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Hybrid Templar Build?
I thought about a build this morning, a Templar with 2 handed as main weapon, healing staff as my off. My race would be dark elf for the ambidextrous racial. I like the idea of the build very much, I like getting up close and ripping enemies up, but at the same time I enjoy doing healing. I figured this build would also give me flexibility for different situations. While looking some stuff up, though, I read that hybrid builds aren't good at all and leave you gimped. My big questions are if this build is viable in late-game pvp (I don't care if it isn't the meta), and if it is how should I distribute my points?
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Reznique✭✭✭✭Just do it to make sure it doesn't work and that you wasted your last 100+ hrs doing nothing
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Just do it to make sure it doesn't work and that you wasted your last 100+ hrs doing nothing
I'm not sure where I am going with this build, as I haven't really made a character by myself. I look up builds, and I eventually get tired of the characters after 10-20 levels. I just want to make sure what I am doing won't go to being a huge waste of time.0 -
Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭You can go dw instead of 2h and full magicka, but not sure if that's what you wanted. But that would be efective for sure. No weapon skills though.
For some reason dw give more spell power I heard.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU0 -
Stigant✭✭✭✭hey . you will be quite dissapointed while:
1. You realize that Ambidexterous just gives you faster skill line leveling, doesn't give any real benefits at high-end, not to mention it worsk for DW(dual wield) not 2H (2 handed) weapons
2. It's better to use Templar heals over Resto Staff heals on Templar
3. Find out that your damage with weapon abilities is insufficient and your heals as well.
Althought its actually quite possible to make a Magicka build with either DW or 2H (provided it would be swords or a greatsword) as a DPS weapon of choice while usind magicka morphs of melee class abilities (puncturing sweep mainly), so you wil be very close to your enemy while doing damage and as a secondary weapon you can use either S&B or Resto Staff (for some solid magicka return from heavy attacks) as heals and support abilities/spells bar.
using combination of Heavy and Light armor (5/2 or 2/5) would work best I belive0 -
hey . you will be quite dissapointed while:
1. You realize that Ambidexterous just gives you faster skill line leveling, doesn't give any real benefits at high-end, not to mention it worsk for DW(dual wield) not 2H (2 handed) weapons
2. It's better to use Templar heals over Resto Staff heals on Templar
3. Find out that your damage with weapon abilities is insufficient and your heals as well.
Althought its actually quite possible to make a Magicka build with either DW or 2H (provided it would be swords or a greatsword) as a DPS weapon of choice while usind magicka morphs of melee class abilities (puncturing sweep mainly), so you wil be very close to your enemy while doing damage and as a secondary weapon you can use either S&B or Resto Staff (for some solid magicka return from heavy attacks) as heals and support abilities/spells bar.
using combination of Heavy and Light armor (5/2 or 2/5) would work best I belive
Sorry, I meant to say dynamic, not ambidextrous. I was planning on using templar skills for healing anyways as well.0 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭hey . you will be quite dissapointed while:
1. You realize that Ambidexterous just gives you faster skill line leveling, doesn't give any real benefits at high-end, not to mention it worsk for DW(dual wield) not 2H (2 handed) weapons
2. It's better to use Templar heals over Resto Staff heals on Templar
3. Find out that your damage with weapon abilities is insufficient and your heals as well.
Althought its actually quite possible to make a Magicka build with either DW or 2H (provided it would be swords or a greatsword) as a DPS weapon of choice while usind magicka morphs of melee class abilities (puncturing sweep mainly), so you wil be very close to your enemy while doing damage and as a secondary weapon you can use either S&B or Resto Staff (for some solid magicka return from heavy attacks) as heals and support abilities/spells bar.
using combination of Heavy and Light armor (5/2 or 2/5) would work best I belive
Been there, done that
Recent semi hybrid video:
https://youtu.be/EWfOC8kf_O0
Full hybrid video from 1.5:
https://youtu.be/gXkbIriBFpQ
Full hybrid builds can still work, though I believe it would require alot of CP. At least 501, which is the soon to be limit on CP.
The issue with why people think hybrid builds can't work is because they want to have high weapon and high spell damage. Which is an epic waste of stat placement imo. What I've done to make these builds work is to focus on either weapon or spell damage, not both, and use your non-dps resource for support/heals only.
Edited by Akinos on October 25, 2015 9:51AMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.1 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.Edited by Akinos on October 25, 2015 4:28PMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
mr_wazzabi✭✭✭✭✭
✭I thought about a build this morning, a Templar with 2 handed as main weapon, healing staff as my off. My race would be dark elf for the ambidextrous racial. I like the idea of the build very much, I like getting up close and ripping enemies up, but at the same time I enjoy doing healing. I figured this build would also give me flexibility for different situations. While looking some stuff up, though, I read that hybrid builds aren't good at all and leave you gimped. My big questions are if this build is viable in late-game pvp (I don't care if it isn't the meta), and if it is how should I distribute my points?
Unfortunately, zenimax decided to scale damage in this game off the resource pool used by the ability, which is either stamina or magicka. Because of this, if you make a hybrid build, you will ONLY DO HALF DAMAGE with all your abilities. You MUST CHOOOSE ONE. STAMINA OR MAGICKA. You cannot specialize in both, or you'll never be able to kill or heal anything in the veteran ranks.
If you put 50 attribute points in stamina, with a vr16 weapon, your 2h wrecking blow will do 9-10k damage. If you split your points 25 in stamina and 25 into magicka, it will end up doing 5k damage, while consuming a huge amount of stamina relative to your pool. It just won't work. This calculation holds true for all abilities, stamina or magicka. Your damage and your heals will be weak and you will get fed up with the game.
I suggest you ditch stamina and put all your points into magicka. Use 2h as your melee weapon and only use magicka damage abilities on your 2h bar. Puncturing sweep will be your best friend as it does good damage and heals you.
With high magicka, your resto staff healing bar will have very strong heals. Your 2h melee bar will have bery high damage.
DO NOT SPECIALIZE IN BOTH STAMINA AND MAGICKA.Bosmer Stamina NB
Altmer Magicka TEMP
Dunmer DK both stam/mag (depends what I feel like)
Altmer Magicka NB
Breton Magicka Sorc
Redguard Stam Sorc
Max CP0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.
You would need 600 cp minimum to get you the regen and cost reduction Stata back. By purely using armor to get half of this you will be missing out on any sort of spell power, leaving you very weak in comparison.0 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.
You would need 600 cp minimum to get you the regen and cost reduction Stata back. By purely using armor to get half of this you will be missing out on any sort of spell power, leaving you very weak in comparison.
Sigh, another guy that thinks he can prove everything with numbers without having any firsthand experience.
I've got less then 400 CP and do great in heavy, i switch between light and heavy depending on the situation, I even rock a medium set sometimes and still get good results. 5 heavy, 1 medium, 1 light works. Plenty proof of that already on these forums. For as great a templar as you claim to be, you should know that heavy is viable and better then light in certain situations.
2 hander in heavy stats:
P.E.A.C.E.Edited by Akinos on October 25, 2015 8:16PMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
Speely✭✭✭✭One way to look at it is to ask yourself "what do I gain by being a hybrid Stamina/Magicka build?"
Pro: A more versatile resource pool.
Con: Inferior efficiency of said resource pool if you split up your cost reductions, recovery bonuses, etc.
Pro: Freedom to slot a wider variety of skills.
Con: None of that variety offers more utility than just Magicka, which gives Temps pretty much everything.
Pro: Can feel like a melee brawler while still healing decently.
Con: Magicka Temps already feel like melee brutes with Sweeps and can heal far better.
Pro: More gear set combo possibilities.
Con: Said gear will be burdened with more enchantment requirements, further diminishing your potency with either Stamina or Magicka skills.
Pro: Better Stamina for PvP + decent healing could be a good, scrappy mix.
Con: Getting your recovery and Weapon/Spell damage where you need it to outlast and kill enemy players will be tough. Those who optimize one resource (either Stamina or Magicka) will hit harder, heal bigger, and have great sustain, assuming they are built well.
That said, Heavy Armor is completely viable. I prefer 5L, but 5H worked for me as well, and I see it work well for Temps all the time. Also, though I am of the opinion that hybrid builds are sub-optimal, I would look forward to seeing how it works out for you if you choose to go that route. Keep us updated 0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.
You would need 600 cp minimum to get you the regen and cost reduction Stata back. By purely using armor to get half of this you will be missing out on any sort of spell power, leaving you very weak in comparison.
Sigh, another guy that thinks he can prove everything with numbers without having any firsthand experience.
I've got less then 400 CP and do great in heavy, i switch between light and heavy depending on the situation, I even rock a medium set sometimes and still get good results. 5 heavy, 1 medium, 1 light works. Plenty proof of that already on these forums. For as great a templar as you claim to be, you should know that heavy is viable and better then light in certain situations.
2 hander in heavy stats:
P.E.A.C.E.
1v1 equal players etc, a light armor magicka user will always win, the extra 8% reduced damage is nothing in comparison to the rest of the passives, your heals and your attacks will be gimped massively, all the light armor wearer has to do is wear down your resources.
Also forget about cp for a second, what if you had zero, your resources will be terrible in comparison, not to mention missing out on crit bonuses etc, which again lowers your dps and your defenses.
Everyone knows heavy armor still isn't anywhere as good these days except for tanks.0 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.
You would need 600 cp minimum to get you the regen and cost reduction Stata back. By purely using armor to get half of this you will be missing out on any sort of spell power, leaving you very weak in comparison.
Sigh, another guy that thinks he can prove everything with numbers without having any firsthand experience.
I've got less then 400 CP and do great in heavy, i switch between light and heavy depending on the situation, I even rock a medium set sometimes and still get good results. 5 heavy, 1 medium, 1 light works. Plenty proof of that already on these forums. For as great a templar as you claim to be, you should know that heavy is viable and better then light in certain situations.
2 hander in heavy stats:
P.E.A.C.E.
1v1 equal players etc, a light armor magicka user will always win, the extra 8% reduced damage is nothing in comparison to the rest of the passives, your heals and your attacks will be gimped massively, all the light armor wearer has to do is wear down your resources.
Also forget about cp for a second, what if you had zero, your resources will be terrible in comparison, not to mention missing out on crit bonuses etc, which again lowers your dps and your defenses.
Everyone knows heavy armor still isn't anywhere as good these days except for tanks.
That's a laughable load of crap buddy. The armor doesn't make the player. Good players can make the most out of any armor type. I 1v1 and 1vX people while wearing heavy quite often. Infact I won a 1v5 shortly after the screenshot I posted was taken.
Here's a yet another example of a heavy armor templar:
https://youtu.be/m8LMCZVOnKU
Second fight I beat a shield stacking sorc while I'm in heavy. I can post videos and screenshots all day of me wrecking people in heavy. There's a reason why they call me the OG Heavy Armor Templar, been rockin heavy and proving people wrong since day one. Edited by Akinos on October 26, 2015 1:15AMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
zornyan✭✭✭✭✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.
You would need 600 cp minimum to get you the regen and cost reduction Stata back. By purely using armor to get half of this you will be missing out on any sort of spell power, leaving you very weak in comparison.
Sigh, another guy that thinks he can prove everything with numbers without having any firsthand experience.
I've got less then 400 CP and do great in heavy, i switch between light and heavy depending on the situation, I even rock a medium set sometimes and still get good results. 5 heavy, 1 medium, 1 light works. Plenty proof of that already on these forums. For as great a templar as you claim to be, you should know that heavy is viable and better then light in certain situations.
2 hander in heavy stats:
P.E.A.C.E.
1v1 equal players etc, a light armor magicka user will always win, the extra 8% reduced damage is nothing in comparison to the rest of the passives, your heals and your attacks will be gimped massively, all the light armor wearer has to do is wear down your resources.
Also forget about cp for a second, what if you had zero, your resources will be terrible in comparison, not to mention missing out on crit bonuses etc, which again lowers your dps and your defenses.
Everyone knows heavy armor still isn't anywhere as good these days except for tanks.
That's a laughable load of crap buddy. The armor doesn't make the player. Good players can make the most out of any armor type. I 1v1 and 1vX people while wearing heavy quite often. Infact I won a 1v5 shortly after the screenshot I posted was taken.
Here's a yet another example of a heavy armor templar:https://youtu.be/m8LMCZVOnKU
Second fight I beat a shield stacking sorc while I'm in heavy. I can post videos and screenshots all day of me wrecking people in heavy. There's a reason why they call me the OG Heavy Armor Templar, been rockin heavy and proving people wrong since day one.
No need to try and turn this into an arugment?
Obviously you were a better player then the others, of course skill always trunps, but I'm simply saying 2 equally skilled players, the light / medium armor user has a much bigger advantage, there's so much armor penetration in this game that the basic heavy armor mitigation is normally redundant, and I'm sure even you agree the passives are very lack luster in comparison to light/med armor users.0 -
Akinos✭✭✭✭✭
✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.
You would need 600 cp minimum to get you the regen and cost reduction Stata back. By purely using armor to get half of this you will be missing out on any sort of spell power, leaving you very weak in comparison.
Sigh, another guy that thinks he can prove everything with numbers without having any firsthand experience.
I've got less then 400 CP and do great in heavy, i switch between light and heavy depending on the situation, I even rock a medium set sometimes and still get good results. 5 heavy, 1 medium, 1 light works. Plenty proof of that already on these forums. For as great a templar as you claim to be, you should know that heavy is viable and better then light in certain situations.
2 hander in heavy stats:
P.E.A.C.E.
1v1 equal players etc, a light armor magicka user will always win, the extra 8% reduced damage is nothing in comparison to the rest of the passives, your heals and your attacks will be gimped massively, all the light armor wearer has to do is wear down your resources.
Also forget about cp for a second, what if you had zero, your resources will be terrible in comparison, not to mention missing out on crit bonuses etc, which again lowers your dps and your defenses.
Everyone knows heavy armor still isn't anywhere as good these days except for tanks.
That's a laughable load of crap buddy. The armor doesn't make the player. Good players can make the most out of any armor type. I 1v1 and 1vX people while wearing heavy quite often. Infact I won a 1v5 shortly after the screenshot I posted was taken.
Here's a yet another example of a heavy armor templar:https://youtu.be/m8LMCZVOnKU
Second fight I beat a shield stacking sorc while I'm in heavy. I can post videos and screenshots all day of me wrecking people in heavy. There's a reason why they call me the OG Heavy Armor Templar, been rockin heavy and proving people wrong since day one.
No need to try and turn this into an arugment?
Obviously you were a better player then the others, of course skill always trunps, but I'm simply saying 2 equally skilled players, the light / medium armor user has a much bigger advantage, there's so much armor penetration in this game that the basic heavy armor mitigation is normally redundant, and I'm sure even you agree the passives are very lack luster in comparison to light/med armor users.
If anybody is arguing it's you...no offense but how does a console player and somebody that used to wear heavy as a magicka templar go from that to telling seasoned PC players what works and what doesn't?
I've beaten players that would be considered better at the game then me while wearing heavy. There's too many factors and variables that go into PvP for you or anybody else to just outright dismiss a whole type of armor. Like i said before, heavy vs light is completely situational, in my eyes anyways. There are people I simply cannot beat while wearing light, but if I throw on my heavy I can fight them and win. Having an advantage doesn't guarantee success.Edited by Akinos on October 26, 2015 9:26AMPC NA | @AkinosPvP 1vX/Small Scaler, Raid Leader, Youtuber and Twitch.tv Streamer.MAGICKA MELEE IS LIFE!Magplar, MagDK, Magden, Magblade, Magsorc & Magcro PvP/Build videos & moretwitch.tv/akinospvp0 -
Visemere✭✭Hybrids are no where near as effecient as other builds.
Take it like this, as a heavy armor magicka user you give up
20% odd cost reduction
25% odd regen
5k spell penetration
10% spell crit
5k spell resist.
Wearing light you lose
8k armor (about 10% mitigation)
7% hp.
Meaning your heals will be weaker, your resource management will be gimped.
Your damage and regen will be gimped.
All of those downsides can be made up for with CP, the right glyphs and armor sets. And you don't lose spell resist by wearing heavy. Heavy gives way more spell resist and armor then light does.
Heavy works fine as is completely viable. Magicka or hybrid. Even as stamina.
You would need 600 cp minimum to get you the regen and cost reduction Stata back. By purely using armor to get half of this you will be missing out on any sort of spell power, leaving you very weak in comparison.
Sigh, another guy that thinks he can prove everything with numbers without having any firsthand experience.
I've got less then 400 CP and do great in heavy, i switch between light and heavy depending on the situation, I even rock a medium set sometimes and still get good results. 5 heavy, 1 medium, 1 light works. Plenty proof of that already on these forums. For as great a templar as you claim to be, you should know that heavy is viable and better then light in certain situations.
2 hander in heavy stats:
P.E.A.C.E.
1v1 equal players etc, a light armor magicka user will always win, the extra 8% reduced damage is nothing in comparison to the rest of the passives, your heals and your attacks will be gimped massively, all the light armor wearer has to do is wear down your resources.
Also forget about cp for a second, what if you had zero, your resources will be terrible in comparison, not to mention missing out on crit bonuses etc, which again lowers your dps and your defenses.
Everyone knows heavy armor still isn't anywhere as good these days except for tanks.
That's a laughable load of crap buddy. The armor doesn't make the player. Good players can make the most out of any armor type. I 1v1 and 1vX people while wearing heavy quite often. Infact I won a 1v5 shortly after the screenshot I posted was taken.
Here's a yet another example of a heavy armor templar:https://youtu.be/m8LMCZVOnKU
Second fight I beat a shield stacking sorc while I'm in heavy. I can post videos and screenshots all day of me wrecking people in heavy. There's a reason why they call me the OG Heavy Armor Templar, been rockin heavy and proving people wrong since day one.
No need to try and turn this into an arugment?
Obviously you were a better player then the others, of course skill always trunps, but I'm simply saying 2 equally skilled players, the light / medium armor user has a much bigger advantage, there's so much armor penetration in this game that the basic heavy armor mitigation is normally redundant, and I'm sure even you agree the passives are very lack luster in comparison to light/med armor users.
If anybody is arguing it's you...no offense but how does a console player and somebody that used to wear heavy as a magicka templar go from that to telling seasoned PC players what works and what doesn't?
I've beaten players that would be considered better at the game then me while wearing heavy. There's too many factors and variables that go into PvP for you or anybody else to just outright dismiss a whole type of armor. Like i said before, heavy vs light is completely situational, in my eyes anyways. There are people I simply cannot beat while wearing light, but if I throw on my heavy I can fight them and win. Having an advantage doesn't guarantee success.
@Akinos can you share your build? im an argonian templar, wanting to run heavy armor..Visemere - VR16 Argonian Templar - PS4 EU Dagger Fall Covenant0 -
WillhelmBlack✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭I tried in back end of 1.6 and got results with my tank stats 20k/16k/22k. I swapped to medium armour (Way of Air with 4 piece Torugs), got alright regen and decent spell and weapon damage. 2000 and 3000 buffed from roll dodge. Roll dodge got nerfed and Torugs got changed making the build completely and utterly useless.
I did it just for fun but was amazed by some of the combo's you could pull with having poison, magic and elemental dots. Finishing with Jesus beam with a bow equipped was epic.
It required total concentration and was bloody rewarding. Shame ZOS made "play the way you want to play" even harder to reach. It wasn't as effective as my Magicka build currently 36k/25k/17k on stats. That 17k stamina is just for blocking and break free and all that Magicka goes a long way, this set up is superior in 1.7 and 1.6.Edited by WillhelmBlack on October 28, 2015 12:30PMPC EU0 -
Van_0S✭✭✭✭✭I thought about a build this morning, a Templar with 2 handed as main weapon, healing staff as my off. My race would be dark elf for the ambidextrous racial. I like the idea of the build very much, I like getting up close and ripping enemies up, but at the same time I enjoy doing healing. I figured this build would also give me flexibility for different situations. While looking some stuff up, though, I read that hybrid builds aren't good at all and leave you gimped. My big questions are if this build is viable in late-game pvp (I don't care if it isn't the meta), and if it is how should I distribute my points?
If you want a stam as the main then take
1)imperial.(max DPS)
2)redguard. (end min to gain stam)
3)bosmer(as good regen+repentance+serpent mundus, you will never run out of stamina).
For magi,
1)Breton.
2)Altmer.
3)Dunmer.(fire damage, that means killer Radiant Oppression).
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Cryhavoc✭✭✭No matter how I look at it, the Heavy armor passives do not out weigh the Light armor passives for a Magicka build.
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✭No matter how I look at it, the Heavy armor passives do not out weigh the Light armor passives for a Magicka build.
I am willing to be proven wrong.
I gotta agree. Of course a good player can MAKE heavy work. But if you're looking at the Math Light armor is just better in almost every way.0 -
humpalicous✭✭✭I thought about a build this morning, a Templar with 2 handed as main weapon, healing staff as my off. My race would be dark elf for the ambidextrous racial. I like the idea of the build very much, I like getting up close and ripping enemies up, but at the same time I enjoy doing healing. I figured this build would also give me flexibility for different situations. While looking some stuff up, though, I read that hybrid builds aren't good at all and leave you gimped. My big questions are if this build is viable in late-game pvp (I don't care if it isn't the meta), and if it is how should I distribute my points?
As many people probably mentioned already (haven't read all of the comments yet) a two-handed Templar is a beast, just make sure that you focus on either magicka or stamina based abilities, as a 50/50 build will mess up your endgame damage output!
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