Why do you feel that Nightblades need to be nerfed

TheNephilimCrow · October 2015

I have provided a few options and just a yes or no for those who don't have a reason for the nerf.

SHADOW2KK · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Wish people would just L2P and get good, instead of the `wahhhh wahhhhhh I died, you must hack wahhhh wahhh` pathetic mentality.

Then, to máke it worse, cos they died, they come on forums and wahhhhh and whine and gnash their teeth for nerfs cos they cannot adapt.

Sighs, people....

Tryxus · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Oh yeah, forget the Alliance War, let's make Cyrodill a "Nightblade vs the Other Classes"-war

SemiD4rkness · October 2015

Just nerf it

Because if it doesn't all classes will dissapear. Im having a hard time finding Dks already.
Also ofc "it doesn't" need a nerf will win because half the players main a NB on this forum. Doesn't matter though, its gonna get nerfed anyway.

eNumbra · October 2015

I was killed by nightblades and tired of it

I was killed by a NB and it hurt my feelings. I'm the best PvPer around here, we can't have anyone killing me, that wouldn't be fair.

TheNephilimCrow · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

Because if it doesn't all classes will dissapear. Im having a hard time finding Dks already.
Also ofc "it doesn't" need a nerf will win because half the players main a NB on this forum. Doesn't matter though, its gonna get nerfed anyway.

I'm no longer taking your vote into consideration. Please play more than one class for more creditability.

Emma_Overload · October 2015

Just nerf it

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

Yakidafi · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

gimmie lol button, really only bcs they can cloak in ic sewers XD in beginning of game people complained that NBs could cloak past a pve dungeon mob and complete it faster then the other classes XD

Alucardo · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Don't nerf it, but fix DKs and Templars. More so the DKs.. rip

Shunravi · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

On my sorc I can bolt through the sewers and get out of the mobs leash range easily.

Aedaryl · October 2015

Just nerf it

Just nerf it !

The problem with the NB is not the NB himself, but the mechanics that make NB powerfull, : In one hand, Harness Magicka for magicka NBs, it's make NB really hard to kill with magicka character, and it's the same for NB magicka VS magicka in general.

In the other hand, for the stamina NB, it's a Champion Point problem : you can reduce all damage with cp exept the PHYSICAL damage, so, the stamina increase his damage, but you can't do anything to stop it...

The only problem for the NB is for me the cloak, even stamina NBs can spam it to infinity. Cloak is the best escape in the game and it's need a little nerf.

TheNephilimCrow · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

I don't know why "I don't see any other classes" is starting to trend. Whenever I am in IC or even Cyro, I see DKs and Sorc. The only one I could agree on is Templar. I don't see hardly any Templars, really.

I actually hardly see any Nightblades and please, spare me the puns... I run detect pots and counters for it and never see any. Many DK with Reflect and Sorc with mines.

Alucardo · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah...

Sorcs aren't OP, but they are in a damn good place, just like Nightblades. We need to look at buffing the classes left behind, not nerfing one so Sorc is on top, because in turn, that will get nerfed too eventually.
And that, my dear Simba, is the great circle of nerf.

Tryxus · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Alucardo wrote: »

Don't nerf it, but fix DKs and Templars. More so the DKs.. rip

Quote FTW

NB feels balanced atm, the other classes now need to be boosted so they can achieve that balance as well

TheNephilimCrow · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Tryxus wrote: »

Alucardo wrote: »

Don't nerf it, but fix DKs and Templars. More so the DKs.. rip

Quote FTW

NB feels balanced atm, the other classes now need to be boosted so they can achieve that balance as well

I can get behind this.

Tholian1 · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Aedaryl wrote: »

Just nerf it !

The problem with the NB is not the NB himself, but the mechanics that make NB powerfull, : In one hand, Harness Magicka for magicka NBs, it's make NB really hard to kill with magicka character, and it's the same for NB magicka VS magicka in general.

In the other hand, for the stamina NB, it's a Champion Point problem : you can reduce all damage with cp exept the PHYSICAL damage, so, the stamina increase his damage, but you can't do anything to stop it...

The only problem for the NB is for me the cloak, even stamina NBs can spam it to infinity. Cloak is the best escape in the game and it's need a little nerf.

As a stamina NB, I would like to know how to spam cloak to infinity. If a NB has enough magicka to do that, then they are not using a Stamina build. I really wish some of these "stamina" NBs that are able to spam cloak infinitely, would share their secret.

What you are most likely experiencing is them using cloak and breaking line of sight to enter stealth.

Emma_Overload · October 2015

Just nerf it

Shunravi wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

On my sorc I can bolt through the sewers and get out of the mobs leash range easily.

Sure, right up until you get CC'd by that sneaky ganker who was waiting for you, and then all the harmless mobs you left in your wake start to catch up with you. Now you have to deal with the ganker AND a dozen angry daedra and maybe a "sweeper" boss, too!

Shunravi · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

On my sorc I can bolt through the sewers and get out of the mobs leash range easily.

Sure, right up until you get CC'd by that sneaky ganker who was waiting for you, and then all the harmless mobs you left in your wake start to catch up with you. Now you have to deal with the ganker AND a dozen angry daedra and maybe a "sweeper" boss, too!

im just sayin. works for me.

SemiD4rkness · October 2015

Just nerf it

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

On my sorc I can bolt through the sewers and get out of the mobs leash range easily.

Sure, right up until you get CC'd by that sneaky ganker who was waiting for you, and then all the harmless mobs you left in your wake start to catch up with you. Now you have to deal with the ganker AND a dozen angry daedra and maybe a "sweeper" boss, too!

But the Sorc can slot carltrops, but but .....

Thats what a nightblade would say.

Tryxus · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

On my sorc I can bolt through the sewers and get out of the mobs leash range easily.

Sure, right up until you get CC'd by that sneaky ganker who was waiting for you, and then all the harmless mobs you left in your wake start to catch up with you. Now you have to deal with the ganker AND a dozen angry daedra and maybe a "sweeper" boss, too!

Not jsut a NB thing

Seen plenty of Sorcs Bolting around, pulling a boss to an enemy group of farmers and then moving in for the kill

TheNephilimCrow · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

But the Sorc can slot carltrops, but but .....
Thats what a nightblade would say.

I'm really starting believe you are a troll.

SleepyTroll · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Other classes need buffs or reverted nerfs. Ambush and killers blade and surprise atack should go back to magicka though. Everyone is only playing NB becuase they are the best for stamina builds who don't want to spam wrecking blow. Not becuase of cloak. Stamina OP right now not NB.

SHADOW2KK · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Tryxus wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

Shunravi wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

On my sorc I can bolt through the sewers and get out of the mobs leash range easily.

Sure, right up until you get CC'd by that sneaky ganker who was waiting for you, and then all the harmless mobs you left in your wake start to catch up with you. Now you have to deal with the ganker AND a dozen angry daedra and maybe a "sweeper" boss, too!

Not jsut a NB thing

Seen plenty of Sorcs Bolting around, pulling a boss to an enemy group of farmers and then moving in for the kill

This

Aedaryl · October 2015

Just nerf it

Tholian1 wrote: »

Aedaryl wrote: »

Just nerf it !

The problem with the NB is not the NB himself, but the mechanics that make NB powerfull, : In one hand, Harness Magicka for magicka NBs, it's make NB really hard to kill with magicka character, and it's the same for NB magicka VS magicka in general.

In the other hand, for the stamina NB, it's a Champion Point problem : you can reduce all damage with cp exept the PHYSICAL damage, so, the stamina increase his damage, but you can't do anything to stop it...

The only problem for the NB is for me the cloak, even stamina NBs can spam it to infinity. Cloak is the best escape in the game and it's need a little nerf.

As a stamina NB, I would like to know how to spam cloak to infinity. If a NB has enough magicka to do that, then they are not using a Stamina build. I really wish some of these "stamina" NBs that are able to spam cloak infinitely, would share their secret.

What you are most likely experiencing is them using cloak and breaking line of sight to enter stealth.

A NB hwo is not able to cloak when he want is a bad NB, sorry

SemiD4rkness · October 2015

Just nerf it

TheNephilimCrow wrote: »

SemiD4rkness wrote: »

But the Sorc can slot carltrops, but but .....
Thats what a nightblade would say.

I'm really starting believe you are a troll.

So either I think NBs are balanced or Iam a troll. Good logic.
I know it's hard, I got my op class nerfed to hell back when i played Dofus and i cried a lot too.

Emma_Overload · October 2015

Just nerf it

TheNephilimCrow wrote: »

Emma_Eunjung wrote: »

The difficulty in countering it is NOT the only problem with Cloak. Let me explain...

9 times out of 10, when I get ganked in the IC sewers, the culprit is a Nightblade. Sometimes the NB uses Cloak frequently during the fight, but not always. The REAL problem, in my opinion, is the fact that the enemy Nightblade is traipsing around my faction's section of the sewers in the first place!

I keep hearing about how Sorcs are OP, too, blah blah blah... so how come I almost never see them? For the same reason I rarely see enemy DKs or Templars: because moving through the sewers past HUNDREDS of mobs is a huge pain in the butt if you are not a Nightblade. Nightblades use Cloak outside of combat to quickly position themselves in the best spots to grief hapless PvE grinders.

I think it's crap that NBs have escaped all the nerfs that have gutted other classes, and I think it's crap that they can use Cloak to dominate the IC in ways that no other class can. If @ZOS doesn't want to nerf Nightblades, at least they can look at the other classes and see about giving us some buffs or new skills to make up for this power deficit.

I don't know why "I don't see any other classes" is starting to trend. Whenever I am in IC or even Cyro, I see DKs and Sorc. The only one I could agree on is Templar. I don't see hardly any Templars, really.

I actually hardly see any Nightblades and please, spare me the puns... I run detect pots and counters for it and never see any. Many DK with Reflect and Sorc with mines.

I think different players are going to run into different enemies based on where and how they spend their time. I'm not looking for PvP, so I stay out of Cyrodiil and only go into the Districts to cash my trophies at the vaults. Grinders like me are going to be found in the sections of our own faction's sewers that have the highest density of easy to kill mobs. In my case, that's Vile Drainage in the DC sewer, but I'm sure AD and EP have similar areas.

The kind of guys who like to gank players like me KNOW where we are and what we are doing. There is almost a common profile of this ganker: a Nightblade with PvP rank in the 20's or higher. I'm not kidding when I say 9 out of 10 are NBs! Most of the rest are Sorcs and a few Templars. I don't know if I've EVER been ganked by a DK in Vile Drainage. Templars and DKs seem to prefer traveling in big groups. Maybe it's a different story outside the sewers.... I wouldn't know!

Tryxus · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Kinda funny: the first 3 threads in this forum are all about the NB

We're popular baby

SHADOW2KK · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Tryxus wrote: »

Kinda funny: the first 3 threads in this forum are all about the NB

We're popular baby

They cannot adapt to us, muhuhahahhaha.

Alucardo · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Tryxus wrote: »

Kinda funny: the first 3 threads in this forum are all about the NB

We're popular baby

True that.

Everyone should just roll a Nightblade. Can't get much more balance than that

SemiD4rkness · October 2015

Just nerf it

My nightblade is balanced, the other 3 classes are the problem because they're underpowered.
Solution? Buff 3 classes instead of nerfing one. LOL.
And yes you're popular because you're op.

SHADOW2KK · October 2015

It doesn't need a nerf

Alucardo wrote: »

Tryxus wrote: »

Kinda funny: the first 3 threads in this forum are all about the NB

We're popular baby

True that.

Everyone should just roll a Nightblade. Can't get much more balance than that

Lol, and regardless some people will still whine, as they do not understand that counters exist.

Never underestimate the power of the human race for whining about nigh on everything just cos they cannot adapt:P

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