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Vet Maelstrom Arena All Bossfights - Stamina NB

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Had the easiest time with Stam NB out of all 4 stam classes...
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Edited by Alcast on November 7, 2015 2:51PM
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    Nicely done laddie:}
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  • Scyantific
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    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.
  • Alcast
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    Scyantific wrote: »
    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.

    There is only 2 things I consider broken in the vMA:
    Stage 7 on bossfight when you have to get into blue bubble and then Flower explodes you cant get out = rekt
    Stage 9 on bossfight Crematorial guard just reks you way too hard as stamboy


    Still, Magicka Sorc and NB have a way easier time in there than ANY other class or setup...
    Edited by Alcast on November 6, 2015 1:56PM
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  • CP5
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    Nice videos but i'm wondering, how well would someone do not running DW+2H on a stamina build here?
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    CP5 wrote: »
    Nice videos but i'm wondering, how well would someone do not running DW+2H on a stamina build here?

    What else you want to run?
    Sword n Board is 100% useless
    Bow is crap since 1.6
    Edited by Alcast on November 6, 2015 2:19PM
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  • Soleya
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Had the easiest time with Stam NB out of all 4 stam classes...

    https://youtu.be/C7BPQNHDHFI

    Nice job.

    Would you be willing to post your gear and stats? I play a stamina NB and I'd like to compare a bit to see what I'm doing wrong.
  • Ezareth
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    Alcast wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Nice videos but i'm wondering, how well would someone do not running DW+2H on a stamina build here?

    What else you want to run?
    Sword n Board is 100% useless
    Bow is crap since 1.6

    How is sword and board 100% useless? Defensive Stance is easily the most powerful stamina ability I can think of in VMSA outside of Vigor. So many boss mechanics are reflectable and mobs are constantly being stunned by it plus it is cheap as hell. There may be some Arenas where you would want dual wield or a bow over Sword and Board since Rally makes 2hander too necessary but the final fight almost seems designed for Sword and board.

    The daedroths are also easy to fight by circling around them as they breath and using dodge roll. Hell I used these tactics to fight them far more on my sorc than using a damage shield to try and "tank" it which almost always gets you killed or drains your magicka when you can't afford that.
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  • Elijah_Crow
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    I run 2H/DW as well, but it looks like you are hitting harder and taking less damage than I do in many of those fights. Can you post the gear you were using and champion points please?
  • Alcast
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Had the easiest time with Stam NB out of all 4 stam classes...

    https://youtu.be/C7BPQNHDHFI

    Nice job.

    Would you be willing to post your gear and stats? I play a stamina NB and I'd like to compare a bit to see what I'm doing wrong.

    check out this post, there everything is explained:
    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/229469/vet-maelstrom-arena-with-stamina-classes-explanation-gear-skills#latest
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Nice videos but i'm wondering, how well would someone do not running DW+2H on a stamina build here?

    What else you want to run?
    Sword n Board is 100% useless
    Bow is crap since 1.6

    How is sword and board 100% useless? Defensive Stance is easily the most powerful stamina ability I can think of in VMSA outside of Vigor. So many boss mechanics are reflectable and mobs are constantly being stunned by it plus it is cheap as hell. There may be some Arenas where you would want dual wield or a bow over Sword and Board since Rally makes 2hander too necessary but the final fight almost seems designed for Sword and board.

    The daedroths are also easy to fight by circling around them as they breath and using dodge roll. Hell I used these tactics to fight them far more on my sorc than using a damage shield to try and "tank" it which almost always gets you killed or drains your magicka when you can't afford that.

    hm ye you are prolly right, I never tried to reflect boss abilities at all
    I run 2H/DW as well, but it looks like you are hitting harder and taking less damage than I do in many of those fights. Can you post the gear you were using and champion points please?

    check the link on the first quote. for CP I have like 70 points in Elemental defender and 30 in hardy. 100 in Mighty and some in precise strikes. 90 in Mooncalf and like 40 in Warlord
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Scyantific wrote: »
    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.

    There is only 2 things I consider broken in the vMA:
    Stage 7 on bossfight when you have to get into blue bubble and then Flower explodes you cant get out = rekt
    Stage 9 on bossfight Crematorial guard just reks you way too hard as stamboy


    Still, Magicka Sorc and NB have a way easier time in there than ANY other class or setup...

    You can just bash the boss channel in stage 7?
    Edited by Derra on November 6, 2015 9:29PM
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  • CP5
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    Alcast wrote: »
    CP5 wrote: »
    Nice videos but i'm wondering, how well would someone do not running DW+2H on a stamina build here?

    What else you want to run?
    Sword n Board is 100% useless
    Bow is crap since 1.6

    ER, double bow? Wanted to do something I hadn't in a while.
  • s7732425ub17_ESO
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Scyantific wrote: »
    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.

    There is only 2 things I consider broken in the vMA:
    Stage 7 on bossfight when you have to get into blue bubble and then Flower explodes you cant get out = rekt
    Stage 9 on bossfight Crematorial guard just reks you way too hard as stamboy


    Still, Magicka Sorc and NB have a way easier time in there than ANY other class or setup...

    Gap close and bash or use bow ranged interrupt on stage 7. I'm not sure how you are supposed to melee a Crematorial Guard. I would pop a speed pot and down it with bow.
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    I'm not sure how you are supposed to melee a Crematorial Guard. I would pop a speed pot and down it with bow.

    They have a slow turn speed if you run around them as they breath they wont even do damage to you as long as you keep using instant cast abilities on them. On my sorc I just would run around them spamming reflect + crushing shock on them when they breathed.
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  • SirDopey
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    Nice work man, good job on the videos - has made learning the mechanics so much easier :smiley:
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  • Alcast
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    Derra wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Scyantific wrote: »
    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.

    There is only 2 things I consider broken in the vMA:
    Stage 7 on bossfight when you have to get into blue bubble and then Flower explodes you cant get out = rekt
    Stage 9 on bossfight Crematorial guard just reks you way too hard as stamboy


    Still, Magicka Sorc and NB have a way easier time in there than ANY other class or setup...

    You can just bash the boss channel in stage 7?

    I heard when you do this his attacks get stronger? Is that wrong? If not then lawl will do next time xD

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  • Nighn_9
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    you were barely taking any dmg to the blades at all... how did you manage that?
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    also how do u have ur CP set up?
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  • Teiji
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    Alcast wrote: »
    Derra wrote: »
    Alcast wrote: »
    Scyantific wrote: »
    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.

    There is only 2 things I consider broken in the vMA:
    Stage 7 on bossfight when you have to get into blue bubble and then Flower explodes you cant get out = rekt
    Stage 9 on bossfight Crematorial guard just reks you way too hard as stamboy


    Still, Magicka Sorc and NB have a way easier time in there than ANY other class or setup...

    You can just bash the boss channel in stage 7?

    I heard when you do this his attacks get stronger? Is that wrong? If not then lawl will do next time xD

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  • Alcast
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    Nighn_9 wrote: »
    you were barely taking any dmg to the blades at all... how did you manage that?

    Bolstering Darkness ulti reduces damage taken by 60%.
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    also how do u have ur CP set up?

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  • Ender1310
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    Scyantific wrote: »
    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.

    I mean really? You think that's a good argument? That's like taking the one chick that can complete the army ROT training and saying since she did it it's not broken for other chicks. Terrible argument made by someone that has some other horse in the fight. Look at numbers I guarantee magika classes will have a greater representation in VMA clears. Jeesh. I am a fail blade (stamina night blade ) that can't clear it thank you for the vid going to try your set up. I think quick cloak maybe gives the extra survivability and mobility that I'm looking for.
  • Alcast
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    Ender1310 wrote: »
    Scyantific wrote: »
    Ok now that you've shown that all 4 classes can do this, no stam user can complain about it being too hard.

    Good job man.

    I mean really? You think that's a good argument? That's like taking the one chick that can complete the army ROT training and saying since she did it it's not broken for other chicks. Terrible argument made by someone that has some other horse in the fight. Look at numbers I guarantee magika classes will have a greater representation in VMA clears. Jeesh. I am a fail blade (stamina night blade ) that can't clear it thank you for the vid going to try your set up. I think quick cloak maybe gives the extra survivability and mobility that I'm looking for.

    This is an old thread. I am working on a update for vMA https://www.alcasthq.com/maelstrom
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