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A rollback?

  • lathbury
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    Ok everyone, we just deployed a hotfix on both NA and EU that addresses some of the main crashes that were causing the rollbacks. We're still investigating additional crashes, but for now, you don't need to relog or patch to see the hotfix we just completed.

    seems to have worked I played for a couple hours after said fix with no roll backs so thank you very much for destroying my time travel RP guild we were having a blast taking a dialogue option then coming back and taking the other. TY to all the whiners for ruining our time travel immersion with their whining.
  • lathbury
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    further to this in future updates I would appreciate more consideration for the time travel RP community. I feel our playstyle is as valid as anyone elses and does not deserve to be gutted in this fashion.
    Edited by lathbury on November 3, 2015 7:14AM
  • LaucianNailor
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    lathbury wrote: »
    further to this in future updates I would appreciate more consideration for the time travel RP community. I feel our playstyle is as valid as anyone elses and does not deserve to be gutted in this fashion.

    I sense a 'Back to The 2nd Age' guild in the making :*
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  • AngryNord
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    Had a minor rollback yesterday evening too, in the quest to rescue the refugees outside Orsinium...
  • sadownik
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    Chieve wrote: »
    sadownik wrote: »
    Epona222 wrote: »
    sadownik wrote: »
    Chieve wrote: »
    F7sus4 wrote: »
    The rollbacks are not deliberate - they are tied to very small crashes, which we are actively investigating.
    Could do your job properly AT LEAST ONCE? Just this SINGLE TIME?!

    I also don't want to be mean, but even dropping 1001 curses on you would still not be enough to sincerely express how miserably you failed AGAIN.

    (...)

    Sigh... I don't even know what else to say. You're just not worth our money, sorry.
    :disappointed:


    Just wanna say you're talking to the wrong person, shes not a computer science major but the assistabt community manager who probably got a degree in business orcommunications

    Regardless you also should know zos is a small team, working on this big mmorpg, and unless you tried writing a program yourself, you never really know how hard it can be to fix somethings, especially something like this with a miilion components mean there could be a number of reasons why an issue happens

    If you really want to complain, the person to go to is the director, the person who gives the orders to making the game and person they have to listen too...

    And unfortunately im sure they all have experience and knowledge better than you so who are you to tell them how to do their job

    No offense but youre extremely ignorant on how problems occur.

    Also people...remember this is zos first mmo...so...give them time with stuff like this, they dont have the 10years of knowledge and experience like some major mmorpgs like blizzard

    Look propably someone at Z. will appreciate your unwaranted love for their product, but...

    1. Im less than a week after gw2 launched huge expansion so i can compare how the launch of dlc is handled there and here.
    2. It might be Z. first MMO, hell in fact thats their first product, but they surly have people who did work on other MMO so this argument is extremely silly.

    Can you not see that not being supportive to your rudeness towards a member of staff does NOT equal "unwaranted love" of anything, just an understanding of basic manners - something I was taught as I was growing up, but which many people these days seem to have skipped that particular lesson.

    "your" rudness? Where the hell i was rude to ms GIna or Z. el al?

    And as you can see i didnt comment on the rudness. I did comment on that very overused argument "programming is hard, you dont get it".

    Gw2 staff is different than zos staff

    Dont use two different gaming teams as an example of how easy programming by co.paring one mmo company to another. And again still, experience, gw1 then g2, eso is still the first mmo

    And unless you designed your own mmo you cant really say how hard it is until you speak on first hand experience

    You clear never programmed a game in your life judging by your ignorant statement saying "gw2 was successful so programming was easy" and it shows how ignorant you are with your dumb assumptioms by saying "unwanted love"

    I dont agree with with everything in the game but you dont see me personally attacking a member of the staff who seems to be mostly the messenger

    Additionally, you dont see me defending the attacker

    Its called manners and being a mature adult, not a whiney kid

    Before you make an ass of yourself even more let me make things clear,

    The orinial person i quoted was personally insulting a staff, and as i said, *** seems to be only a messanger.

    However i dont know if she has any programming experience and if she did woth the staff, then youre calling out the wrong person

    And before you insult someone, if you have no first hand experience or no understanding at all on the specific issue and how challenging it fan be, you really dont have anything to say.

    And my only response to your weird irration to that last statement, you are comparing apples and oranges (gw2 and eso)

    Stop lashing out at me for fighting back at the bully, it just shows you are sticking up for the bully.

    I was thinking about letting go, but your offencive post deserves an answer.
    1. never defended the rudeness
    2. always point out silly arguments
    3. take your meds please, you seem to be enraged and thats not healthy.
  • AtriasNaradan
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    Aeula wrote: »
    Why did you do a rollback ZOS? I've just lost the last 10 minutes worth of play time, in which I'd completed a delve and one of those stupidly hard world bosses.
    Is this going to happen a lot? If so I'm going to play another game until you sort out whatever it is you're rolling back for.

    Don't worry, if it's as how i experience it from my play time since launch on PC, they won't let rollback problems not investigated and fixed.
  • tengri
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    Played an hour or so late last night in Wrothgar - no rollbacks.

    But just now I had 3 in a short while and then it kicked me for excessive messaging.
    Do I even want to try to login tonight during prime-time?
  • VincentBlanquin
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    i reported 30!!!! minutes rollback 6 months ago. i lost a lot. support was unable to undestand, or they have no proper answer so their answers were misleading. at least they are trying investigating it now
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  • Zakor
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    Seems like the problem is not completly fixed yet. Yesterday evening I got a dc in wrothgar and didn't log in again as I wanted to go to sleep anyway. After login in now I found myself in the dungeon I left ~10 mins before the dc.

    EDIT:
    The same applies to my friend. We got the dc at the exact same time and the login position is also the same.
    Edited by Zakor on November 4, 2015 6:39PM
  • Tyvarra
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    Just had a rollback again in one of the Public Dungeons right after I found a "Ancient Orc" Chapter ;_;
    I thought you fixed it? Why are rollbacks still occuring? Thats really frustrating, I waited for 15-20 minutes for that stupid boss to spawn and 5 mins later....rollback! You cant be serious? -.-

    I wrote a ticket, see what will come of it (151105-001685)...

    Sooooo frustrating..... >.<
    Please fix the game!
  • Moonshadow66
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    ZOMG I had 1000 Rubidyte Ignets and 1000 of knew mowtif and now rollbaks happens i lost them all also I was Emperoro on all campings

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  • GaldorP
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    Unfortunately, it seems the rollbacks are not entirely fixed and not limited to Wrothgar.

    I just did the daily veteran pledge Dark Shade Caverns in a group with 3 other players.

    About 30 seconds after we had killed the final boss, my game crashed and when I logged back in, I had lost about 10-15 minutes of progress.

    My quest was unfinished again (I had completed it already) and I lost all the loot I had got (the final boss had dropped a VR 16 purple Bow of Endurance, an Engine Guardian Helmet and a Laurel Leaf + a few regular items and gold).

    The other players in my group did not crash and suffer from this rollback, it only happened to me.

    Please have a look into this problem :(
  • Anhedonie
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    Rollbacks still happen in WGT and maelstrom arena.
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  • ZOS_GinaBruno
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    @GaldorP, we have some additional fixes for crashes and rollbacks - not just in Orsinium - going into Monday's incremental patch. This should help!
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  • GaldorP
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    Thank you :)
  • _Chaos
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    @GaldorP, we have some additional fixes for crashes and rollbacks - not just in Orsinium - going into Monday's incremental patch. This should help!

    This shouldn't happen in a triple A MMO to begin with!
    'Chaos
  • Ritzey01
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    This shouldn't happen in a triple A MMO to begin with!



    Really? I have seen this ALLOT more in WOW than in ESO.....ALLOT more!

    Edited by Ritzey01 on November 6, 2015 6:13PM
  • Pallmor
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    ZOMG I had 1000 Rubidyte Ignets and 1000 of knew mowtif and now rollbaks happens i lost them all also I was Emperoro on all campings

    Don't feel bad. You just know there was a player who had just found his first Imperial motif, and logged off to celebrate.

    "Finally, after playing this game for a year, I'm finally rewarded for it!" he was thinking as he logged back in later.
  • Thornen
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    Had this happen to me on a new alt just now, running through Enduum delve in Glenumbra hit a loading screen and kicked to character select, log back in and its rolled me back outside the delve, had to go back complete it again as I had already killed the main boss and get the skyshard again as well.

    Seems its localised to players only? Other guy that I saw in there said he wasn't rolled back so wtfs going on exactly?
  • Pheefs
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    Thornen wrote: »

    Seems its localised to players only? Other guy that I saw in there said he wasn't rolled back so wtfs going on exactly?

    It seems like in the seconds leading up to your crash, the game server side has basically failed to update your save...
    so it uses the last save point it has instead.
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  • Hlaadriel
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    The rollbacks are not deliberate - they are tied to very small crashes, which we are actively investigating.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno well and here just got the engine visage v16 heavy reinforced rolledback! This game really start to suck!
  • Uriel_Nocturne
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    And here I sit, still on the edge of my seat, waiting for Orsinium to come out for my Xbox...

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  • Beesting
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    And here I sit, still on the edge of my seat, waiting for Orsinium to come out for my Xbox...

    Yes it is a very nice update, loads of quests and interesting delves and places to explore

    You will enjoy it
    Beesting, Bosmer Magica DK, AD EU, crafter
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    Farmer, Dunmer Magica DK, AD EU, trials build

    Every major patch looks like the end of the world but somehow i just cannot stop playing.
  • sagitter
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    3 ROLLBACKS in 1 hour, i lost a goldkey and a piece of spellpower cure. Eu pc server.
  • Volkodav
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    The only roll back I've gotten is from one side of the bridge to the other,where I started.
  • Zaldan
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    sagitter wrote: »
    3 ROLLBACKS in 1 hour, i lost a goldkey and a piece of spellpower cure. Eu pc server.

    yeah been seeing that quite a bit in guild chat, they're loving the rollbacks :s
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  • gibous
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    I lost my Overwhelming Jerkin with infused trait after completing WGT... it was my fourth piece which is all I wanted...
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  • G0ku
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    one of us lost his overwhelming jerkin in divines... you keep the stuff before the planar inhibitor ( still got 8 daedric embers ) but all the stuff you get afterwards is deleted from inventory:

    - no pvp because 5 min loading screen in transitus shrine from black boot to alessia
    - no pve because endless loading screens when entering buildings, etc. ...
    - no maelstrom arena because of resets and bugs
    - no dailys because the same rollbacks ( lose engine guardian helm V16, etc.)

    What aspect of this game is left to play? Viral marketing for Fallout 4?
    Edited by G0ku on November 7, 2015 9:32PM
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  • Cyantific87
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    and another rollback. just this minute.
  • Chieve
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    sadownik wrote: »
    Chieve wrote: »
    sadownik wrote: »
    Epona222 wrote: »
    sadownik wrote: »
    Chieve wrote: »
    F7sus4 wrote: »
    The rollbacks are not deliberate - they are tied to very small crashes, which we are actively investigating.
    Could do your job properly AT LEAST ONCE? Just this SINGLE TIME?!

    I also don't want to be mean, but even dropping 1001 curses on you would still not be enough to sincerely express how miserably you failed AGAIN.

    (...)

    Sigh... I don't even know what else to say. You're just not worth our money, sorry.
    :disappointed:


    Just wanna say you're talking to the wrong person, shes not a computer science major but the assistabt community manager who probably got a degree in business orcommunications

    Regardless you also should know zos is a small team, working on this big mmorpg, and unless you tried writing a program yourself, you never really know how hard it can be to fix somethings, especially something like this with a miilion components mean there could be a number of reasons why an issue happens

    If you really want to complain, the person to go to is the director, the person who gives the orders to making the game and person they have to listen too...

    And unfortunately im sure they all have experience and knowledge better than you so who are you to tell them how to do their job

    No offense but youre extremely ignorant on how problems occur.

    Also people...remember this is zos first mmo...so...give them time with stuff like this, they dont have the 10years of knowledge and experience like some major mmorpgs like blizzard

    Look propably someone at Z. will appreciate your unwaranted love for their product, but...

    1. Im less than a week after gw2 launched huge expansion so i can compare how the launch of dlc is handled there and here.
    2. It might be Z. first MMO, hell in fact thats their first product, but they surly have people who did work on other MMO so this argument is extremely silly.

    Can you not see that not being supportive to your rudeness towards a member of staff does NOT equal "unwaranted love" of anything, just an understanding of basic manners - something I was taught as I was growing up, but which many people these days seem to have skipped that particular lesson.

    "your" rudness? Where the hell i was rude to ms GIna or Z. el al?

    And as you can see i didnt comment on the rudness. I did comment on that very overused argument "programming is hard, you dont get it".

    Gw2 staff is different than zos staff

    Dont use two different gaming teams as an example of how easy programming by co.paring one mmo company to another. And again still, experience, gw1 then g2, eso is still the first mmo

    And unless you designed your own mmo you cant really say how hard it is until you speak on first hand experience

    You clear never programmed a game in your life judging by your ignorant statement saying "gw2 was successful so programming was easy" and it shows how ignorant you are with your dumb assumptioms by saying "unwanted love"

    I dont agree with with everything in the game but you dont see me personally attacking a member of the staff who seems to be mostly the messenger

    Additionally, you dont see me defending the attacker

    Its called manners and being a mature adult, not a whiney kid

    Before you make an ass of yourself even more let me make things clear,

    The orinial person i quoted was personally insulting a staff, and as i said, *** seems to be only a messanger.

    However i dont know if she has any programming experience and if she did woth the staff, then youre calling out the wrong person

    And before you insult someone, if you have no first hand experience or no understanding at all on the specific issue and how challenging it fan be, you really dont have anything to say.

    And my only response to your weird irration to that last statement, you are comparing apples and oranges (gw2 and eso)

    Stop lashing out at me for fighting back at the bully, it just shows you are sticking up for the bully.

    I was thinking about letting go, but your offencive post deserves an answer.
    1. never defended the rudeness
    2. always point out silly arguments
    3. take your meds please, you seem to be enraged and thats not healthy.

    Nothing was silly with what i said, i was the one sticking up for someone

    Anyways not sure what silly arguments i had considering your reason to respond was quiet silly yourself so not sure what you expect
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