Where are the pvp devs?

smee_z · October 2015

@ZOS_BrianWheeler DC

Rayste · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Thanks for the post. So it looks like fixing the lag and server consolidation are something we will see in the short term. Cheers.

Additional objectives for cyro a bit longer. I can live with this.

Perphection · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Serious question. Would you consider resigning?

This game needs help and I don't think many people have confidence in you, and your team anymore.

Ezareth · October 2015

Perphection wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Serious question. Would you consider resigning?

This game needs help and I don't think many people have confidence in you, and your team anymore.

What an assanine request. Seriously, speak for yourself. I've never heard Brian say a thing I didn't agree with on anything about PvP. The issues in PvP unfortunately lie outside of his realm of control. There is a world of difference between creating PvP content and objectives and Combat mechanics as well as game engine limitations.

SleepyTroll · October 2015

Perphection wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Serious question. Would you consider resigning?

This game needs help and I don't think many people have confidence in you, and your team anymore.

He seems like the only person who even cares about pvp/ alliance war on the dev team, and you want him to resign?

Skorol007 · October 2015

Perphection wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Serious question. Would you consider resigning?

This game needs help and I don't think many people have confidence in you, and your team anymore.

We don't need people like you in the forums. Please restrain from posting.

Cinnamon_Spider · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Thank you for taking time to communicate with us. And if you need a Healbot for that DC, lmk

Soulac · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

SleepyTroll · October 2015

Perphection wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Perphection wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Serious question. Would you consider resigning?

This game needs help and I don't think many people have confidence in you, and your team anymore.

He seems like the only person who even cares about pvp/ alliance war on the dev team, and you want him to resign?

Absolutely. I wouldn't have asked if I wasn't serious. This game doesn't need someone who "cares", this game needs someone who's actually out playing PvP rather than leveling a DC toon.

This game needs someone who's willing to bridge the gap between the PvP and the Combat team. This game needs someone who would have fought to revert the lighting patch during the great 1.4 mass exodus. This game doesn't need someone who "cares", this game need someone who gets *** done. Someone who will explain to the combat team why certain PvP abilities (Prox Det specifically), need to be PvP only abilities so that they can serve their intended purpose and not be abused in PvE encounters.

But no... let's all keep blindly following and supporting these devs, it's worked out great haha.

...Dam, I think your right. But your first post was kinda dickish.

Ezareth · October 2015

Perphection wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Perphection wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Serious question. Would you consider resigning?

This game needs help and I don't think many people have confidence in you, and your team anymore.

He seems like the only person who even cares about pvp/ alliance war on the dev team, and you want him to resign?

Absolutely. I wouldn't have asked if I wasn't serious. This game doesn't need someone who "cares", this game needs someone who's actually out playing PvP rather than leveling a DC toon.

This game needs someone who's willing to bridge the gap between the PvP and the Combat team. This game needs someone who would have fought to revert the lighting patch during the great 1.4 mass exodus. This game doesn't need someone who "cares", this game need someone who gets *** done. Someone who will explain to the combat team why certain PvP abilities (Prox Det specifically), need to be PvP only abilities so that they can serve their intended purpose and not be abused in PvE encounters.

But no... let's all keep blindly following and supporting these devs, it's worked out great haha.

I never said to blindly support anyone, only that asking someone to "resign" as if they had done wrong was both ignorant and assanine for reasons that should be obvious to you. I'm as pissed off at the whole state of the game as anyone and I've lost far more friends in this game than I still have remaining but when I said that I haven't seen Brian say anything that I didn't agree with I meant it. When Brian starts talking nonsense, I'll be the first to call him or any dev out on it but the only things he's done in this forum is relay information and tell us things *he* can help with. If that doesn't tell you his hands are tied, I don't know what does but you don't shoot the messengers and when a guy sticks his neck out to give you exactly what we've been asking for (communication) you don't take a swing at it. There's a reason the devs and community managers alike avoid this forum like the plague.

If you want to place the blame on someone's you'll need to get the right person. Fact is, we don't know who is calling the shots for these changes. Perhaps major combat decisions are voted on upon a group of people including brass at the top. We'd just be guessing and so to single out any individual for blame without any evidence serves no purpose whatsoever.

About the only thing I can blame Brian for at this point is he still hasn't fixed the damn hole of doom in the water outside of BloodMayne but that's small potatoes.

k2blader · October 2015

KennanTheCold wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Who are they? Where are they? Are they the ones that got laid off? What are they working on? All we ever here about is pve... No but for real who are the pvp/alliance war devs?

^ This
IC is lacking in the PvP department, there are no objectives at all, and it was the one "PvP" based update. So where are the alliance war/PvP devs?

Did people provide this kind of feedback during the IC PTS? Because all I really saw was support of IC, how it's going to be so great, etc. If there was any feedback like the complaints I see nowadays I guess it got buried by other stuff.

Soulac · October 2015

k2blader wrote: »

KennanTheCold wrote: »

SleepyTroll wrote: »

Who are they? Where are they? Are they the ones that got laid off? What are they working on? All we ever here about is pve... No but for real who are the pvp/alliance war devs?

^ This
IC is lacking in the PvP department, there are no objectives at all, and it was the one "PvP" based update. So where are the alliance war/PvP devs?

Did people provide this kind of feedback during the IC PTS? Because all I really saw was support of IC, how it's going to be so great, etc. If there was any feedback like the complaints I see nowadays I guess it got buried by other stuff.

There was. Plenty of it.

Mumyo · October 2015

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

I hope they are busy, Brian wheeler has been pretty good about popping into the forums when he has the time, and just waiting on some things he talked about coming up in incremental patches to start happening. With a DLC about to release even one that is not pvp centric, I am sure the staff is pretty busy right now.

When he was in the eso live talk, he gave 0 answers, seriously ZEROOOOO! He dodged everything and vanished.

Jitterbug · October 2015

Mumyo wrote: »

kevlarto_ESO wrote: »

I hope they are busy, Brian wheeler has been pretty good about popping into the forums when he has the time, and just waiting on some things he talked about coming up in incremental patches to start happening. With a DLC about to release even one that is not pvp centric, I am sure the staff is pretty busy right now.

When he was in the eso live talk, he gave 0 answers, seriously ZEROOOOO! He dodged everything and vanished.

I seriously think he holds no real power in the Lead group of people. He is just the guy who's responsible for making the Combat teams' mess as playable as possible. He gets things like AoE caps and lightning patches shoved down his throat and then gets yelled at on the forums for PvP not working.
Then he'll go over to Wroebels office and be like "it's not working, bro", and Wroebel will be like "oh, I know but watch me melt these steel beams!"

Jitterbug · October 2015

Perphection wrote: »

I'm blunt and don't see the point in beating around the bush.

Consider this.

When this game started there was no DSA, Sanctum, Dailies, there wasn't end game PvE. PvE had to be created over the course of the following year while they neglected PvP. PvP was the end game.

So, where was the PvP team then? I didn't see any updates, did you? If Wheeler and the PvP team don't address combat, they didn't have a hand in the PvP nerfs because "those are balance issues handled by the combat team", as Wheeler continually states. So what's been done?

So while yes, this game lost players due to the state the game was launched in, the lack of PvE to accommodate those not interested in PvP, the truth is this game lost most of it players because of the PvP.

Sure the base game is good, that's why some of us are still here. But honestly, it's time for some fresh blood. A team with a new vision, and the balls to make some changes. Because I highly doubt they're going to revert to the netcode that worked, because they'd rather prevent some people from cheating than have a flourishing game, and these updated lighting effects just look so damn good =|

I just think if people aren't doing their job or aren't doing a good job it's time to cut them loose.

Alright, now come defend your holy Devs my fearless White Knights!

Okay, I don't want to agree with you, but you are doing that annoying thing with making sense and using logic...
But how about this; give Wheeler some actual true power over how his PvP is done, including how abilities work in Cyrodiil. As I see it all he can do is pick up scraps on Wroebels office floor.

JaJaLuka · October 2015

Soulac wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

Hehe, if Ron were a dev the game would more than likely turn into a mutant that jumped from the screen to strangle you XD

Armitas · October 2015

Perphection wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

There are a few things in the patch/update after Orisneum to address some quality of life issues for Campaigns/Cyrodiil as well as including some changes to ability logic and how abilities interact with physics processes.

For Orsinium Imperial City got a few fixes for "ladder gankers" as well as making the daily quests concurrent. Your requests for a capturable district as well as gated access to IC across the board has not fallen on def ears, however there are no plans to change that at this time. Several things currently getting worked on for Campaign population/number of Campaigns offered needs to get finished before changing IC rules across the board. Other discussions are still on going regarding Town Capture in Cyrodiil, more objectives/flags for Cyrodiil, and improvements to what you can spend your AP on.

Dev Tracker, for a while, didn't function with posts Rich or I made on the forums unless we tagged Gina/Jess/Jason/Kai to flag them each individually and they're already hammered with their jobs so we didn't bother them constantly. This was recently fixed and we Devs can now Dev Track our posts again. No conspiracy or anything, just gremlins.

Regarding my personal play time, I am leveling up another character in DC, just not streaming it.

Serious question. Would you consider resigning?

This game needs help and I don't think many people have confidence in you, and your team anymore.

Yeah, tell the only Dev out there providing any communication to resign. Stop just stop. That is our 1 ally in ZOS you just insulted. The game doesn't get better by insulting them, it gets better by communication, and posts like yours are holding that back for all of us.

Amica · October 2015

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

Nice way to pass the buck mate

ZOS_GinaBruno · October 2015

Amica wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

Nice way to pass the buck mate

It's not passing the buck if it's true.

As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.

Jitterbug · October 2015

Could you send Wrobel in here then please?

mjspnrb18_ESO · October 2015

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler , thank you both for communicating with us, these are the sort of updates we need!

Legedric · October 2015

Jitterbug wrote: »

Could you send Wrobel in here then please?

He doesn't even have an official account (nothing new for you, I know) and everything Wrobel did so far was absolutely contra-productive for PvP so everyone expecting something valid and positive from him must be new to ESO, sorry...

So I agree to Soulac if someone tries to tell me that Eric Wrobel "is listening" the only reaction coming to my mind is this:

Darnathian · October 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Amica wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

Nice way to pass the buck mate

It's not passing the buck if it's true. As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.

Okay. Well AoE Cap is a rule right? We want that gone. 3500 to 500 people said a year ago it was going to cause them to leave.

So can whoever is the person that makes that decision please join in the discussion?

Because from the player base posts, overwhelmingly we want it gone. There are only pro's. No con's as far as we can see. Unless we are missing something you all see we dont.

Please have them join the discussion. It may not be passing the buck but no one would say that if the person responsible would join discussions.

darock55 · October 2015

You know what ZoS Brian Wheeler, this game is the most mis-managed, most horribly programmed game I have ever EVER seen in my life. You and your team are so FN pathetic it has become funny. The only reason I continue to play is that there is no other MMORPG out there... and you and your little team of "programmers" know this, and continue to do nothing. Lets see, whats wrong with the game:

-Game Lockups after waiting 1 *** minute (which is also seriously messed up) during the loading screen.
- Random dismounts in PvP while riding your mount.. YAY
- NB's Ambushing right into a keep
-
These are just some of the things you and your band of "programmers" fail at fixing. How pathetic. There are so many things wrong with the game that it comes down to PURE NEGLIGENCE, and to be honest what you and your team fail to do, it should be considered a crime and there should be lawsuits flying.

And whats really even more pathetic and sad that this? The fact that when in the past you fixed some issues, NEW ISSUES POP UP... I don't even have words for how bad you and your team FAIL.

Frawr · October 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Amica wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

Nice way to pass the buck mate

It's not passing the buck if it's true. As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

It would be awesome if he could give us some of his thoughts on the recent discussions that have taken place.

There has been some really constructive (if passionate) discussion recently with regard to balance, aoe caps, arena pvp etc and It would be fantastic to hear the relevant devs' points of view on these issues.

For example, the pvp Arena:

I have heard that the arena is not implemented on live because zos wants us to use Cyrodiil. Cyrodiil is bad at the moment for reasons discussed and so the result is that people want an arena.

Ultimately zos's goal is profit and repeatable Content (such as arena plus leagues and leaderboards) is a fantastic way to keep people interested and paying. Arguably this will generate more cash than continuing with the status quo.

This doesn't need rng loot and league tables would allow people to fight similarly - skilled players, thus providing a balanced experience for all. This would achieve the goal of catering to the many.

Cyrodiil performance

This tanked with the lighting patch. Whatever caused it, whatever was in that patch caused performance to be poor and the game has been frustrating ever since.

Please communicate with us. What caused this and what can be done to fix it?

Darnathian · October 2015

Frawr wrote: »

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Amica wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

Nice way to pass the buck mate

It's not passing the buck if it's true. As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler

It would be awesome if he could give us some of his thoughts on the recent discussions that have taken place.

There has been some really constructive (if passionate) discussion recently with regard to balance, aoe caps, arena pvp etc and It would be fantastic to hear the relevant devs' points of view on these issues.

For example, the pvp Arena:

I have heard that the arena is not implemented on live because zos wants us to use Cyrodiil. Cyrodiil is bad at the moment for reasons discussed and so the result is that people want an arena.

Ultimately zos's goal is profit and repeatable Content (such as arena plus leagues and leaderboards) is a fantastic way to keep people interested and paying. Arguably this will generate more cash than continuing with the status quo.

This doesn't need rng loot and league tables would allow people to fight similarly - skilled players, thus providing a balanced experience for all. This would achieve the goal of catering to the many.

Cyrodiil performance

This tanked with the lighting patch. Whatever caused it, whatever was in that patch caused performance to be poor and the game has been frustrating ever since.

Please communicate with us. What caused this and what can be done to fix it?

How do Arena's generate cash?

Efficient · October 2015

mjspnrb18_ESO wrote: »

@ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_BrianWheeler , thank you both for communicating with us, these are the sort of updates we need!

Why are you thanking them? For giving you another run around? The people who need to change things are evidently completely absent from the forums and refuse to communicate with us. They are one company, they should be able to communicate as a team, and even if Wrobel could care less about PvP and the community (which I would hope is not true), Brian and Gina should be able to get answers from them, timelines, and provide us feedback. The simple... oh its on them is ridiculous.

Bashev · October 2015

ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »

Amica wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

AE caps and anything ability related are Wrobel and the combat gang. They do look at the posts, polls and watch streams too.

Nice way to pass the buck mate

It's not passing the buck if it's true. As Wheeler's explained before, he's in charge of the rules and systems for PvP. Actual abilities belong to Wrobel - doesn't matter where those abilities happen, whether it's in Cyrodiil or PvE spaces.

So for what is responsible Wheeler? For the campaign scoring? Almost nobody cares about it, because there is no rewards which are worthy. He was also responsible for the Forward camps and for the mercenariness but they are gone too.
It is clear that in the current model PvP do not generate cash for ZoS so they will not try to invest a lot of effort. What is the point to communicate with @ZOS_BrianWheeler as he has no power to do any changes. ZoS send somebody to the forums who can communicate with us.

Manoekin · October 2015

darock55 wrote: »

You know what ZoS Brian Wheeler, this game is the most mis-managed, most horribly programmed game I have ever EVER seen in my life. You and your team are so FN pathetic it has become funny. The only reason I continue to play is that there is no other MMORPG out there... and you and your little team of "programmers" know this, and continue to do nothing. Lets see, whats wrong with the game:

-Game Lockups after waiting 1 *** minute (which is also seriously messed up) during the loading screen.
- Random dismounts in PvP while riding your mount.. YAY
- NB's Ambushing right into a keep
-
These are just some of the things you and your band of "programmers" fail at fixing. How pathetic. There are so many things wrong with the game that it comes down to PURE NEGLIGENCE, and to be honest what you and your team fail to do, it should be considered a crime and there should be lawsuits flying.

And whats really even more pathetic and sad that this? The fact that when in the past you fixed some issues, NEW ISSUES POP UP... I don't even have words for how bad you and your team FAIL.

Shut up before I sic Asgari on you.

This isn't the #killzos thread.

Bashev · October 2015

Manoekin wrote: »

darock55 wrote: »

You know what ZoS Brian Wheeler, this game is the most mis-managed, most horribly programmed game I have ever EVER seen in my life. You and your team are so FN pathetic it has become funny. The only reason I continue to play is that there is no other MMORPG out there... and you and your little team of "programmers" know this, and continue to do nothing. Lets see, whats wrong with the game:

-Game Lockups after waiting 1 *** minute (which is also seriously messed up) during the loading screen.
- Random dismounts in PvP while riding your mount.. YAY
- NB's Ambushing right into a keep
-
These are just some of the things you and your band of "programmers" fail at fixing. How pathetic. There are so many things wrong with the game that it comes down to PURE NEGLIGENCE, and to be honest what you and your team fail to do, it should be considered a crime and there should be lawsuits flying.

And whats really even more pathetic and sad that this? The fact that when in the past you fixed some issues, NEW ISSUES POP UP... I don't even have words for how bad you and your team FAIL.

Shut up before I sic Asgari on you.

This isn't the #killzos thread.

It is not but you cannot say either that white is black. I think @darock55 has a good point. I do not how he wrote his comment but it is the sad true.