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Solo players need a buff to help them survive

  • Elloa
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    From someone that defend "casual" "relaxed" "non -elit" and "no addon" playstyle, I can tell you that the game is already very easy for an average player to play solo, except Craglorn, Imperial City and some world bosses (that are group content)

    So, if you have difficulties to defeat this content, it mean that you are not playing good enough (sorry to say that). You need to learn the game, learn your class, adapt your playstyle and practice. That's how you will become better. DO not discourage yourself after have died two or three time on a boss, but go back to it, try different thing until you get it down. Maybe you need to change your spells. Maybe you need upgrade your gear. maybe you need to dodge or block in time.
  • Jitterbug
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    I much prefer going solo as much as possible. Sure it's harder than when you have a pocket healer but that just adds to the fun. There are very few events (a couple of world bosses) in the levelling zones that is unable to be soloed unless you out level them and that's fine. If no one in /z heeds my call I just move on.

    There are no dolmens / delves / quests / public dungeons that can't be soloed.
  • BalticBlues
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Sorry op, but you honestly do need to l2p
    I can do the entire game pressing just one skill on my bar.
    Yes, we already know you are the forum god.
    At least when it comes to Troll answers like this one.
    L2P? Yes please, Learn 2 Post something useful for the people.

    The OP wrote as his central sentence:
    "Finding a group on this game is a freaking nightmare"
    On consoles, I am afraid this is true due to the lack of text chat.

    But instead of giving solo players a buff, I would prefer a way to hire one or more companions in a tavern, the way it was possible in Skyrim. I still did not do all Craglorn quests that require 4 people, and it is a shame that you cannot find 12-man-trials anymore because of their VR14 loot.

    ZOS, if a group is required for certain content and no human player is available
    please give solo players a way to hire companion bots (Healer, Tank, DPS).


    Edited by BalticBlues on November 5, 2015 1:23PM
  • I_killed_Vivec
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    My pet peeve is the opposite - not that solo players should be buffed but that when running solo content paired or grouped players should be debuffed.

    I've held back on most of the Orsinium quests because when I do venture in I find that most of the bosses are swamped by groups charging from point to point trashing everything in their way (I know, I know... other people playing my MMO, how dare they?!) . I suppose I could join in and add my token sword thrust just to get the achievement and complete the quest but I'd rather face the boss myself.

    You know, play the game, meet the challenge, rather than faceroll solo-able content in a group.

    But that's just for solo quests. For the content that is intended for groups - including world bosses and dolmens - then if I want to try to solo them I have to up my game. And that's the way it should be :)
  • KerinKor
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    Spliffo wrote: »
    No need to buff just a L2P issue
    Because every class can solo the DUNGEONS (not Delves), right?
  • MrDerrikk
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    KerinKor wrote: »
    Spliffo wrote: »
    No need to buff just a L2P issue
    Because every class can solo the DUNGEONS (not Delves), right?

    What class would you say can't?
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  • AMadAussie
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    zornyan wrote: »
    Sorry op, but you honestly do need to l2p
    L2P? Yes please, Learn 2 Post something useful for the people.
    Hah. Good one.
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  • Scyantific
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    KerinKor wrote: »
    Spliffo wrote: »
    No need to buff just a L2P issue
    Because every class can solo the DUNGEONS (not Delves), right?

    Protip: Dungeons = Delves

    Also, learn to play. My templar was soloing Wayrest Sewers and Fungal Grotto by level 30.
  • vamp_emily
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    Give the guy a buff he needs it.

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    I sure as hell haven't joined any sissy guild, especially the PvP ones. I play leisurely, definitely don't sit down and spend time theory crafting a game (lol). Don't have any dungeon grind gear. Pretty much use whatever skill I like. I have always played with zero addons.

    Only thing I needed help with were world bosses sometimes and the more difficult public dungeons.
  • danno8
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    danno8 wrote: »
    Every single class can put a build together that can solo all dolmens, public dungeons and delves.

    Just use one of those builds.

    Here is a quick hint:

    Stamina builds: Brawler+Rally

    Magicka Builds:
    -Templar - Puncturing Sweeps
    -NB - Sap essence + Siphoning Attaacks
    -Sorcerer - Hardened Ward + Mines + Bolt Escape + CF
    -DK - All DoT's + Cheap Ultimate (Battle Roar passive) + Blocking + GDB

    Other people can elaborate more if you need it. Point is all classes can do it easily.

    your a great joke teller.

    Is that a joke? I can't tell.

    I have levelled every class and soloed all dolmens, public dungeons and delves by just using what I have written above.

    Stamina build? Hit Rally. Brawler. Heavy Attack. Brawler. Heavy Attack. Brawler. Heavy Attack. Brawler....Rally. Brawler.

    Can you not do this? I don't get it. Is it too hard?

    Templar? Hit Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep. Puncturing Sweep.

    You think I am joking? I wish I was. It is that easy.

    One thing I left out of my post was to make sure you are wearing appropriate gear. Here is the big gear secret...ready?
    -magicka wear light armour, with magicka enchants, magicka jewelry with magicka reduction/regeneration.
    -stamina wear medium armour, with stamina enchants, stamina jewelry with stamina reduction/regeneration.

    Pretty complex eh? Funny huh?
  • apostate9
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    Spliffo wrote: »
    No need to buff just a L2P issue

    I don't need someone telling me to "git gud" right now. Okay?

    I believe that if you have literally nobody around that you can group with, the game should be just as enjoyable without them.

    No, you do. You really do need exactly that. The fact that you don't know it is the problem. Non dungeon PVE in this game is now faceroll easy. Stop getting your dander up when people tell you to l2p, they are actually giving you good advice.
    Edited by apostate9 on November 5, 2015 8:35PM
  • Spacemonkey
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    3. I solo'd AD, and Silver (EP), and started Gold (DC) and I got through i.e. the public dungeon in Glenumbra without breaking a sweat. I welcome the occasional challenge from harder (unbalanced apparently?) public dungeons. I was dissapointed that Orsinium faked-leveled me from VR8 to VR15.

    Oh and I only have like 50 CP

    I'm built for Solo, if anything it causes problems when doing vet dungeons (cz my build isnt optimized for one particular role) - and IC is a real challenge (at least was before the update)

    If anything, I think it should be harder... there is NO point to group for anything PvE other than the occasional healing boss (cz I cant damage them fast enough to kill them.... -_-) and the vet dungeons. Perhaps trials too, haven't tried Craglorn yet.
  • cyclonus11
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    Soloing is easy. Just note that dungeons, WBs, and dolmens are for multiple players and soloing them (at an even or lower level) is SUPPOSED TO mean you're OP.

    I play exclusively as an archer with few problems, and I've seen people complain that it's impossible to do that. So just keep trying out different skill combinations and eventually you'll find something that works.
  • Shogunami
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    Playing this game solo is more or less how I only I play it, because everything else is just way too easy.
    Sure, I do dungeons in group. But dolmens, delves and world bosses (in cadwell silver+gold, anyway) I do solo. All it took was for me to understand my class and it all went from dying to groups of 3 mobs to soloing dolmens or a world boss.

    There's nothing challenging or difficult about this game. really. Or at least that's the way it's been since early veteran ranks.

    Trials and PvP are all just spamfest, and they are supposedly the "challenging" activities of this game.


    Quests are great fun, but it's starting to feel like I'm playing a game in "story mode", because there's hardly ever anything challenging that happens.


    So I suggest you spend some time really trying to learn how you class, skill and combat system works in ESO. Because combat isn't difficult.


    Bugs are difficult.
    Cyrodiil lag is difficult.

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  • Hateanthem
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    I don't want to be mean, but it is a learning issue. It sounds like no one has taken the time to sort of guide you down a path of gear and class knowledge.

    I'm not just going to say l2p or git gud... But I will say I don't mind helping you out with the l2p issue.

    If younhit me up in-game during the evening, @Hateanthem, I don't mind take a look at your character with you and seeing if we can work out some of the issues. If its a class I'm not knowledgeable about, then I'm sure I know someone who is. Don't hesitate to ask for help.

    Best of luck to you.

    Edit: Nvm...I just read the word console. I'm on PC. Also you are snarky...so L2P and git gud.
    Edited by Hateanthem on November 5, 2015 9:10PM
  • vamp_emily
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    Hard to argue with anything on here, give the player what he wants:

    Buff him.

    If you want a friend, get a dog.
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  • Scyantific
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    Hard to argue with anything on here, give the player what he wants:

    Buff him.

    Yeah this. Then buff the mobs so that they still 1-shot him.
  • vonfelty
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    While I do not think that solo players should be buffed, I would argue the grouping mechanics are the worst thing ever since unsliced moldy bread.

    The LFG (although slightly better by a minuscule amount) needs a major overhaul.
  • ThePonzzz
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    This game's solo content is far too easy. Wrothgar is a nice boost, but it's still rather easy. World Bosses and Public Dungeons require some loose groups, but that's really it.

    I wish we'd go back to how it was last year. around launch. ZOS, could even sell a shirt that says, "I Beat Doshia Before Nerf." I'd buy one.
  • Xendyn
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    vamp_emily wrote: »
    Hard to argue with anything on here, give the player what he wants:

    Buff him.

    Ok
    Here you go buddy

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  • Shadesofkin
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    Like, I really want to just post "hahahahahhaahahahahahaha" as my response, but I feel that isn't actually accurate enough to what I'm feeling.

    It's not just pure hilarity, but absurdity too.

    Somewhere there is a Gif that correctly displays the reaction I think is appropriate to this request and to the supporting comments that have been issued.

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  • hatchet1
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    I believe that one reason some parts of the game seems hard to some solo players is because of their character build. I know that is the case for me. I'm at lvl 38 with one of my characters right now. (Got bored with my vet characters) . I can be in a solo dungeon, for instance, getting my rear kicked and here will come along someone with a lvl 26 character and just absolutely clean house, in a matter of seconds. And I think to myself " Wow , that was great!! I want what that guy has".
    I know that he/she has done a lot better job than me choosing his/her abilities and weapons.
  • sekhem
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    I sure as hell haven't joined any sissy guild, especially the PvP ones. I play leisurely, definitely don't sit down and spend time theory crafting a game (lol). Don't have any dungeon grind gear. Pretty much use whatever skill I like. I have always played with zero addons.

    Only thing I needed help with were world bosses sometimes and the more difficult public dungeons.

    This is me too.
    I am a semi (edit:fairly) crappy player. I frequently get lost, swirl my camera around like a crazy person, get myself stuck between rocks and cant jump over them to get away from being hit. I get knocked out all the time cuz I dont block. It takes me forever to realize im being held down by the claws or stuck in the red circles.
    And still I accidentally soloed two delves at my level and I wasnt even paying attention to where I was. Heck I thought I was following a quest into a cave.
    But I do agree the game could use better grouping tools.
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  • Van_0S
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    The Problem

    Let me be frank about this, playing this game solo sucks. As you clear the first few veteran ranks all the enemies get so much more difficult to beat. In order to take down more than two or three of them at once, you need to have as many buffs as possible, focus all of your attribute points on one, forcing you to adhere to a specific style of play, and you need to choose all of the best skills. Granted, that's a bit of an exaggeration, but that's what it feels like when you've thrown yourself at the same dungeon over and over again for the past hour only to not get past the first room.

    Playing the game solo makes it 10 times more difficult. I wouldn't mind so much if there weren't group-oriented dungeons that, if you care even the slightest about gathering all of the skyshards, you'll simply have to force yourself through at one point or another.

    I know the public dungeons are meant to be tackled in a group, but what the hell are you supposed to do if you can't find one? I've had the game for months, but I've never had anyone to play with. None of my friends have the game, and then there are people on these forums that insist that I join a guild full of random strangers when there's no guarantee that they'll help me either (I have an aversion to guilds full of people I don't know, and I'm not the only one).

    The group finder on the game sucks balls, there is no option to find help for public dungeons and when I go on "World" it only gives me 2 zones to choose from, neither of which are the one that I need help with.

    Then there's the forums, where you can only find people to play with if they happen to stumble across your "I need help" amongst the hundreds of others, and also happen to have the same console, same megaserver, and same alliance.

    TL;DR: Finding a group on this game is a freaking nightmare

    When you're in a group, you have one or two guys that focus on dealing damage, one guy that does crowd control, one guy that focuses on tanking, and one guy that focuses on healing the group.

    When you're solo, you need to do ALL of those things by yourself, which is difficult to pull off correctly due to the limited number of attribute points available. If you want to play this game, you have to play the "right" way, or you'll fail at literally everything you do after level 50.

    The Solution

    I believe that there should be a buff for people who play solo to make things, at least a little bit, easier on them. It should be active in all PVE areas, whenever a player has got nobody else in their group.

    Name: Lone Wolf
    Damage Dealt: +50%
    Damage Received: -25%
    Health Regen.: +25%
    Magicka Regen.: +50%
    Stamina Regen.: +50%

    I'm genuinely looking for feedback here, so please comment with your opinions.

    Comment "1" if you believe solo players should get the buff.
    Comment "2" if you believe the buff I've proposed is unbalanced, but that solo players should still get something. (State what could be a suitable alternative)
    Comment "3" if you believe solo players should get nothing whatsoever. (State why)

    Are you talking about Veteran Dungeons ?
    If so then, you need a group of 4 and I know the LFG tool is a sh!@t but you have no choice. Doing Solo is suicide.

    I agree, solo players need a buff but Zeni is not going to accept/take action on what you are saying in your post because this is a MMO and the main purpose of this game is to be in a group of freinds/strangers.

    Well, if this is about veteran content and you are enable to do quest then you have to change your build or reroll as a templar.

    Apparently, Zeni as made the game more tough(and nerfs) when IC patch was released to get appreciation from their fans/ hardcore players/pros for a difficult content. Due to that reason many causal players ditch this game for good.

    I perviously, had a stamina Dunmer NB and her main dps/heal was WB+rally but due to the nerf on rally,dodge roll, block that destroyed this game. I was enable to play with her and I was forced to change her build into a magicka NB(I hate to play as Harry Potter). Like wise , I rerolled a stamplar (bosmer) and I am having a blast, I am able to kill 6-7 mobs by just using 2 abilities (bitting jabs+repentance and sometime I use some buffs).
    Edited by Van_0S on November 5, 2015 10:07PM
  • Ghost-Shot
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    KerinKor wrote: »
    Spliffo wrote: »
    No need to buff just a L2P issue
    Because every class can solo the DUNGEONS (not Delves), right?

    You're not supposed to solo dungeons, its an MMO, group up.
  • tplink3r1
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    LOL, the game is already too easy and people want to make it even more easy.
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