looks like more people have left the game since IC

MangoSsk · October 2015

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

I got two words for you.. Other Games

Destiny
Fallout 3
Assassins Creed
Star Wars Battlefront HYPE
Need For Speed HYPE
Call of Duty HYPE
More Call Of Duty
etc.

americansteel · October 2015

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

Desu_Gun_ · October 2015

It's mostly the PvP community that's leaving. We've been asking for a PvP DLC with some small scale PvP arenas but IC is really more of PvE update. Can't really get any good PvP action with aggroing NPC's and most of the players you fight in the sewers are PvE players.

icontested · October 2015

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

This post makes me sick. It's not true and furthermore I can't wait until you feel as dumb as this post reads when you see how things unfold

Callous2208 · October 2015

icontested wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

This post makes me sick. It's not true and furthermore I can't wait until you feel as dumb as this post reads when you see how things unfold

Agreed. I'm not on the Star Wars hype train and let's be honest, the CoD crowd weren't gonna stay anywhere too long regardless. Plus I'm on PC so this is really a non-issue.

Sting864 · October 2015

Desu_Gun_ wrote: »

It's mostly the PvP community that's leaving. We've been asking for a PvP DLC with some small scale PvP arenas but IC is really more of PvE update. Can't really get any good PvP action with aggroing NPC's and most of the players you fight in the sewers are PvE players.

Didn't the PvPers say IC was in effect "their yard," and PvEers should wait until a PvE DLC came out? IC is small scale PvP. I've gone in with a few groups and had a blast... However, it isn't like large scale PvP against a bunch of anonymous enemies. It's more like the WWE, you have to communicate and work with your "enemy" to be effective and really have fun... That's part of the challenge in sports/gaming entertainment...

Jbugz97 · October 2015

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

i dont agree with that most people leaving are simply because of what eso is turning into . eso is pushing them out not other games taking them away.

Waffennacht · October 2015

The players that leave, at least from the guilds I'm apart of, have only played a few hours or days. They never truly invested in the game and never would put as much in.

Same with Neverwinter, just randomly check the roster and see the levels and last active. Tons start but don't keep up.

It takes a certain player to put in over 300 hours in a game and still be half way lol.

Im not worried at all

Jbugz97 · October 2015

Waffennacht wrote: »

The players that leave, at least from the guilds I'm apart of, have only played a few hours or days. They never truly invested in the game and never would put as much in.

Same with Neverwinter, just randomly check the roster and see the levels and last active. Tons start but don't keep up.

It takes a certain player to put in over 300 hours in a game and still be half way lol.

Im not worried at all

that another topic but zos should defently look into that it takes wayyyy to long to get to v16 i have 2 friend that quit the game at v2-5 some how months later i got them to try it again and once they got to v16 they were hook. its like a different game once your at end level

Kelleton · October 2015

IC is fun, nothing like wiping out a group of 15+ enemy faction by dragging a banner boss into their AOEs. Spam a couple of steel tornados and collect your 10k+ AP.

kalimar44 · October 2015

Most of the new games coming out don't interest me at ALL. ESO is easily the best game on the ps 4 right now.

americansteel · October 2015

Jbugz97 wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

i dont agree with that most people leaving are simply because of what eso is turning into . eso is pushing them out not other games taking them away.

when the taken king came out for destiny I saw the population drop. whether you like it or not when call of crap and fall out is released the ESO population for console will drop.

Jbugz97 · October 2015

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

i dont agree with that most people leaving are simply because of what eso is turning into . eso is pushing them out not other games taking them away.

when the taken king came out for destiny I saw the population drop. whether you like it or not when call of crap and fall out is released the ESO population for console will drop.

fallout i see that like the witch game, that came out some month ago people left but came back once finish . call of crap idk man that game is pass just old lol i guess some people will leave but those were gonna leave regardless

americansteel · October 2015

icontested wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

This post makes me sick. It's not true and furthermore I can't wait until you feel as dumb as this post reads when you see how things unfold

oh im so sorry that I made you mad and this post offended you, try growing a back bone!
I guess you're not in reality? that's life when games are released before call of crap their population have awlays surged until the release of a CoD game yearly all console games populations have dropped.

all I hear in came chat is how people cant wait for fall out star wars and call of duty no mentioning of the new DLC for ESO.
almost my entire guild of 300 people will be done with ESO when fall out hits.

fixing the current state of ESO PvP will not fix the population.

no I cant wait to see how dumb you feel when the pop on ESO drops when CoD lands.

americansteel · October 2015

MangoSsk wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

I got two words for you.. Other Games

Destiny
Fallout 3
Assassins Creed
Star Wars Battlefront HYPE
Need For Speed HYPE
Call of Duty HYPE
More Call Of Duty
etc.

try telling this to the people below you. but your statement is 100% correct

Sharakor · October 2015

PvP is completely dead, the population overall has decreased by at least 70%. ZOS made some of the worst choices they could ever make, they completely ruined the game EVEN for the "noobs" they aimed to help with those horrid things they called updates.

Callous2208 · October 2015

americansteel wrote: »

icontested wrote: »

americansteel wrote: »

Jbugz97 wrote: »

since IC came out it lseem like alot of the active player that were here on forum have left the game. and on xbox since IC i have not been to one dueling meet up yet alot off people i use to see online are not on anymore. idk i hope zos does something for pvp so people come back or stay.

hey i may be wrong.

with fall out star wars and call of crap coming out shortly I see the ESO population general leaving.
console of course.
DLC or no DLC nothing is going to change that.

This post makes me sick. It's not true and furthermore I can't wait until you feel as dumb as this post reads when you see how things unfold

oh im so sorry that I made you mad and this post offended you, try growing a back bone!
I guess you're not in reality? that's life when games are released before call of crap their population have awlays surged until the release of a CoD game yearly all console games populations have dropped.

all I hear in came chat is how people cant wait for fall out star wars and call of duty no mentioning of the new DLC for ESO.
almost my entire guild of 300 people will be done with ESO when fall out hits.

fixing the current state of ESO PvP will not fix the population.

no I cant wait to see how dumb you feel when the pop on ESO drops when CoD lands.

I've not heard any of that one time in zone or guild chat. I'm in 4 guilds of 450 plus and one small one. But I'm on pc/na so maybe its a difference in demographics from platform to platform.

jello · October 2015

most vets will stay. most new players will leave. too much grinding. simple.

PBpsy · October 2015

Waffennacht wrote: »

The players that leave, at least from the guilds I'm apart of, have only played a few hours or days. They never truly invested in the game and never would put as much in.

Same with Neverwinter, just randomly check the roster and see the levels and last active. Tons start but don't keep up.

It takes a certain player to put in over 300 hours in a game and still be half way lol.

Im not worried at all

I guess guilds full with Vr14 -16 players that haven't logged in months have played the game only for hours.

DenMoria · October 2015

jello wrote: »

most vets will stay. most new players will leave. too much grinding. simple.

Does that not bode ill for the Community as a whole if new players leave and only the old-timers stick around?

The inbreeding alone could lead to some confusing mutations.

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO · October 2015

Even the old players who have been playing since the betas have left the game coz of this patch. Overly simplistic approach towards the important changes on zos' part. Can;t blame the players for leaving, coz zos is just focusing on getting more money out of this game until it dies.

Jbugz97 · October 2015

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Even the old players who have been playing since the betas have left the game coz of this patch. Overly simplistic approach towards the important changes on zos' part. Can;t blame the players for leaving, coz zos is just focusing on getting more money out of this game until it dies.

so sad but its true more & more its looking like your right about these we just love the game so much that we try and not believe it but thats were its heading too

Theosis · October 2015

I loved ESO when it first came out. It was exciting, and it was something original.

I just happened to log into the forums out of boredom. Many of us just don't play anymore as it feels cheap of them to nickle and dime us over more tedious grinds especially when there is no real content to level from.

They take out a huge nerf bat and beat down any area that might make the grind faster so that we can enjoy the end game. Adding two levels for a pvp patch is just about as wonderful as pulling out a tooth without novocaine. Why would they make us level for pvp?? seriously that was a bad choice..

In the end though, its the same game it always was and I feel tired of it for now and I know that many of us are feeling that way.

rager82b14_ESO · October 2015

I don't play this game as much because LOL pvp focus. When I tried to get others to play I get asked three things.

How is end game?
Is Dark Brotherhood or Thieves Guild out?
Do they have a Global AH yet?

People tend to not care.

DigitalEulogy · October 2015

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Even the old players who have been playing since the betas have left the game coz of this patch. Overly simplistic approach towards the important changes on zos' part. Can;t blame the players for leaving, coz zos is just focusing on getting more money out of this game until it dies.

^This is 100% why I don't play anymore. I was in on the beta tests and played ESO a few months into their B2P model and I just can't do it anymore. All the signs are there that they are going down the road your mentioning. I had such high hopes for this game too.

Funkopotamus · October 2015

rager82b14_ESO wrote: »

I don't play this game as much because LOL pvp focus. When I tried to get others to play I get asked three things.

How is end game?
Is Dark Brotherhood or Thieves Guild out?
Do they have a Global AH yet?

People tend to not care.

Same thing happened to me a few weeks ago. I was tanking CW in Neverwinter and asked if anyone played ESO.. I was laughed at and told that ESO was NOT a MMO. I asked them to explain. They said
ESO doesn't have Text Chat to group or even grow a player based economy,
ESO's end game dungeons are nothing compared to Neverwinters as ESO's EGC is all ZURG button smash DPS races with very little mechanics.
ESO offers little to no incentive for grouping. and the group finder is broken.

Sharakor wrote: »

PvP is completely dead, the population overall has decreased by at least 70%. ZOS made some of the worst choices they could ever make, they completely ruined the game EVEN for the "noobs" they aimed to help with those horrid things they called updates.

I wouldn't say 70%, but it has taken a huge hit. I know a lot of QUALITY members of this community that have left. Out of the 45 people on my friends list that I have played MMO's with over the years and they all bought ESO.. Only 6 of them are still playing ESO. Those people were all adults and have been playing MMO's since EQ and Asherons Call.

All of us couldn't wait to play ESO. Most of us were sitting here June 9th when the servers went live. When I ask them why they left ESO they just reference the above^^ BabiesFirstMMO is a popular description that is used by a few.

Most of them are getting their console fix in NW.
I am still here hoping things get better with ESO. ZOS has a make it or break it chance coming up with the holiday's coming up.

abhimat1999rwb17_ESO wrote: »

Even the old players who have been playing since the betas have left the game coz of this patch. Overly simplistic approach towards the important changes on zos' part. Can;t blame the players for leaving, coz zos is just focusing on getting more money out of this game until it dies.

I honestly hope that you are wrong! ZOS throwing this out and milking it dry before folding would be a huge mistake. ZOS just needs to make a large amount of changes in a short amount of time.

ESO could still be a great game and make gaming history. Most of us "The players" are willing to be patient if we only knew our patience would be rewarded with a great game. Sadly many are giving up.

newtinmpls · October 2015

Sting864 wrote: »

Didn't the PvPers say IC was in effect "their yard," and PvEers should wait until a PvE DLC came out? IC is small scale PvP. I've gone in with a few groups and had a blast... However, it isn't like large scale PvP against a bunch of anonymous enemies. It's more like the WWE, you have to communicate and work with your "enemy" to be effective and really have fun... That's part of the challenge in sports/gaming entertainment...

I've had more fun PvPing in IC than I ever did in upper Cyrodiil

icontested · October 2015

Factor in 10k views on the recent EU Megaserver hiccup. If you figure that's not everyone from EU, not including the console and NA populations in those 10k views, this game has plenty of population. I see new names at the undaunted pledge area every week.

The world does not revolve around you.

Callous2208 · October 2015

icontested wrote: »

Factor in 10k views on the recent EU Megaserver hiccup. If you figure that's not everyone from EU, not including the console and NA populations in those 10k views, this game has plenty of population. I see new names at the undaunted pledge area every week.

The world does not revolve around you.

This is the point I always try to make but I'm quickly flamed or written off as a fanboy who is ignoring the "facts." You know about facts right? Those numbers and statements the same 30 people spew out in every whine thread. Those awesome folks who have supposedly left the game but still honor us by coming to the forums every day to teach us how dumb we are for liking a game. Internet heroes, with vast inside knowledge of population and overall opinion of the populous, based on information gleaned from a tiny population of players that use the forums. Those chosen few, who have found the mmo promised land with their new game, although stalking the forum of this one proves to be more rewarding than playing that aforementioned game.

Careful not to rattle their cage with that "world doesn't revolve around you," line. They hunt in packs.

icontested · October 2015

Callous2208 wrote: »

icontested wrote: »

Factor in 10k views on the recent EU Megaserver hiccup. If you figure that's not everyone from EU, not including the console and NA populations in those 10k views, this game has plenty of population. I see new names at the undaunted pledge area every week.

The world does not revolve around you.

This is the point I always try to make but I'm quickly flamed or written off as a fanboy who is ignoring the "facts." You know about facts right? Those numbers and statements the same 30 people spew out in every whine thread. Those awesome folks who have supposedly left the game but still honor us by coming to the forums every day to teach us how dumb we are for liking a game. Internet heroes, with vast inside knowledge of population and overall opinion of the populous, based on information gleaned from a tiny population of players that use the forums. Those chosen few, who have found the mmo promised land with their new game, although stalking the forum of this one proves to be more rewarding than playing that aforementioned game.

Careful not to rattle their cage with that "world doesn't revolve around you," line. They hunt in packs.

What's to hunt? The forums aren't fun because its pure complaining. If you are in game we are on the same page so I'm cool. Thanks though brotha