Maelstrom Arena is too hard...NERF IT!

gen_reynard2050 · November 2015

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why! why! why! I just want solo to complete the arenaaa!

Asmael · November 2015

Discussion

Maelstrom Arena is Elite Level, not Veteran
Maelstrom Arena. One Shots =/= Challenging Content
Maelstrom Arena is too hard...NERF IT!
The casuals have won...
Vet Maelstrom

Meanwhile...

(VIDEO) VET Maelstrom Arena Stage 9 Last Boss

I need more popcorn I think, I'm about to run out...

olsborg · November 2015

vet mode is too hard I agree. Even if you win it, you have to change from your normal effective build just to cater to a specific stage and you die alot of times, its not fun to respawn something to death.

Alcast · November 2015

It is doable, did it now on 2 Stam chars (I think I am still the only dude that actually completed it with stam) and it is ffreaking hard, no idea how even an "good" player can beat that stuff lol

If its too hard, grind up a Magicka Sorc and then easy mode.

OdinForge · November 2015

That's probably a good thing, why should you be able to face-roll Vet-Maelstrom with a crappy build.

You should invest effort and time into the content, to be competitive. It's not my type of content, so I'll never make leader-boards. Congrats to those that have completed it already, shame it probably will get nerfed.

CavalierPrime · November 2015

Just because you are failing doesnt mean you are a bad player. Look at it this way. You are a quarterback, you run past the line of scrimmage and throw a beautiful 80 yard touchdown pass. You have no idea why the referees called a penalty on you. "I just threw the ball 80 yards for a td, im an awesome qb! Refs suck!" Yeah but you had no idea you could only pass behind the line of scrimmage. Now you know, and now you will make all your beautiful passes behind the line and the touchdowns will count. Just keep playing until you know all the rules, then you'll be amazing!

Ezareth · November 2015

Alcast wrote: »

It is doable, did it now on 2 Stam chars (I think I am still the only dude that actually completed it with stam) and it is ffreaking hard, no idea how even an "good" player can beat that stuff lol

If its too hard, grind up a Magicka Sorc and then easy mode.

Fengrush beat it on his stam sorc last night and Sneaky Habanero on his Stam DK, both excellent players.

AlienSlof · November 2015

Let's not keep nerfing things. Too many things just keep getting nerfed and it just makes the game too easy.

Alcast · November 2015

Ezareth wrote: »

Alcast wrote: »

It is doable, did it now on 2 Stam chars (I think I am still the only dude that actually completed it with stam) and it is ffreaking hard, no idea how even an "good" player can beat that stuff lol

If its too hard, grind up a Magicka Sorc and then easy mode.

Fengrush beat it on his stam sorc last night and Sneaky Habanero on his Stam DK, both excellent players.

uhh okay, I thought Habanero is a Magicka DK.

I think stam Sorc is actually the easiest bc od Crit surge...gonna try later with Stam sorc, first gonna try with my badly geared Magicka sorc >.>

Sorcs have always the easy peasy way....lawl

Nirnrot · November 2015

I can't wait to try it when it comes to console! I saw your videos @Alcast do you think the Werewolf is needed with the Stam Sorc or does it just make it easier because of the damage and regen? I am currently not a werewolf, but after seeing your video, I am seriously considering it.

DisgracefulMind · November 2015

It's not too hard, it doesn't need a nerf. It has to literally be LEARNED. LEARN THE MECHANICS.

Spoonclay · November 2015

It's not hard, it takes time to learn the mrchanics and to make a build for it. If anything the normal mode is too easy.

SirDopey · November 2015

Alcast wrote: »

It is doable, did it now on 2 Stam chars (I think I am still the only dude that actually completed it with stam) and it is ffreaking hard, no idea how even an "good" player can beat that stuff lol

If its too hard, grind up a Magicka Sorc and then easy mode.

Sooo....who wants to grind a Magicka Sorc from zero to hero this weekend????

Tholian1 · November 2015

Spoonclay wrote: »

It's not hard, it takes time to learn the mrchanics and to make a build for it. If anything the normal mode is too easy.

Do vet if normal is too easy for you.

sagitter · November 2015

Vet is doable if you know perfect the mechanics, have a good build, and use the sinergies in the right moment. I did it first time after 7 hours. I did it second time, in 2.50 hours.

Spoonclay · November 2015

Tholian1 wrote: »

Spoonclay wrote: »

It's not hard, it takes time to learn the mrchanics and to make a build for it. If anything the normal mode is too easy.

Do vet if normal is too easy for you.

And that is what I do.
I probably should have added "too easy compared to vet".

notimetocare · November 2015

Roll a magicka sorc and all your problems will go away.

Snickers1 · November 2015

This is my first ever complaint towards content in this game.

Lower the damage from stage effects (whirling blades A2, lightening water A3, Poison A4 etc)

My sorc is strong enough to kill the mobs and bosses, though i get f**cked because of enviromental effects, its just stupid at this point.

Also, up the normal difficulty to 60% of current veteran difficulty.

EDIT: I lied, i sent about 80 bugreports and feedback during beta

Dymence · November 2015

edit because thread was necro'd

Flak · November 2015

I m very sure they ll nerf it, just look what they did with vWGT/vICP.
I think the major problem wird this “hardcore“ Solo Content is the imbalance between classes, just have a look at the leaderboards how many Sorcs and NBs finished it compared to DKs and Templars. Good DPS makes it alot easier and sadly that is hard to do with these two classes, unless you are a top player like Alcast.
But I like the challenge, the only stage they should change is no. 6, it's alot luck, even if you know the strat perfectly.

Playing NB btw, failed two times on last boss

Moonshadow66 · November 2015

Today I've tried the Arena for the first time. Everything was doable but then I kept dying in stage 5, at least 5 times in a row. As a Sorcerer, I had not enough stamina to dogde out of the swarms towards an obelisk, every single time it got me there.

I don't even know if I did vet or normal.. so I got a question: where can I set it to vet or normal? Or, when I'm vet myself already, isn't the dungeon automatically set to veteran difficulty? Really, I don't know much about dungeons and trials..

Flak · November 2015

You change it in the group window, like any other dungeons, on normal mobs are v15 and on vet v16 btw.

Reznique · November 2015

I dont want it to be nerfed.

Every day I improve and get further and further on the arena, im not too stressed about rushing it. I only have 200 CP and yet i got to the final stage today (magicka sorc ofc, im not a masochist to play stamina). With everything in the game ruined- Cyrodil, IC, Trials etc there is no challenging content, except for vMA.

The conent is a week old and people cry because they cant stomp through it like in Skyrim. There is nothing different between normal and vet mode lorewise. So "casuals" may be happy with the normal version.

Atzel · November 2015

Do you know if others can do it and you cannot what that means ? You are simply weaker than them and complain about it!

Moonshadow66 · November 2015

Flak wrote: »

You change it in the group window, like any other dungeons, on normal mobs are v15 and on vet v16 btw.

Thank you so much for the reply, this is really helpful! I just checked the few screenshots I took in there, it seems I was trying veteran difficulty (the mobs were VR16)^^ So next time, normal it is! Thanks again, really appreciated

Nikkor · November 2015

Alcast wrote: »

It is doable, did it now on 2 Stam chars (I think I am still the only dude that actually completed it with stam) and it is ffreaking hard, no idea how even an "good" player can beat that stuff lol

If its too hard, grind up a Magicka Sorc and then easy mode.

how many champion points do you have?

Asherons_Call · November 2015

Atzel wrote: »

Do you know if others can do it and you cannot what that means ? You are simply weaker than them and complain about it!

the dark side is strong with this one

Dracane · November 2015

I am against PvE nerfs usually.
But reducing the damage dealt by monsters and environment in there is usefull.

Monsters hit too hard in my opinion. Most builds can't even play offensive, because if you don't roll dodge, block or refresh shields every second, you're going to be one shotted by almost everything. 20-40k hits aren't rare in there.
This is more than the health of most PvE players in the game with 1 hit.

I want the pressure to stay. But right now, it will be too much for most players. I think, it's a matter of practice and getting hardened by the challenge. So on the other hand, maybe it should stay as it is, as I like getting hardened to improve myself. But I found it extremly hard on my Sorcerer, had the hardest times with it

I don't understand how this leaderboards came to be. Must be on my end then.
But the damage of auto attacks from monster needs to be reduced slightly, in order to take some pressure. That's all

Snickers1 · November 2015

Dracane wrote: »

I am against PvE nerfs usually.
But reducing the damage dealt by monsters and environment in there is usefull.

Monsters hit too hard in my opinion. Most builds can't even play offensive, because if you don't roll dodge, block or refresh shields every second, you're going to be one shotted by almost everything. 20-40k hits aren't rare in there.
This is more than the health of most PvE players in the game with 1 hit.

I want the pressure to stay. But right now, it will be too much for most players. I think, it's a matter of practice and getting hardened by the challenge. So on the other hand, maybe it should stay as it is, as I like getting hardened to improve myself. But I found it extremly hard on my Sorcerer, had the hardest times with it I don't understand how this leaderboards came to be. Must be on my end then.
But the damage of auto attacks from monster needs to be reduced slightly, in order to take some pressure. That's all

20-40k hits are rare for NPCs but the enviroment effects hit that hard if you're not careful. However getting the "dont die" achievement is farfetch for even the most skilled players. If the enviromental effects were lowered, more people would be able to enjoy the run but it would still be very challenging, and still end-game content.

sagitter · November 2015

Dracane wrote: »

I am against PvE nerfs usually.
But reducing the damage dealt by monsters and environment in there is usefull.

Monsters hit too hard in my opinion. Most builds can't even play offensive, because if you don't roll dodge, block or refresh shields every second, you're going to be one shotted by almost everything. 20-40k hits aren't rare in there.
This is more than the health of most PvE players in the game with 1 hit.

I want the pressure to stay. But right now, it will be too much for most players. I think, it's a matter of practice and getting hardened by the challenge. So on the other hand, maybe it should stay as it is, as I like getting hardened to improve myself. But I found it extremly hard on my Sorcerer, had the hardest times with it I don't understand how this leaderboards came to be. Must be on my end then.
But the damage of auto attacks from monster needs to be reduced slightly, in order to take some pressure. That's all

I don't want it nerfed, better solution would be another difficulty level between normal and veteran, with same drop as vet but just a bit less % dropchance and no leaderboard.

RAGUNAnoOne · November 2015

No Nerf November!