaning all the guilds mentioned.

_Chaos · November 2015

Rylana wrote: »

Ill pass this on to Zaz when i see him. While I have no issue with the idea, its been hard to get the whole guild on board to pick a server lately. We are all spread out.

However keep in mind the zerg herds will eventually follow us wherever we go. "Us" meaning all the guilds mentioned.

I'm aware that people will follow, and that's fine as long as we can spread pops out at prime time so the lag can be mitigated slightly. Even if guildies don't home there and just all show up at prime time for the good fights I think this could play out in everyone's favor. Thanks for passing on the message friend! As I said, this won't go into full swing until about 5-6 leaders can 100% commit to trying it out for a couple of days, two or three guilds in a dead server is just too slow of game play for my liking.

manny254 · November 2015

The ultimate problem is the population density through out a given 24 hour period. When we left true flame (during the time all ad switched to it) off hours where essentially one faction face roll capping the whole map. Thus leaving the campaign essentially dead until prime time of the next day. The problem is that a decent portion of our guild is Australian, and they want actual pvp when they get on to play. With this I do not necessarily mean large group pvp. They may only have a small group in that time, but if the map is dominated by one faction there isn't much pvp for them to have.

As irritating as the performance issues are there is always someone to fight, and the map actually flips back and forth between all 3 factions very regularly. I have also yet to see one faction hold the entire map+ all 6 six scrolls this campaign. I would be more inclined to find a way to get certain guilds to not stack multiple raids together at every battle.

_Chaos · November 2015

manny254 wrote: »

The ultimate problem is the population density through out a given 24 hour period. When we left true flame (during the time all ad switched to it) off hours where essentially one faction face roll capping the whole map. Thus leaving the campaign essentially dead until prime time of the next day. The problem is that a decent portion of our guild is Australian, and they want actual pvp when they get on to play. With this I do not necessarily mean large group pvp. They may only have a small group in that time, but if the map is dominated by one faction there isn't much pvp for them to have.

As irritating as the performance issues are there is always someone to fight, and the map actually flips back and forth between all 3 factions very regularly. I have also yet to see one faction hold the entire map+ all 6 six scrolls this campaign. I would be more inclined to find a way to get certain guilds to not stack multiple raids together at every battle.

Could the Aussies keep their current home/guests, and the crown of every guild just group ques at around 8:30 EST? They still get small scale action, and raid during prime time.

I'd like to try this as a trial run just to see how latency would play out, it would only require one member of every guild to group que into said campaign.

manny254 · November 2015

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

The ultimate problem is the population density through out a given 24 hour period. When we left true flame (during the time all ad switched to it) off hours where essentially one faction face roll capping the whole map. Thus leaving the campaign essentially dead until prime time of the next day. The problem is that a decent portion of our guild is Australian, and they want actual pvp when they get on to play. With this I do not necessarily mean large group pvp. They may only have a small group in that time, but if the map is dominated by one faction there isn't much pvp for them to have.

As irritating as the performance issues are there is always someone to fight, and the map actually flips back and forth between all 3 factions very regularly. I have also yet to see one faction hold the entire map+ all 6 six scrolls this campaign. I would be more inclined to find a way to get certain guilds to not stack multiple raids together at every battle.

Could the Aussies keep their current home/guests, and the crown of every guild just group ques at around 8:30 EST? They still get small scale action, and raid during prime time.

I'd like to try this as a trial run just to see how latency would play out, it would only require one member of every guild to group que into said campaign.

I still do not see how this would actually end up helping anything. Even if a few group leave there will still be the 2 huge guilds stacking multiple raids in AZ, and it will be hard for anyone to care about a campaign that is not their own. In essence it would just feel like we are playing in a dead server, and the most stand out thing will be pvdoor.

Alomar · November 2015

Problem is populations in Cyrodiil have dropped to such an extant since Orsinium there hasn't been even remotely significant pvp (high-locked pops) anywhere but Azura's except for a few brief hours on the weekend in TF. The amount of people in Cyrodiil among all campaigns has easily dropped 40-50% since pre-Orsinium.

Trueflame had the potential to be a great 2nd "main campaign" with huge amounts of AD who were used to steamrolling it except when GoS was around and K-Hole and LoM on DC. As our first month went on there was amazing fights with K-Hole and hard fought counter-zerg fighting against the 2-4 30+ AD groups that would run around. Yet, the AD population slowly withered away due to mountains of defeats and actually returned to Azura's where they had previously just left, just the 5th or 6th time a large portion of a faction has abandoned a campaign.

We were arguably the smallest hardcore daily pvp guild left in this game over the past several months, which made every uphill victory all the more satisfying. Yet, our numbers as well were hit with Orsinium and a lack of interest in a dying game so there's no question we are the smallest daily hardcore pvp guild playing in Azura's at this point. In other words I'm not interested in taking my 8-12 man groups to a campaign where every other enemy guild outnumbers us by 2-4x even if they're alone, unless other guilds from all 3 factions are onboard.

Unfortunately, the AD evacuation of TF doesn't give me much hope in this endeavor.

Glarin · November 2015

Relentless Order (A new AD PvP guild) has recently made the move to Trueflame. See you there!

hammayolettuce · November 2015

Alomar wrote: »

Problem is populations in Cyrodiil have dropped to such an extant since Orsinium there hasn't been even remotely significant pvp (high-locked pops) anywhere but Azura's except for a few brief hours on the weekend in TF. The amount of people in Cyrodiil among all campaigns has easily dropped 40-50% since pre-Orsinium.

Trueflame had the potential to be a great 2nd "main campaign" with huge amounts of AD who were used to steamrolling it except when GoS was around and K-Hole and LoM on DC. As our first month went on there was amazing fights with K-Hole and hard fought counter-zerg fighting against the 2-4 30+ AD groups that would run around. Yet, the AD population slowly withered away due to mountains of defeats and actually returned to Azura's where they had previously just left, just the 5th or 6th time a large portion of a faction has abandoned a campaign.

We were arguably the smallest hardcore daily pvp guild left in this game over the past several months, which made every uphill victory all the more satisfying. Yet, our numbers as well were hit with Orsinium and a lack of interest in a dying game so there's no question we are the smallest daily hardcore pvp guild playing in Azura's at this point. In other words I'm not interested in taking my 8-12 man groups to a campaign where every other enemy guild outnumbers us by 2-4x even if they're alone, unless other guilds from all 3 factions are onboard.

Unfortunately, the AD evacuation of TF doesn't give me much hope in this endeavor.

Why not recruit people and train them?

Makkir · November 2015

I have always enjoyed ideas like this and although I would not be able to participate myself, I think it is also a terrific idea for someone (in other games I played it was always the NAKED player) to strictly video the entire fight and upload to youtube for others to watch. In my past experiences, events like this always brought positive PR to the game and more players into PvP.

Rylana · November 2015

Took 10 GoS to Trueflame tonight after the Azura lag finally pissed me off enough to ragequit.

Found a few decent fights, and one really epic bleakers battle that ended with us getting just overwhelmed by both a solid organized group and a large quantity of randoms.

Trueflames native EP pop ... is kinda lacking. Theres Unruhs group and Slys group and the former being 1/4th the size of the latter is by far the more useful and workable with. To really bring some fire to Trueflame we would need someone on the caliber of Hijinx or Haxus along with GoS to do anything if I am honest.

I mean if id had a full 24 man, thats different, but between orsinium, fallout, and general burnout on the game, its hard to even get 12-15 together currently.

just too many blues on TF for that.

LazyLewis · November 2015

Rylana wrote: »

Took 10 GoS to Trueflame tonight after the Azura lag finally pissed me off enough to ragequit.

Found a few decent fights, and one really epic bleakers battle that ended with us getting just overwhelmed by both a solid organized group and a large quantity of randoms.

Trueflames native EP pop ... is kinda lacking. Theres Unruhs group and Slys group and the former being 1/4th the size of the latter is by far the more useful and workable with. To really bring some fire to Trueflame we would need someone on the caliber of Hijinx or Haxus along with GoS to do anything if I am honest.

I mean if id had a full 24 man, thats different, but between orsinium, fallout, and general burnout on the game, its hard to even get 12-15 together currently.

just too many blues on TF for that.

That fight at Ash though when DC almost lost Emp.....oh my ooooohhhh myy

Rylana · November 2015

LazyLewis wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Took 10 GoS to Trueflame tonight after the Azura lag finally pissed me off enough to ragequit.

Found a few decent fights, and one really epic bleakers battle that ended with us getting just overwhelmed by both a solid organized group and a large quantity of randoms.

Trueflames native EP pop ... is kinda lacking. Theres Unruhs group and Slys group and the former being 1/4th the size of the latter is by far the more useful and workable with. To really bring some fire to Trueflame we would need someone on the caliber of Hijinx or Haxus along with GoS to do anything if I am honest.

I mean if id had a full 24 man, thats different, but between orsinium, fallout, and general burnout on the game, its hard to even get 12-15 together currently.

just too many blues on TF for that.

That fight at Ash though when DC almost lost Emp.....oh my ooooohhhh myy

Yeah SWP's massive group showed up at the last minute out of nowhere, and actually threw GoS off our gameplan. Originally I was gonna by-the-book it and go up top, clear, back down, clear and cap, but they went upstairs so we went underneath. They did fine right until they pushed to us up front and ended up getting us wiped with them. If they had just stayed upstairs, we had total flag control, but they brought you guys down with them.

Then they didnt accept rezzes and we couldnt rez anyone when we had a chance. Bad miscommunication, we had both flags for about 3 seconds and then poof it was all gone in an instant. DC capitalized exactly when they needed to. Not the closest save ive ever seen, but still a damn close call. Five more seconds.

But right after that, EP zone sorta went into a frenzy and SWP quit on us completely. Expected my 10 man group to go back and take ash while they were scroll fishing. Yeah with what, 40 blues holed up in there by that point. >_> TF EP is gonna need a lot of work if im gonna be bringing any more groups over there.

That being said, no lag.

Ghostbane · November 2015

Rylana wrote: »

[SWP quit on us completely.

A cunning plan... that's what they want you to think.

mjspnrb18_ESO · November 2015

Interesting but unlikely to happen

_Chaos · November 2015

Solid consensus in this thread is that no one wants to try it, for whatever reason.
Keep in mind that this was just to be for prime time, and only one person of said guild would be required to group que the raid.

Thanks anyways guys. Lagzuras it is

ataggs · November 2015

I wish folks would get on board with this, playing in Azura is super sucky. Maybe we need one or two solid guilds to lure the others over?

mchermie · November 2015

K-Hole is usually on Trueflame during primetime

_Chaos · November 2015

mchermie wrote: »

K-Hole is usually on Trueflame during primetime

Unfortunately stacking VE and KH in the same dead server would just be prodding a dead horse... how was last night? I helped PvDoor Glade and Rayles before leaving to AS, don't know if EP was just letting us get our home keeps back or if no one was around to fight

Keiryan · November 2015

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Manoekin · November 2015

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

_Chaos · November 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

You and I both know that a lot of white girls will follow the raid groups. People are only playing AZ because it's the only one active. But yea I see what you mean, the first half hour of every raid will be taking back (*&@ing home keeps for two of the three factions

Jules · November 2015

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

You and I both know that a lot of white girls will follow the raid groups. People are only playing AZ because it's the only one active. But yea I see what you mean, the first half hour of every raid will be taking back (*&@ing home keeps for two of the three factions

Wait a minute. Whatsamatta w white girls?

_Chaos · November 2015

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

You and I both know that a lot of white girls will follow the raid groups. People are only playing AZ because it's the only one active. But yea I see what you mean, the first half hour of every raid will be taking back (*&@ing home keeps for two of the three factions

Wait a minute. Whatsamatta w white girls?

Nothing! The more the better really.
Quality is always preferred, but quantity is needed.

Manoekin · November 2015

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

You and I both know that a lot of white girls will follow the raid groups. People are only playing AZ because it's the only one active. But yea I see what you mean, the first half hour of every raid will be taking back (*&@ing home keeps for two of the three factions

Wait a minute. Whatsamatta w white girls?

Nothing! The more the better really.
Quality is always preferred, but quantity is needed.

Just get a mousetrap and put a pumpkin spice latte on it, you'll be swimming in them soon enough.

Jules · November 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

You and I both know that a lot of white girls will follow the raid groups. People are only playing AZ because it's the only one active. But yea I see what you mean, the first half hour of every raid will be taking back (*&@ing home keeps for two of the three factions

Wait a minute. Whatsamatta w white girls?

Nothing! The more the better really.
Quality is always preferred, but quantity is needed.

Just get a mousetrap and put a pumpkin spice latte on it, you'll be swimming in them soon enough.

Omg pumpkin spice my favvvvv!!!!! I so can't even right now.

Manoekin · November 2015

Jules wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

You and I both know that a lot of white girls will follow the raid groups. People are only playing AZ because it's the only one active. But yea I see what you mean, the first half hour of every raid will be taking back (*&@ing home keeps for two of the three factions

Wait a minute. Whatsamatta w white girls?

Nothing! The more the better really.
Quality is always preferred, but quantity is needed.

Just get a mousetrap and put a pumpkin spice latte on it, you'll be swimming in them soon enough.

Omg pumpkin spice my favvvvv!!!!! I so can't even right now.

See? Hooked one already.

*reels Jules in*

Ishammael · November 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Jules wrote: »

spenc_cathb16_ESO wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Keiryan wrote: »

I've basically been saying for months that TF should be the place to have competitive group vs. group organized PvP but everyone seems to shirk the notion and instead default to Azura's to cry about problems no one seems to want to take an active solution in fixing.

TF is far from a DC buff server, AD have actually been the ones taking over at night time when the server dies down so it trades off between whoever stays up later between AD and EP, which I know is a compelling argument. The only time it turns into a DC buff server is when we fail to get dethroned and everyone mulls about and complains until we go to sleep and dethrone us.

Just like I said a few days ago to most of you, if you think you're a top competitive guild, bring yourself and maybe one other 12-14 man guild for back up to TF for NA prime-time and just see how you can handle us. Granted that for Oceanic times no one can deny Azura's is better, but unless you put in the effort to populate another server then how can you expect anything to change eitherwise?

Unless of course @ZoS pulls some population analysis and realizes we only need 2 campaigns open.

Need more than GvG. I'm not there to pvdoor a keep and fight one group and be done with it.

You and I both know that a lot of white girls will follow the raid groups. People are only playing AZ because it's the only one active. But yea I see what you mean, the first half hour of every raid will be taking back (*&@ing home keeps for two of the three factions

Wait a minute. Whatsamatta w white girls?

Nothing! The more the better really.
Quality is always preferred, but quantity is needed.

Just get a mousetrap and put a pumpkin spice latte on it, you'll be swimming in them soon enough.

Omg pumpkin spice my favvvvv!!!!! I so can't even right now.

See? Hooked one already.

*reels Jules in*

Is your moustrap lethal?!