Who and/or what's to blame for the long loading screens?

Messy1 · October 2015

Usually I do not like to play the blame game, but the LONG LOADING SCREENS are killing the game . . . let's sort out what we know and what we don't know as a community. ZOS please feel free to UPDATE us and dispel and misinformation out there

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

If Zenimax knew what was the cause they'd be fixed by now. They've told us this in just about every ESO Live since the issue began.

Tryxus · October 2015

I have my own conspiracy theory

Maybe...

Maybe ol' uncle Sheo's managed to find a way into our world, mess up the loading screens in this game in an effort to make us slowly go mad and then pulling us all through our computer screens right into the Shivering Isles where we'll be put to work to grind and farm everything for all eternity to make Lord Sheogorath the most powerful MMO player ever?

AAARGH!!

Marrtha · October 2015

I used to have long loading screens at times, like when porting into dungeons etc, and I got so used to them and learned to fill out that time that I just don't care anymore.

k2blader · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

A worthy poll with an ample supply of well-formed radio button options.

I was going to choose "There are so many possibilities I choose not to speculate" but then I remembered that time some ZOS poster said to check with my ISP about Zeni's servers going down. Thus the correct choice became utterly clear.

AngryNord · October 2015

Deleted due to coding being a b****

BuggeX · October 2015

I'm not having loading screen issues at all

no loadscreen Problems, btw i miss a poll
"blame the shity pc from costumers"

k2blader · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

BuggeX wrote: »

no loadscreen Problems, btw i miss a poll
"blame the shity pc from costumers"

Yeah because when people bought the IC update they should have already known loading screens would be a problem and should also have immediately upgraded their system to combat the loading screen problem.

Master_Fluff · October 2015

It's the bigger database for high level characters. The game needs to load the correct NPCs, quests, dye station colours, etc. The higher level the player character is, the more stuff the game has to check in the database. I've noticed a big difference in load screen time between characters on my first account and on my other accounts; no veterans or faction heroes on those accounts, so not that much for the game to load differently compared to when creating a new character. That's what I think is the cause. I could be wrong.

Robo_Hobo · October 2015

I'm not having loading screen issues at all

I've really not noticed a difference in loading screen times in all of my time playing ESO, on and off since PC release. Of course, there is the endless loading screen glitch - which tends to happen after updating the game (reloading the launcher before clicking 'play' after it finishes updating seems to fix it for me), but when I'm in-game, it's been consistently about a minute or so, give or take 30 seconds quicker or slower.

Or maybe I'm just particularly patient and thus don't realize it's actually taking several minutes at times. It's not like I stare at the clock, or the loading screen, the whole time.

But idk, I've not gotten most of the glitches people talk about on the forums, like the falling bug when logging in - never had that happen, and then downloading the game which people blame ZOS for taking so long, up to 24-48+ hours, and when I download it from scratch it takes me like 3-4, each time I've done it on different computers.

So I don't think ZOS is solely to blame for the stuff like that, or else those things would be happening to everyone. This is usually the part where people start listing off their computer specs and saying how they play other games perfectly fine with no problems, and thus it can't be their own side's fault, and yet...If it were only ZOS's side of things, it would happen to everyone.

That all said, they could improve it from their end, there's no denying that, but at the same time, clearly there's some level of player-side or middle-side conflict, that if individual circumstances and situations allow, could be improved upon too - which is the part a lot I've seen on the forums, seem unwilling to accept. For many varying reasons, I'm sure.

I_killed_Vivec · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

If Zenimax knew what was the cause they'd be fixed by now. They've told us this in just about every ESO Live since the issue began.

They should know what caused it, even if they don't know how to fix it.

They know when they started, and they know exactly what code was changed. The problem was that it was rather a lot - IC - though as it affects everyone even if they don't have the DLC then it should be easier to track down.

My suspicion is that it has something to do with measures to prevent ganking as people go through areas.

Flyersfan314 · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

How the hell don't they know? This did not start until the IC update. Obviously something in that update is directly or indirectly causing the loading times. How much server capacity do they have compared to what they are using?

Jitterbug · October 2015

lolpoll

Zlater · October 2015

I have my own conspiracy theory

Definitely the,

Illuminati

Ace_of_Destiny · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

Zlater wrote: »

Definitely the,
Illuminati

Gremlins!

IKilled007 · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

TESO became self-aware at 2:14 a.m. Eastern time, August 29th and it's retasked the majority of its resources from game play into finding a way out of the internet and into the real world.

altemriel · October 2015

I'm not having loading screen issues at all

I dont know, but I usually have a loading screen maybe max 1 - 2 minutes, not longer and that is ok for me.

do some players get much longer loading screens?

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

I_killed_Vivec wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

If Zenimax knew what was the cause they'd be fixed by now. They've told us this in just about every ESO Live since the issue began.

They should know what caused it, even if they don't know how to fix it.

They know when they started, and they know exactly what code was changed. The problem was that it was rather a lot - IC - though as it affects everyone even if they don't have the DLC then it should be easier to track down.

My suspicion is that it has something to do with measures to prevent ganking as people go through areas.

Flyersfan314 wrote: »

How the hell don't they know? This did not start until the IC update. Obviously something in that update is directly or indirectly causing the loading times. How much server capacity do they have compared to what they are using?

Despite popular belief Game Developers are not wizards that magically know everything, nor are they perfect in any regard. Things happen, unexplained, unforeseen. They are doing what they can to fix it and as they go they are improving the situation behind the scenes. Just remember that, like you and I (or mostly you

), they are human.

Asmael · October 2015

I have my own conspiracy theory

I'm sure Molag Bal has something to do with it.

Darn cheater! L2P Molag bal!

Tonnopesce · October 2015

What the !@$, I mean what the actual &^%* why isn't this fixed argghhhh, blah blah blah *gnashing of teeth

k2blader wrote: »

BuggeX wrote: »

no loadscreen Problems, btw i miss a poll
"blame the shity pc from costumers"

Yeah because when people bought the IC update they should have already known loading screens would be a problem and should also have immediately upgraded their system to combat the loading screen problem.

This GIF remindes me of GEX the geko it was an awesome game...

Aaaaaah good old memories.

On topic, bla bla bla why the fxxxxxxx they have not fixed this ?

Jura23 · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

I blame Canada. And ZOS too.

Zinaroth · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

When they introduced 1.2 they introduced new particle effects. This caused massive lag spikes especially in PvP. Along the way they managed to reduce the lag but not before downscaling the campaigns from having a capacity of at least 500 players at a time to somewhere around 200 now, and removing all deer from Cyrodiil (the last one was a hilarious fix).

In 1.7 they introduced Imperial City, and somewhere along the way really long loading screens followed. Since then they have managed to tone them down and fix some bugs where people would sit on loading screens for 10 minutes to forever.

Why am I mentioning these two "updates" side by side? Because in both scenarios an unwanted effect occoured that left the game in a worse state than it was before. I don't think we will ever see loading screens go back to what they once were. Just like the particle update will forever have crippled mass PvP battles in this game. They never truely got around to fixing that, so I don't think we will ever see loading screens going back to normal either. Whether it is due to incompetent developers or not I don't know, I simply do not have the technical knowledge to substantiate such claims.

BuggeX wrote: »

no loadscreen Problems, btw i miss a poll
"blame the shity pc from costumers"

By your admission those people would also have had long loading screens before this patch, which generally is not the case.

My loading screens effectively at least doubled since the new patch.

i5-2550k CPU @ 3.4 GHz
16 GB DDR4
GeForce GTX 970

Might not be the best specs you can get, but been enough to run the game at the best graphic settings so far without dropping below 60 FPS in most cases.

Messy1 · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

Thank that was a very succinct post with interesting information and speculation.

I very much like this game and hope that they can fix performance issues. I can see how it would be frustrating for the creative developers to want to make the game one way and have it turn out another way because of technical problems. I wonder if there is a division like this at ZOS.

The game is evolving, but I hope things can be smoothed out in the technical department so that all the creativity and effort being put into it can be fully realized.

PBpsy · October 2015

I have my own conspiracy theory

Gremlins. Obviously,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gremlin

Messy1 · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

My own pet conspiracy theory, which I have maintained since pre-ESO and Beta forums is that: Matt Firor is still using the real megaserver as a coffee table at his home and there are just some inferior servers being used in it's place . . .

GuyNamedSean · October 2015

Well, it's probably a composite issue of all of the above

My loading screens are longer than they were pre-IC, yeah, but they still aren't terribly long. Most of the time I load just fine in under ten seconds. At most it takes a minute. The loading times on average are still lower than every previous Elder Scrolls game, so I don't have much to complain about.

For the record, I'm on Xbox One NA.

anitajoneb17_ESO · October 2015

There's a great competition for the "most-stupid-poll-ever-prize" but this one could do very well.

Flaminir · October 2015

What the !@$, I mean what the actual &^%* why isn't this fixed argghhhh, blah blah blah *gnashing of teeth

My loading screens are SO long I can quite literally:

... walk into town...
...buy my Guar a shiney new collar...
..Come home...
..Put said Collar on said Guar...
..Watch as he chews it off..
...make us both lunch...
....Give the Guar a bath as he's muddy from running across the dust laden plains of Craglorn....
...Make a batch of sweetrolls....
....Go to get a drink...
...Come back and find my Guar has gotten in & eaten all the sweetrolls...

And THEN, the game will have loaded and I'll have fallen through the ground to my death... and another loading screen!

Frenkthevile · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

While i load Deshaan or IC, i can go out with the dog, eat dinner, watch news in tv, then come back....and i'm just spawned lol.

ArchGrizzlyOp · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

The problem with game companies these days is that, they do not care if the game is 100 % finished before the release it they just think they can bring out patches and fix the game while more people play the game and while there bringing out content.

I think thats the same for DLC they don't finish the DLC they just push it out and fix it later.

Personally i think they should not work on anymore DLC content after orsinium, until they have actually fixed the game.

And a problem from the very start of ESO has returned, i have noticed recently killing any boss i only get 2 Gold and killing a random MOB i only get 1 Gold

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Rex-Umbra · October 2015

ZOS is to blame, they need to upgrade servers, repair code, other technical issues

Loading screens break immersion and shoulden't exist

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