Sewers are already dead?

Uberkull · October 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

been looking to do pvp to get caltrops and such

You earn AP and level the Alliance War skill lines while in IC? Never seen either move while in IC all day. I was under the impression the the Alliance War skill line only levels fighting in Cyrodiil. And AP surely isn't earned in IC...is it? Never seen it move.

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I can tell you honest reason why I am not in the sewers / city:

- It takes time to get there, and if the map are owned by another alliance, its horse simulator.

- The loading screens -.- . It comes to a point where Im just not patient anymore. One month in the sewer, and now I had enough of it. I had to travel to other alliance sewer to get a good fight, but that requires 2 loading screens. One up to the city and one down again in sewer.

- Nightblades are the last reason why I dont enter. I am even tired of explaining why, it have nothing to do with the cloak itself, but.. Idk, just read the 3k threads out there about them. And there was even a vote once about what class you played in pvp, and nightblades won by far. I have tried with detection pots and caltrops, thats all I can do, still their mobility are so huge, both escape and offence, and their easy access to buffs and debuffs that are super importent in the sewer.

I have 225k tv stones banked for now, and feel I am done with the farming, in case new items come I am prepared. But I have better things to do right now compared to endless loading screen and then immediately stomp on a nightblade.

Who are you trying to tell that? You are the filthiest ganker i ever seen.

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

Just 1 enemy caught in the DC sewers (bloodfiend zone) brings from 500 to 4k stones.

Vyle_Byte · October 2015

What do you expect from something that was supposed to be a PVP update that doesn't even have any friggin PVP objectives? They didn't think about the longevity of it. Just get it out, right? Make that money.

It had the potential to be something great. Instead its a PVE zone and the only real PVP'ing that happens is when the enemy decides they want to torture the poor pve'ers at the door of their base lol! Pretty much it.

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

Vyle_Byte wrote: »

Wtorture the poor pve'ers at the door of their base lol! Pretty much it.

makes much fun!

Uberkull · October 2015

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

Just 1 enemy caught in the DC sewers (bloodfiend zone) brings from 500 to 4k stones.

Oh, you're the noob that camps the alliance entrances to the sewers? Bravo.

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

uberkull wrote: »

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

Just 1 enemy caught in the DC sewers (bloodfiend zone) brings from 500 to 4k stones.

Oh, you're the noob that camps the alliance entrances to the sewers? Bravo.

Did i just spot a flaming anger?

Uberkull · October 2015

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

Just 1 enemy caught in the DC sewers (bloodfiend zone) brings from 500 to 4k stones.

Oh, you're the noob that camps the alliance entrances to the sewers? Bravo.

Did i just spot a flaming anger?

Is the a new title for our characters? That would be cool.

But in all honesty, taking advantage of the poor implementation of the exits from Alliance bases is lame. Stealth Insta mark and stunlock a player once they nteract with the door is weaksauce.

Grow a pair and do the 'sit chair' emote right in front of the door, see how you do then.

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

uberkull wrote: »

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

Just 1 enemy caught in the DC sewers (bloodfiend zone) brings from 500 to 4k stones.

Oh, you're the noob that camps the alliance entrances to the sewers? Bravo.

Did i just spot a flaming anger?

Is the a new title for our characters? That would be cool.

But in all honesty, taking advantage of the poor implementation of the exits from Alliance bases is lame. Stealth Insta mark and stunlock a player once they nteract with the door is weaksauce.

Grow a pair and do the 'sit chair' emote right in front of the door, see how you do then.

It quite simplier, at the bases are more targets. Running in mob areas and hope for one player you will find in 1 hour is not really fun.

Uberkull · October 2015

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

Just 1 enemy caught in the DC sewers (bloodfiend zone) brings from 500 to 4k stones.

Oh, you're the noob that camps the alliance entrances to the sewers? Bravo.

Did i just spot a flaming anger?

Is the a new title for our characters? That would be cool.

But in all honesty, taking advantage of the poor implementation of the exits from Alliance bases is lame. Stealth Insta mark and stunlock a player once they nteract with the door is weaksauce.

Grow a pair and do the 'sit chair' emote right in front of the door, see how you do then.

It quite simplier, at the bases are more targets. Running in mob areas and hope for one player you will find in 1 hour is not really fun.

So whats' your class and build? Cause the first time I hear that there's a ganker outside my alliance door, I'm bringing 20 players out that door and sending you back to your base with 80% less stones.

So how are you surviving?

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

uberkull wrote: »

So whats' your class and build? Cause the first time I hear that there's a ganker outside my alliance door, I'm bringing 20 players out that door and sending you back to your base with 80% less stones.

So how are you surviving?

Which campaign you play? Sometimes when i gank 1 player, 3 or 4 come out. Sometimes i kill them, sometimes not. 20 never came out. Stamina DK.

And sure stones mean nothing. I came with 0 and ill cpme back with 0 cause ill not go away until someone kills me. I already have all the gear i need so gold and stones do no more matter.

Malmai · October 2015

Yes Dead

Uberkull · October 2015

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

So whats' your class and build? Cause the first time I hear that there's a ganker outside my alliance door, I'm bringing 20 players out that door and sending you back to your base with 80% less stones.

So how are you surviving?

Which campaign you play? Sometimes when i gank 1 player, 3 or 4 come out. Sometimes i kill them, sometimes not. 20 never came out. Stamina DK.

And sure stones mean nothing. I came with 0 and ill cpme back with 0 cause ill not go away until someone kills me. I already have all the gear i need so gold and stones do no more matter.

Console, Scourge 30 day. We have large zergs that really get meaty when fighting dark anchors in the center.

Helgi_Skotina · October 2015

uberkull wrote: »

Helgi_Skotina wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

So whats' your class and build? Cause the first time I hear that there's a ganker outside my alliance door, I'm bringing 20 players out that door and sending you back to your base with 80% less stones.

So how are you surviving?

Which campaign you play? Sometimes when i gank 1 player, 3 or 4 come out. Sometimes i kill them, sometimes not. 20 never came out. Stamina DK.

And sure stones mean nothing. I came with 0 and ill cpme back with 0 cause ill not go away until someone kills me. I already have all the gear i need so gold and stones do no more matter.

Console, Scourge 30 day. We have large zergs that really get meaty when fighting dark anchors in the center.

Its like Azura on PC/EU. But im on a less populatd campaign.

Reznique · October 2015

Not surprising that it's dead as there is 0 content and 0 incentives to be there

Enemy-of-Coldharbour · October 2015

I go to the sewers daily and it is usually dead. No one want's to group for WGT anymore, or even to zerg for decon.

RatedChaotic · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

Far from it, even VR15-16 mats sells better now, I think most people havent even gotten their VR16 gears yet.

Yep I got 3 v16 legendaries with a few agility pieces and the grind just got so boring. I dont mind grinding but when its that boring it turned into, damn now I gotta farm for my boot mats I'll do that later and play a different game type of attitude. For me anyway.

zornyan · October 2015

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

been looking to do pvp to get caltrops and such

You earn AP and level the Alliance War skill lines while in IC? Never seen either move while in IC all day. I was under the impression the the Alliance War skill line only levels fighting in Cyrodiil. And AP surely isn't earned in IC...is it? Never seen it move.

An hour solo grinding nets me around 1500-2000 stones, starting off with 100 multiplier.

My 2 friends spent a day together solid in IC, running a large loop. It netted them 30k stones, and 120 ethers, 130 bone shards, 60 bloody claws and 100 planar scraps.

Stones are bloody easy to earn imo

Tyrix · October 2015

Would be so awesome if there were an 3vs3 arena, I am normally a pvp player but I will completely focus on pve for this game due to the lack of just that. Or something similar to that.

Forestd16b14_ESO · October 2015

Maybe cause any one does now is Pvdoor there alliances base doors

Sithisvoid · October 2015

Sewers been boring since day 1 I'm glad people are coming back out into cyrodiil

Uberkull · October 2015

zornyan wrote: »

uberkull wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

I have 225k tv stones banked for now

How in the hell? The system for TV stones is so anti-social is ridiculous. For an small area I know I solo in IC, i can come out with 104 stones each time. If I party with one other person, that cuts in half...around 50, if I group with a larger IC group (10 0r more) that same room produces 17 stones, ONE per mob. Are you just stacking 1000 stones before you start and soloing all of sewers? (not possible)

been looking to do pvp to get caltrops and such

You earn AP and level the Alliance War skill lines while in IC? Never seen either move while in IC all day. I was under the impression the the Alliance War skill line only levels fighting in Cyrodiil. And AP surely isn't earned in IC...is it? Never seen it move.

An hour solo grinding nets me around 1500-2000 stones, starting off with 100 multiplier.

My 2 friends spent a day together solid in IC, running a large loop. It netted them 30k stones, and 120 ethers, 130 bone shards, 60 bloody claws and 100 planar scraps.

Stones are bloody easy to earn imo

That would never happen on a console 30 day campaign. The group of two would get rolled and lose those stones on a consistent basis.

SamRothstein · October 2015

I was in IC last night and it was pretty busy.

kevlarto_ESO · October 2015

I gave them 2 months before the only thing in sewers would be sewerage..LOL I think the shine started to wear off a little sooner when you had one faction holding two campaigns and full uncontested access, with the new DLC coming up and access to vr16 crafting material, even less folks will be going into the sewers, might have some action still in the districts, TV stones are not that big a deal, maybe getting trophies, I still go in there once in awhile for things to break down and trophies, outside of that not much time spent in there..

Evergnar · October 2015

My experience has been the lower the pop the more players are in IC.

uso245 · October 2015

Leifnier wrote: »

Recently finished gearing up, been looking to do pvp to get caltrops and such. Running through sewers and in an hour in the most populated server I find 4 people. What am I missing here? Was there any thought put into the longevity of the content?

I come across people and groups all the time in Sewers, probably dependent on the campaign you're running. Having one faction controlling the entire map is a good way to clear out the Sewers as well. On Trueflame yesterday EP took the majority of the map and there was barely anyone in Sewers except for the few farmers like myself.

uso245 · October 2015

Also depends on what you're doing I'm currently sitting on 18k Tel Var stones from farming and a few times ganking groups of players and this was from about a week or so of gameplay.

wayfarerx · October 2015

I did a center run with one of my guilds on Tuesday and we only ran into one group of reds. A few weeks ago a similar run would have had us running into at least three large groups as well as a number of small groups and solos.

It is nice that there's action up in Cryodiil again, however.

uso245 · October 2015

wayfarerx wrote: »

I did a center run with one of my guilds on Tuesday and we only ran into one group of reds. A few weeks ago a similar run would have had us running into at least three large groups as well as a number of small groups and solos.

It is nice that there's action up in Cryodiil again, however.

I love IC and all but after I get my gear I will probably spend more time outside in Cyrodiil as opposed to IC like many other players have. I believe two reasons are the deciding factor as to why IC seems on the decline 1. being people probably already have the gear they want or waiting for Orsinium and 2. being people are tired of getting say 2k TV stones and losing them to a ganker.

Tavore1138 · October 2015

Just no fun to be had there - I got my jewellery fairly fast and there is nothing else in there to want. I have enough money to buy the mats I need for any future crafted sets and hopefully Orsinium will remove the need to even bother with that.

The only real problem is that the whole IC debacle seems to have stuck a knife in the ribs of proper PvP as well whether that's because people are spread over so many new campaigns or because people had high hopes for PvP in IC which then got brutally dashed when ZOS moved away from the initial plans to implement any tactical or strategic PvP features in IC...