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2nd skill bar (post level 15) should be available regardless of weapon armed or not.
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This just blows my mind. Why can't I use the second skill bar without having a second weapon armed? Maybe I want to fist fight! ZOS, please change this immediately! I also want a hand to hand skill line and some brass knuckles!
Edited by Giraffon on October 22, 2015 6:24PM Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭So you want to use your hands, eh?
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✭Aw, I remember when I made a post like this.
In all seriousness, it's because of reasons. I don't know them, I don't really think about them, but I'm sure we'll hear about them if you were to get your questioned answered on ESO Live.0 -
Callous2208✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭The answer to his first question is because there is no hand to hand skill line. The answer to why there is not such a line is because reasons.0 -
UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭Yeah, but unfortunately Pugilism is not a thing in 2E Tamriel...Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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Tryxus✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Yeah, but unfortunately Pugilism is not a thing in 2E Tamriel...
Was that ever a thing in any world or era?
But maybe when we get to see the Akaviri/Tsaeci we might see Martial Arts appear in Tamriel"Stand strong, stay true and shelter all."
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Jura23✭✭✭✭✭
✭Good idea. Actually there is no reason this should not be possible since you can even punch things with your fists in this game.Georgion - Bosmer/Templar - PC/EU0 -
Chieve✭✭✭Op, i understand why you can fight with hands, but i wish your main hand and second hand can use the same weapon. For me, resto staffs rarely drop and id l hate the fact i can use the same skills in both skill lines than being forced to use my good weapon and the other takes a crumy versionPlease vote in the console text chat thread so ZoS can see how many people want text chat
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altemriel✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This just blows my mind. Why can't I use the second skill bar without having a second weapon armed? Maybe I want to fist fight! ZOS, please change this immediately! I also want a hand to hand skill line and some brass knuckles!
a better question for me would be, why do I need to swich weapons to switch the skill bars? Why are thy not both active at the same time and I just swich weapons.
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Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭This just blows my mind. Why can't I use the second skill bar without having a second weapon armed? Maybe I want to fist fight! ZOS, please change this immediately! I also want a hand to hand skill line and some brass knuckles!
a better question for me would be, why do I need to swich weapons to switch the skill bars? Why are thy not both active at the same time and I just swich weapons.
I like having two different active bars, I really like that my entire set of actions is easily within reach of one or two of my fingers. Personally I've never ever liked having 10+ hotkeys at once. Switching is cool, it's the whole lack of an unarmed skill that bites.0 -
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✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Yeah, but unfortunately Pugilism is not a thing in 2E Tamriel...
Was that ever a thing in any world or era?
But maybe when we get to see the Akaviri/Tsaeci we might see Martial Arts appear in Tamriel
4E has brawls and Gloves of the Pugilist so yeah I'd say so based off at least that lolGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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My guild has even had a few events where we ran around naked (well, not entirely naked - we were wearing our guild tabards) punching things to death. we did dolmens, world bosses, and anything and everything punchable that we came across in between. Monkey punching is the best.Good idea. Actually there is no reason this should not be possible since you can even punch things with your fists in this game.
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✭✭✭✭✭Actually it's odd that it's not available when hand 2 hand works
Maybe just a programming challenge IDK but I'd not mind either way. I just grab some random item and equip it-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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✭This just blows my mind. Why can't I use the second skill bar without having a second weapon armed? Maybe I want to fist fight! ZOS, please change this immediately! I also want a hand to hand skill line and some brass knuckles!
a better question for me would be, why do I need to swich weapons to switch the skill bars? Why are thy not both active at the same time and I just swich weapons.
This too! If I want to run exclusively sword and board on both bars, I have to have a twin set. That's just stupid.
One weapon or no weapon should still give two bars!Giraffon - Beta Lizard - For the Pact!0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Yeah, but unfortunately Pugilism is not a thing in 2E Tamriel...
Was that ever a thing in any world or era?
But maybe when we get to see the Akaviri/Tsaeci we might see Martial Arts appear in Tamriel
Khajiit have had unarmed combat traditions for enough generations at this point in history to develop distinct styles, such as Goutfang, Rawlith-Khaj, and Whispering Fang.Men'Do PC NA AD Khajiit
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭This just blows my mind. Why can't I use the second skill bar without having a second weapon armed? Maybe I want to fist fight! ZOS, please change this immediately! I also want a hand to hand skill line and some brass knuckles!
a better question for me would be, why do I need to swich weapons to switch the skill bars? Why are thy not both active at the same time and I just swich weapons.
This too! If I want to run exclusively sword and board on both bars, I have to have a twin set. That's just stupid.
One weapon or no weapon should still give two bars!
You can, however, use 2 different kinds of the same weapon. For example in the case of 1h and Shield you could run a Fire Enchantment on 1 Sword and a Poison Enchantment on the other. So many options that make using only 1 type of Weapon more versatile, not to mention the sets they can work with.Guildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭Is it that hard to just equip a weapon? Just make a low level weapon or something if you want to use a 2nd bar for the sake of using it. Don't want to? You get penalise, it's that simple0 -
Giraffon✭✭✭✭✭
✭The way it really SHOULD be is that you get both skill bars no matter what. They must have coded it in such a way that there are now dependencies that make it problematic to have a skills bar without a weapon actively assigned to it.
I can think of a couple ways around this, but if they don't want to fix the problem, a work around would be to add something like brass knuckles into the game. The animations for these would be the same as unarmed, but then the coding requirement of a weapon being armed would then be met. Seems simple enough to me.
Make it so Zenimax!
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