2015, close to 2016 and we still are playing a game that has no slight reality in battle

MattyMatty · October 2015

XB1

If I play a game Like destiny then when I shoot an enemy\player - if I miss I miss, if i aimed correct then my shot lands a hit
If I play ...... Jeez... Skyrim for want of a better example then I score a hit with my weapon because it was within range and aimed correct to score such said hit.
I have just started noticing that ZOS's effort with this supposed next gen step means I can stand back a whole extra sword length pretty much and swing wildly at thin air between me and the enemy and it is still scoring hits!!!???
I am swinging into air and still damaging the enemy!!!!?????

I have to come the conclusion that this and coupled with the easy 3rd person view is nothing more than a game for kiddies and wimps who just want things easy and laid out for them to easily be on scoreboards in PvP, and for ZOS to make a quick buck

This is not the ES that I grew up with
I thought at first as a new player this was good, but more and more I am noticing the cruddy aspects like this and realising the obvious
I want to play a third person RPG - well I have the Witcher3 which has better feel to the game and battle feels like something to challenge with less click click to hack n slash cast magic and rinse and repeat
I have Destiny which is although not a true MMO is still a community game and if I fire a bullet which tickles the hairs on someone else's ear it doesn't count for a hit
And far as MMO goes then there is always Battlefront coming out

Don't get me wrong before you all burn me I have played this and may revisit, but as it stands ZOS took something and created a shell of Skyrim\Morrowind online and have yet to really make a good thing of it because it is the little things like this area of weapon contact as an example, that so far are seriously letting it down

Darkonflare15 · October 2015

MattyMatty wrote: »

XB1

If I play a game Like destiny then when I shoot an enemy\player - if I miss I miss, if i aimed correct then my shot lands a hit
If I play ...... Jeez... Skyrim for want of a better example then I score a hit with my weapon because it was within range and aimed correct to score such said hit.
I have just started noticing that ZOS's effort with this supposed next gen step means I can stand back a whole extra sword length pretty much and swing wildly at thin air between me and the enemy and it is still scoring hits!!!???
I am swinging into air and still damaging the enemy!!!!?????

I have to come the conclusion that this and coupled with the easy 3rd person view is nothing more than a game for kiddies and wimps who just want things easy and laid out for them to easily be on scoreboards in PvP, and for ZOS to make a quick buck

This is not the ES that I grew up with
I thought at first as a new player this was good, but more and more I am noticing the cruddy aspects like this and realising the obvious
I want to play a third person RPG - well I have the Witcher3 which has better feel to the game and battle feels like something to challenge with less click click to hack n slash cast magic and rinse and repeat
I have Destiny which is although not a true MMO is still a community game and if I fire a bullet which tickles the hairs on someone else's ear it doesn't count for a hit
And far as MMO goes then there is always Battlefront coming out

Don't get me wrong before you all burn me I have played this and may revisit, but as it stands ZOS took something and created a shell of Skyrim\Morrowind online and have yet to really make a good thing of it because it is the little things like this area of weapon contact as an example, that so far are seriously letting it down

Umm.. You know back in morrowind when you swing a sword you always had a chance to miss the enemy even though he was right in front of you. So you waste plenty of attacks by hitting though your enemy.Tbh if your mad about how easy it to hit confirmed in this game than this not the game for you. Combat in an elder scrolls always been bland and boring thanks to stiff animations.Trust me hit confirmed is not going to make the game feel more challenging. All of the challenging content is towards of the game anyway and if you cannot get into a game it is best to move on to another game.

Flattedfifth · October 2015

-_-

Molag_Crow · October 2015

Gern_Verkheart · October 2015

Asking for "reality in battle" for a video game is absolutely absurd. All enemies in every MMO like ESO, have hit boxes. Deal with it.

nimander99 · October 2015

Obligatory this aint Skyrim Online response.

Korah_Eaglecry · October 2015

Man, you must of woke up on the wrong side of the bed to decide you were going to come on here and spend 20+ minutes writing that.

Rosveen · October 2015

Lag issues. This is all. If ESO had precise aiming, you'd be hitting air all the time.

MattyMatty · October 2015

You missed the point

I am all okay and for the chance to score a hit - if it was a possibility in the first place. attacking in mid air is not a chance to hit situation and in this day and age of games it is pretty pitiful
And yes previously like in Morrowind that existed and I am still in favour of the chance to do damage - but I am on about how there is a ridiculous area of "can do damage without any real contact"
in 3rd person especially it just looks stupid and very 10 years ago at least - 1 person it is forgivable but still cmon in this day and age of games this is a ridiculous thing to kill something in a game without actually hitting it!!!

Look at all the other games that are out and coming out and we are nearing 2016 - this game for the 'Now' is a joke and the players that are only going to keep it going are the vets and that is not a fanbase enough for it right now to last very long and I will quite gladly log back in in a few years time when the game is an amazing success and say I was wrong. But right now I do believe that it is going to die a death and will not be around like WoW

EOS is kinda reminiscent of how SW Galaxies happened. Maybe not quite as bad but yeah!!

So to you all enjoy your gaming on ESO where actually you can hit anything out of reach, movement feels like the 90's and lacks actual any sort of immersion or excitement such as Destiny, Dragon Age Inquisitions, Battlefront from what I have seen, Shadow of Mordor....... and even firing up the old 360 for humph \Skyrim which is still more engaging I have to admit

Like I say I will look this up in a couple of years time and I bet........ RIP

Callous2208 · October 2015

Why have you created so many theads in the past two days? We get it, you're new. You're new to mmo's evidently as well and have discovered they're not your thing. Congratulations. Stick with what you like, those games still exist and you can go back to them at any time. No one missed your point. You never had one to begin with. I know everyone has a right to their opinion but my god. The nerve of people to just come mock up these 10 page whine threads over issues that could all be categorized in a few statements.

1.I don't like this game, it's not for me.
2. I don't like mmo's, they are not for me.

Then conclude by climbing on your self righteous high horse and insulting everyone who does enjoy the game or genre. Move along fool.

Gidorick · October 2015

I think it has to do with the way the client speaks with the server. There will always be slight variations between what you are seeing and what the server is calculating. Maybe ZOS decided to make a design decision to increase the hitbox radius to account for this sort of communication discrepancy.

If this frustrates you, I suggest you never use a bow. Those arrows curve and hit their target like a sidewinder.

sadownik · October 2015

Many people claim that ESO has action combat. Its not true. Its still good old mmo standard and thats why you see the things you - OP- described.

MattyMatty · October 2015

I dont suffer from lag issues I am on super fast connection and console so not a typical - likes to boast about ibeing a PC user but needs to upgrade all the time and suffers FPS because mummy n daddy did not buy them the most current overly priced GFX card

Sorry everyone but you all know I speak the truth but try playing some of the other games out there - in particular what I have mentioned and then go back to this stinker and you will see what I mean

[Holding nose, doing a thumbs down and blowing a raspberry after a very garlic based dish coz it stinks as bad as my breath right now]
...... yet I can brush my teeth and swill with some mouthwash and be all fresh - ZOS can't

Callous2208 · October 2015

MattyMatty wrote: »

I dont suffer from lag issues I am on super fast connection and console so not a typical - likes to boast about ibeing a PC user but needs to upgrade all the time and suffers FPS because mummy n daddy did not buy them the most current overly priced GFX card

Sorry everyone but you all know I speak the truth but try playing some of the other games out there - in particular what I have mentioned and then go back to this stinker and you will see what I mean

[Holding nose, doing a thumbs down and blowing a raspberry after a very garlic based dish coz it stinks as bad as my breath right now]
...... yet I can brush my teeth and swill with some mouthwash and be all fresh - ZOS can't

Ok, I retract my previous statement. Obvious troll is obvious. No one else engage.

temjiu · October 2015

While I concur that the hitboxes aren't necessarily "real" or comparative to FPS games....this isn't an FPS game. that and it doesn't do your argument well to use a singular mechanical issue in the game as a platform for your "game is spiraling it's way to death" speech. save it for the tinfoil hats. Not everyone is as critical as you are when it comes to hitboxes. many people could care less, as they have other priorities in their gaming.

So By all means, point out some areas that the game could improve. Give constructive ideas to fix. But please dont be one of those peeps who think that a single aspect of a game is going to kill it, and don't insult those who actually enjoy the game in spite of it's issues...it makes you come across as immature at best.

And Destiny has it's own host of problems...if it was an MMO with a sub plan im pretty sure it would have almost gone belly up just like ESO almost wen't belly up...Destiny's saving grace was that it was a buy and play game. between the complete lack of different and interesting areas, a uninspiring story line, and a RNG loot system that made even the most patient tear out their hair in frustration...we'll lets keep it at "Destiny is not the best game to compare to anything." But...just like ESO, it's getting better.

Waffennacht · October 2015

Destiny... I dislike destiny and leave it at that

Shadows of Mordor... ONE MORE ASSASSINS CREED (After about 6 assassin's creeds i can't take any more)

All dragon age games are broken bud Go ahead and be a Sorc, be the one with the shield bubble + energy sword, at the highest difficulty with no companions, you can beat all content without taking damage. In the first da, just be the type that's 50% in the fade and boom, you have 100% dodge.

Witcher, probably the best game of your list.

Battlefront, well if its an MMo that's cool, but all battlefront games before were more closely related to COD.

For xbox, eso and Neverwinter are the only two games in the mmo rpg area out. Neverwinter is just like other mmos. Eso has way more combat involvement.

Who knows what the future will bring?

ssewallb14_ESO · October 2015

That's not what an MMO is. You're probably looking for something like Mount & blade or Dark Souls.

tordr86b16_ESO · October 2015

Oh look another one of these ridiculous threads.

MattyMatty · October 2015

Okay I may have gone a OTT - I have had a few beers earlier with a brother and I do play 1st person and I tried once again the 3rd person and just felt let down by how i was using flurry a whole space away and killing stuff even though it was fresh air between me and the enemy.

On a positive note as I want to redeem myself, the character development & crafting aspect is years ahead of its time

I just get on my soapbox at times even over small things and can be a bit controversial or stroppy!!

Uneed2Stop · October 2015

I for one love this game and think its a great mmo with awesome social aspects. And as far as pvp goes this is as realistic as ive seen it. 100 freakin people on screen battling it out. Sure there's lag but 100+ players on screen you better boliiieve it

zornyan · October 2015

You really used DESTINY as a freaking example? The game that has so much aim assist, you can actually point a gum next to someone's head and the bullet tracks to their head? A game where a shotgun has the same range as an assault rifle, a game where a hand gun has more range than a scout rifle.

Jeez at least use a half decent game as an example...

BlackEar · October 2015

wafcatb14_ESO · October 2015

I`m only here because Warhammer shut down, and Land of Britain and Camelot Unchained are not out yet.

Bhakura · October 2015

Yea man, that unrealistic stuff is plain idiotic, i mean seriously you got fireballs and lightning bolts flying left and right. Goblins hopping around, ogres and other stupid stuff. Heck, even zombies and walking skeletons ... how the hell dos keletons walk anyhow if they just bone !!!!! how can that be, they aint got muscle !!!!
So unrealistic ... especially that sword swinging stuff you talked about ... phew.

OGLezard · October 2015

MattyMatty wrote: »

XB1

If I play a game Like destiny then when I shoot an enemy\player - if I miss I miss, if i aimed correct then my shot lands a hit
If I play ...... Jeez... Skyrim for want of a better example then I score a hit with my weapon because it was within range and aimed correct to score such said hit.
I have just started noticing that ZOS's effort with this supposed next gen step means I can stand back a whole extra sword length pretty much and swing wildly at thin air between me and the enemy and it is still scoring hits!!!???
I am swinging into air and still damaging the enemy!!!!?????

I have to come the conclusion that this and coupled with the easy 3rd person view is nothing more than a game for kiddies and wimps who just want things easy and laid out for them to easily be on scoreboards in PvP, and for ZOS to make a quick buck

This is not the ES that I grew up with
I thought at first as a new player this was good, but more and more I am noticing the cruddy aspects like this and realising the obvious
I want to play a third person RPG - well I have the Witcher3 which has better feel to the game and battle feels like something to challenge with less click click to hack n slash cast magic and rinse and repeat
I have Destiny which is although not a true MMO is still a community game and if I fire a bullet which tickles the hairs on someone else's ear it doesn't count for a hit
And far as MMO goes then there is always Battlefront coming out

Don't get me wrong before you all burn me I have played this and may revisit, but as it stands ZOS took something and created a shell of Skyrim\Morrowind online and have yet to really make a good thing of it because it is the little things like this area of weapon contact as an example, that so far are seriously letting it down

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA battlefront a MMO HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA maybe back in the day the originals were since they had more than 8 people on each team..... Resistance 1 will ALWAYS be the best FPS online. 250+ people in a battle per match...... now THAT is a mmo... the new battlefront, no thats not a MASSIVE multiplayer online. It is just a MO.

I would also like to point out, Destiny is a steaming pile of crap that they have struggled to try to keep above water. They even finally came out and admitted that they took out A LOT of the game just before release..... that game was riddled with horrible HORRIBLE gameplay and balance sweeps from the get go. I find ESO boring lately (been playing since beta wave 1) but no matter how boring ESO gets, I can NEVER bring myself back to try to play crapiny (destiny) ever again.

icontested · October 2015

I don't like this post

Brrrofski · October 2015

I'm an elder scrolls fan.

I'm new to MMOs.

I love the game.

I realised early on that it isn't an elder scrolls game.

It's an mmo that uses ES lore.

Simple as.

MattyMatty · October 2015

Do I get a badge

Xendyn · October 2015

Sorry. there's no "I'm drunk posting and making a fool of myself" badge.

You have, however, managed to make sure your future posts will be taken much less seriously.

Recremen · October 2015

Physics in Tamriel are a little different, especially in different eras. Sometimes you can try really hard to leap up on top of a building and succeed, other times you have about as much clearance as a gently bounced potato. Same goes with weapons. Sometimes you can't hit the broad side of an Ogrim, other times you're pretty much guaranteed a hit, still others you can stand back 12 feet and slap it with a dagger. That's just how it do.

MattyMatty · October 2015

I think I have in the space of several hours ruined my forum standing!!