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Could Queen Ayreen be an Ayleid?

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Madoras
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I mean.. that would explain why she isn't in the history books..
  • Madoras
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    Madoras wrote: »
    I mean.. that would explain why she isn't in the history books..

    cause ya know.. they[Ad] find out and kill her maybe...
  • Rosveen
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    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?
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  • Madoras
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    You never wondered why she isn't in any of the history of TES before TESO?
  • Rosveen
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    Madoras wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    You never wondered why she isn't in any of the history of TES before TESO?
    Practically none of ESO events and characters were mentioned in the previous games. That's because BGS developers don't have prophetic powers and/or didn't want to spoil the game before it was released. It might seem confusing when you're dealing with a prequel, but it makes perfect sense. The lore wasn't set in stone 20 years ago, it grows organically game by game.
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  • Madoras
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    Madoras wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    You never wondered why she isn't in any of the history of TES before TESO?
    Practically none of ESO events and characters were mentioned in the previous games. That's because BGS developers don't have prophetic powers and/or didn't want to spoil the game before it was released. It might seem confusing when you're dealing with a prequel, but it makes perfect sense. The lore wasn't set in stone 20 years ago, it grows organically game by game.

    Still tho, she is the queen is she not?
  • Artemisshrikes
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    Madoras wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    Madoras wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    You never wondered why she isn't in any of the history of TES before TESO?
    Practically none of ESO events and characters were mentioned in the previous games. That's because BGS developers don't have prophetic powers and/or didn't want to spoil the game before it was released. It might seem confusing when you're dealing with a prequel, but it makes perfect sense. The lore wasn't set in stone 20 years ago, it grows organically game by game.

    Still tho, she is the queen is she not?

    *Facepalm*
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  • TheNephilimCrow
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    It would explain some things, but also maybe she did something in the future that gets your history removed. Who knows. But, she is not an Ayleid. I actually like her. Ayleid's seem kind of "high and mighty" snob types.
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  • JDar
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    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    Well that's what people say about the monarch of England and the Queen is descended from German lines.
  • ArrerBoy
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    Madoras wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    You never wondered why she isn't in any of the history of TES before TESO?

    Dragonbreak. This is still a thing in lore. A point in history where time gets messed up and multiple timelines are experienced at once before re converging into a single point. Alessian Empire had a Dragon Break, and had alternate timelines where the Empire not only conquered Tamriel, but all of Nirn and the planets around it, and when the Dragonbreak ended, the only record of it happening was the souls of dead emperors in the Amulet of Kings that were never recorded in the history books.
    TheNephilimCrow wrote: »
    It would explain some things, but also maybe she did something in the future that gets your history removed. Who knows. But, she is not an Ayleid. I actually like her. Ayleid's seem kind of "high and mighty" snob types.

    That describes all pre-splilt Aldmer. Really the biggest difference between Ayleids and Altmer is that Ayleids made no secret of their Daedra worship even as they revered Aedra.
    Edited by ArrerBoy on October 14, 2015 7:35PM
  • Drax76
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    ESO occurs during the Interregenium (the time between Emperors) which lasted several hundred years, if I remember my Tamrielic Lore correctly.
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  • Ghanima_Atreides
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    Ayrenn's birth is well-documented, it even has a date (5th of Second Seed in the year 555 of the Second Era), her parentage is known ( King Hidellith and his wife Kinlady Tuinden), she has a brother...so I think it's highly unlikely for her to be anything other than an unusually tolerant Altmer royal. :lol:

    Source Ayrenn: The Unforeseen Queen
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    Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »
    Ayrenn's birth is well-documented, it even has a date (5th of Second Seed in the year 555 of the Second Era), her parentage is known ( King Hidellith and his wife Kinlady Tuinden), she has a brother...so I think it's highly unlikely for her to be anything other than an unusually tolerant Altmer royal. :lol:

    Source Ayrenn: The Unforeseen Queen

    Explain her unusual human-like skin color then. Many royalty intermarry with other royalty from different cultures to solidify their ties. If an Altmer married a royal Ayleid 2000 years ago, I'm fairly certain no one would have batted an eye. This would also explain the strange Nedic-hued skintones of the Altmer in this era.
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    ArrerBoy wrote: »
    Madoras wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    You never wondered why she isn't in any of the history of TES before TESO?

    Dragonbreak. This is still a thing in lore. A point in history where time gets messed up and multiple timelines are experienced at once before re converging into a single point. Alessian Empire had a Dragon Break, and had alternate timelines where the Empire not only conquered Tamriel, but all of Nirn and the planets around it, and when the Dragonbreak ended, the only record of it happening was the souls of dead emperors in the Amulet of Kings that were never recorded in the history books.
    TheNephilimCrow wrote: »
    It would explain some things, but also maybe she did something in the future that gets your history removed. Who knows. But, she is not an Ayleid. I actually like her. Ayleid's seem kind of "high and mighty" snob types.

    That describes all pre-splilt Aldmer. Really the biggest difference between Ayleids and Altmer is that Ayleids made no secret of their Daedra worship even as they revered Aedra.

    I think dragonbreaks are when akatosh (time itself) loses control over time for a short while, this was written in lore I think nearly 20 years ago to fix a problem micheal kirkbride created so they just came up with this notion of a dragonbreak to remedy an issue with lore writing.

    how did an emperor conquer planets?
    not all ayleids worshipped daedra.
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  • adriant1978
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    Queen Ayrenn isn't an Ayleid, but she might be a robot from the future. ;)
  • Paazhahdrimaak
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    Didn't high elves come from alyeid?
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    Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »
    Didn't high elves come from alyeid?

    No, the Ayleid's are known as the 'wild elves' or 'heartland high elves'. The heartland being Cyrodiil. The original elves who came to Tamriel were known as the Aldmer, and diverged into the different groups there are in the game. The Altmer claim they are the ones most like the original Aldmer, and are probably right in that regard. The Ayleids intermixed with humans, and the Breton and possibly at least some of the Bosmer race are the result.
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  • tplink3r1
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    I don't think so. Ayleids have darker skins.
    Edited by tplink3r1 on October 31, 2015 3:51AM
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  • nobleboivin
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    ArrerBoy wrote: »
    Madoras wrote: »
    Rosveen wrote: »
    She looks very Altmer. She's from a pure Altmeri line. She would never have become queen if she was an Ayleid. What made you think she was?

    You never wondered why she isn't in any of the history of TES before TESO?

    Dragonbreak. This is still a thing in lore. A point in history where time gets messed up and multiple timelines are experienced at once before re converging into a single point. Alessian Empire had a Dragon Break, and had alternate timelines where the Empire not only conquered Tamriel, but all of Nirn and the planets around it, and when the Dragonbreak ended, the only record of it happening was the souls of dead emperors in the Amulet of Kings that were never recorded in the history books.
    TheNephilimCrow wrote: »
    It would explain some things, but also maybe she did something in the future that gets your history removed. Who knows. But, she is not an Ayleid. I actually like her. Ayleid's seem kind of "high and mighty" snob types.

    That describes all pre-splilt Aldmer. Really the biggest difference between Ayleids and Altmer is that Ayleids made no secret of their Daedra worship even as they revered Aedra.

    I completely agree with the Dragonbreak concept.

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