ADarklore wrote: »

Returning to playing a Magicka Sorc after a few months away playing a Stamina Sorc, and just wondering- with the recent changes to Mundus- is there any advantage to going with Thief for Spell Crit versus Apprentice for Spell Damage?

For PvE DPS, everyone I know (not only Sorcs) now use the thief. Apprentice got nerfed too heavy to be of use now if you're asking me. Used to be great, now not so much.

For pvp I would still prefer raw damage over crit. I tested the thief one day, and found that I am loosing a lot of damage.
I myself always use the Mage due to Roleplay reasons mainly.

Thanks @Dracane and forgot to mention that I was seeking answers for PvE DPS. I want a Magicka build that does not require Magelight for Criticals, as I plan to utilize Power Surge for damage buff along with solo healing, but don't have enough slots since I also use Clannfear pet on a primary loadout.

Dracane wrote: »

Then you must use spell crit potions. 10% spell crit from magelight or this potion is too much to ignore it in my opinion.
Why would you use the clannfear on a dps build ? At least use the twilight, even though you're better off with 2 damage abilities instead of this pet.

I use Clannfear to draw aggro so I can sit out of the fray and range everything to death. Also, I never said "group PvE", I ONLY solo PvE. I've found the Clannfear to be extremely good at keep enemies off of me, and the Twilight I have found to be worthless IMO, as she tends to stay with me at range- which doesn't help take heat off of me.

In previous Sorc builds, I've run both Magelight and Clannfear while leveling, but eventually dropped Magelight to add Power Surge and Hardened Ward and I never noticed any difference in combat without Magelight.

Dracane wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Thanks @Dracane and forgot to mention that I was seeking answers for PvE DPS. I want a Magicka build that does not require Magelight for Criticals, as I plan to utilize Power Surge for damage buff along with solo healing, but don't have enough slots since I also use Clannfear pet on a primary loadout.

Then you must use spell crit potions. 10% spell crit from magelight or this potion is too much to ignore it in my opinion.
Why would you use the clannfear on a dps build ? At least use the twilight, even though you're better off with 2 damage abilities instead of this pet.

Ezareth wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I myself always use the Mage due to Roleplay reasons mainly.

I'm just curious about this statement. Or is it something I'd be better off not knowing?
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@Ezareth I was born on April 11th.
When I was creating my roleplay character, I wanted her to be born in the month, where the Mage sign reigns. As I wanted her to be a gifted mage.
I found out, that the Mage reigns in the month called 'Rainhand' Rainhand is the Tamrielic month for April So I just decided, that my character was born on Rainhand 11th.

I choose the mage sign, because it's my character's birth sign and I love Magicka, because Magicka=Magnus and Magnus=A great god and he represents the holy light of Aetherius

Man, that's pretty deep haha.

Dracane wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Then you must use spell crit potions. 10% spell crit from magelight or this potion is too much to ignore it in my opinion.
Why would you use the clannfear on a dps build ? At least use the twilight, even though you're better off with 2 damage abilities instead of this pet.

I use Clannfear to draw aggro so I can sit out of the fray and range everything to death. Also, I never said "group PvE", I ONLY solo PvE. I've found the Clannfear to be extremely good at keep enemies off of me, and the Twilight I have found to be worthless IMO, as she tends to stay with me at range- which doesn't help take heat off of me.

In previous Sorc builds, I've run both Magelight and Clannfear while leveling, but eventually dropped Magelight to add Power Surge and Hardened Ward and I never noticed any difference in combat without Magelight.

Excuse me.

Then just use whatever you want For solo pve, for example soloing craglorn dungeons, survival and sustain is more important. You don't need to max out your damage there. For professional DPS, Magelight or at least a spell crit potion is essential. But not for your purpose.

I don't use spell crit pots or magelight for PvE, but then again maybe I'm doing it wrong there.

You wanna solo dungeons with a sorc?

Well then! I solo CoA with my sorc build. (Well it is my PvE solo build)

I roll with a Crit DPS for PvP (atm 53% crit, can easily boost that way higher, just wanna level up first)

The solo build is:

Bar 1:
Summon greater atronach
Crystal Frag
Hardened Ward
Unstable Clannfear
Restoring Twilight
Dark Conversion

Bar 2:
Overload
Annulment/ any other ward really
Shattering Prison
Liquid Lightning
Twilight
Clannfear

Overload Bar:
A ward
Velacious curse
Boundless Presence
Twilight
Clannfear

5 heavy 2 light, divines and enchantment booster one with mage mundus, all max magicka glyphs, seducer x5 and Magnus x4 Sword and board on both bars. Attributes are practically split between health and magicka

Dark Conversion is an absolutely fantastic Tank move. Its cost is regened thru stamina so you'll never feel its cast. It restores more than Hardened Wards cost therefore you can Dark Conversion weaved with Ward to gain magicka, heal, and take no damage from npcs (literally can stand there with 10+ enemies and just regen everything)

The pets will distract and regen and heal. Shattering prison and Liquid Lightning clean up mobs so well, dealing insane damage while deminishing risks to yourself.

Overload and Atronach, overload is more for a single target finisher, atronach can save you by knocking down a whole mob and distracting enemies.

You kinda have to have a ward on each bar, when taking 10 plus hits every sec you can't even have one moment without one up.

I really can't get the same results as a solo dps build, i have a much easier time soloing in tank form.

If you're having problems with survivability in PvE then you should stack Harness magica and hardened ward. Use AoE's and ditch the pet. My v12 toon, a Breton Sorc, can solo craglorn dungeons with no problems. I'd even throw in healing ward for that 40k ward.. lol

Ezareth wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Thanks @Dracane and forgot to mention that I was seeking answers for PvE DPS. I want a Magicka build that does not require Magelight for Criticals, as I plan to utilize Power Surge for damage buff along with solo healing, but don't have enough slots since I also use Clannfear pet on a primary loadout.

Then you must use spell crit potions. 10% spell crit from magelight or this potion is too much to ignore it in my opinion.
Why would you use the clannfear on a dps build ? At least use the twilight, even though you're better off with 2 damage abilities instead of this pet.

Ezareth wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

I myself always use the Mage due to Roleplay reasons mainly.

I'm just curious about this statement. Or is it something I'd be better off not knowing?
.

@Ezareth I was born on April 11th.
When I was creating my roleplay character, I wanted her to be born in the month, where the Mage sign reigns. As I wanted her to be a gifted mage.
I found out, that the Mage reigns in the month called 'Rainhand' Rainhand is the Tamrielic month for April So I just decided, that my character was born on Rainhand 11th.

I choose the mage sign, because it's my character's birth sign and I love Magicka, because Magicka=Magnus and Magnus=A great god and he represents the holy light of Aetherius

Man, that's pretty deep haha.

Dracane wrote: »

ADarklore wrote: »

Dracane wrote: »

Then you must use spell crit potions. 10% spell crit from magelight or this potion is too much to ignore it in my opinion.
Why would you use the clannfear on a dps build ? At least use the twilight, even though you're better off with 2 damage abilities instead of this pet.

I use Clannfear to draw aggro so I can sit out of the fray and range everything to death. Also, I never said "group PvE", I ONLY solo PvE. I've found the Clannfear to be extremely good at keep enemies off of me, and the Twilight I have found to be worthless IMO, as she tends to stay with me at range- which doesn't help take heat off of me.

In previous Sorc builds, I've run both Magelight and Clannfear while leveling, but eventually dropped Magelight to add Power Surge and Hardened Ward and I never noticed any difference in combat without Magelight.

Excuse me.

Then just use whatever you want For solo pve, for example soloing craglorn dungeons, survival and sustain is more important. You don't need to max out your damage there. For professional DPS, Magelight or at least a spell crit potion is essential. But not for your purpose.

I don't use spell crit pots or magelight for PvE, but then again maybe I'm doing it wrong there.

10% crit is significant. I don't think, you should ignore this for pve dps. And Magelight also offers 7% Magicka.