Sad but true. Magicka Templars are in a rough spot in PVP in 1v1 situations. 2v2 up to zergvzerg, they are amazing support. If you want to PVP on a magkica temp, get in a group and support them with heals and utility.

zornyan wrote: »

Honestly magicka templars are doing amazing right now, my current magicka templar is using

2x Torugs swords gold nirnhoned
4x martial knowledge
3x seducer
3x willpower with 3 spell damage glyphs.

Currently sitting around 34k magicka buffed, with 3800 spell power.

I'm waiting for orsinium to drop to make 5 piece julianos and get 1 piece kena to push it up to over 4100 spell power buffed.


My race is imperial giving me nearly 20k hp with food.

Quite literally barely ever lose 1v1. Nightblades are easy pickings as slapping down channel focus and purifying ritual gives me medium + armor rating, and a good constant heal/purge.

Puncturing sweeps seems to be doing very good damage, a couple sweeps and a radiant destruction and most people are dead

Only class that seem a bit harder to beat are sorcerers, mainly because sweeps is bugged and not applying 140% bonus damage to shields, so my main dps skill is a bit useless against the shield stackers, but even then, a well timed javelin / toppling charge puts them in their arse and then a quick few sweeps and they're dead.

How did you do the Champion Points?

Why is everyone always bringing up the 1v1 in a mass pvp game ...

Magicka Templars have a higher upside than any other class. I still cannot understand the hate but whatever. Here is my set up off of memory.

Imperial VR10, all 58 points into magic, about 90CP mostly info magicka recovery and increased healing.

Duel Wield Bar 1: Breath of Life, Stamina Morph of the throwing spear for the 3 second knockdown, Radiant Oppression, Inner Light, Structured Entropy
Resto Staff Bar 2: Same except rapid manuvuers instead of the spear.

5 light/ 2 heavy

4 piece soul shine (rings, chest and shoulders)
4 peice Necropetance
Helmet, 1 sword and Resto staff are Magnus
Necklace and 1 sword are will power

After food I'm about 32K Magic, 24 health and 11 stam in my DW bar.

I go mundus where possible but the drop sets have some useless traits. The ridiculous amount of magic you get with Necropetance makes up for it though. All magic enchants.

PVP style: open with spear, melt with Radiant Oppression, hit RO a second time if necessary. 9/10 opponents dead within 5 seconds.

Ultimates are practiced incantation on the Resto bar and Soul Assault (I think that's what it's called) on my DW bar. Enjoy!

Templatrs on PVP ?

Magicka Templars are pretty good atm. Heres a vid from IC PvP. Its not a build guide, but you can kind of figure it out.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2361597/#Comment_2361597

I was running a non optimal PvE build and did decently. Especially considering how bad I am.

Switching over to something similar to this build.

Templars are one of those classes that are straightforward, but hard to master. An average templar is a free kill, but a master templar is godlike. They have utility which many do not use/find it difficult to use and thus lose in battle.

Having already one of each class v16, i rolled a templar 2 months ago, crafted him good gear and specced him pretty much the same way as i did with my sorcerer at higher ranks, who btw melts face.
Now i honestly find it ridiculous with all these complaints that templar is underpowered/weak/cannon fodder etc etc
I'm fully familiar with all game's mechanics and mastering him didn't take very long and now he is my sorcerer v2.0. He melts face just as efficiently, for survivability i have heals as opposed to shields and for escape i just use invisibility pots or Immovable pots with speed buff bonus. He is near indestructible just by spamming jabs, the return heal is huge esp vs multiple targets.

I'm not claiming to be the best player, not by a long stretch, but IMHO templars are alright, but it takes time to master and gear properly. People come complaining before they've reached that stage.

Even when on my sorcerer, new templars are pretty much free kills, i agree, but I've faced more than enough templars that i either can't touch and it's a stalemate, or i get JavPierced and RadDestructed to death before i even recover from the stun. And i have also seen a templar singlehandedly take down a group of 8 people, and he wasn't a emperor or anything, just a high ranking, good player.

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Notice how none of the top PVPers out there run magicka Templars?

I don't believe that to be true... I've seen some pretty crazy Magicka Templars.

danielpatrickkeaneub17_ESO wrote: »

Top PVPer is an absurd title to begin with. How do you determine that? Emperor leader boards are cluttered with wall repairman who can play 100 hours a week. Some are great, some aren't. Also, not having a twitch stream doesn't mean you can't be really good. Popularity does not always equal good. How about really good PVPers who can only play 5 hours a week? What about people who play with versus without add ons?

Here's what I know. I'm a magicka Templar and have over 2000 kills since console launch while playing 5-10 hours a week.

I have a Magicka Templar on Xbox, right around 8500 kills.... I'm addicted to ESO though, need help.

CrowsDescend wrote: »

In PvP? heh.. you're better off rolling a class that can escape/has mobility.

Yeah, going into a fight as a templar you are either going to win or die. No backing out of a fight unless you have invisible pots. Vampirsim can help a lot too. You have the best class heals as a templar so the health regen loss isn't terrible.

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

Notice how none of the top PVPers out there run magicka Templars?

There are some very good PvPers that run magicka Templars. Not everyone just 1vXs.

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

If you are fully geared maximized anything you're going to be in a good spot. The normal templar who might be grinding for mats or be in a mix V15 and v16 gear won't be able to have the consistent success against other average geared players.

Yes, until you run into another fully geared maximized player, that happens to play another class. Than it's magicka templar jailbait.

Gear + CP and of course experience is a much bigger deal than class in PvP right now. PvP is extremely polarized. Why you get mixed replies about success with classes and builds.

Lower VR's or new players have no chance against 500+ CP fully decked out VR16 chars. Class is irrelevant at that point.

Topic: There's no good 1v1 or solo builds for magicka templars. You have no skill to slot that gives mobility to keep up with stam builds or sorc + NB. You have 0 oh-*** buttons to defend or disengage from pressure or when multiple attackers. You cant use your class shield, vampire or Eclipse multiple target any more. When fighting a Templar, all you need to do is cc and mash dps really, since no specific counters required.

Loads of good templar builds for groups though.

eliisra wrote: »

Lord Xanhorn wrote: »

If you are fully geared maximized anything you're going to be in a good spot. The normal templar who might be grinding for mats or be in a mix V15 and v16 gear won't be able to have the consistent success against other average geared players.

Yes, until you run into another fully geared maximized player, that happens to play another class. Than it's magicka templar jailbait.

Gear + CP and of course experience is a much bigger deal than class in PvP right now. PvP is extremely polarized. Why you get mixed replies about success with classes and builds.

Lower VR's or new players have no chance against 500+ CP fully decked out VR16 chars. Class is irrelevant at that point.

Topic: There's no good 1v1 or solo builds for magicka templars. You have no skill to slot that gives mobility to keep up with stam builds or sorc + NB. You have 0 oh-*** buttons to defend or disengage from pressure or when multiple attackers. You cant use your class shield, vampire or Eclipse multiple target any more. When fighting a Templar, all you need to do is cc and mash dps really, since no specific counters required.

Loads of good templar builds for groups though.

I'm sorry, but 1v1 situations are a place where Templars can excel. I don't get this whole not built for solo/1v1 statement I keep reading. 1v1, you don't need an escape, you need sustain. Which is something that the Magicka Templar has plenty of..

I laugh at roots. Seriously, root me all day long. Unless you have 3 or more people to swarm me with while I'm rooted I'm just going to spam breath of life and then melt you 5 seconds later.

Fear can be a problem but only against the top NBs. For every one that knows the right combo to melt me there are 10 that can't burn me down fast enough who get melted for their trouble.

Knockdowns are the worst by far. Not much that I can do versus that.

As for mobility why does everyone act like rapid maneuvers doesn't exist?

The only thing Templars suck at in PVP is going 1 on 3 versus people who use knockdowns.