Question about magicka sustain in heavy armor - DK.

OrphanHelgen · October 2015

Good evening.

After almost 90 days played on my stamina DD DK, I think its time to move on, specially with Maelstrom Arena ahead. I am currently so bored of stamina dps its not fun for me anymore. The meta enjoys it a lot I see, but for me, stam DK is old news.

I was thinking of a survivability damage build with a lot of self healing.
The problem is, the vr16 mats as we all know the story of.
I don't think I get a valid impression by having vr15 gear with rekuta enchants compare to vr16 with kuta, so when I craft myself some gear, I craft the best.
Since this playstyle of mine is expensive, I need help from experienced players before I craft something stupid and regret.

In was thinking at least 5 set heavy armor for tanky and the healing received. And Seducer set for magicka sustain.
Question is, can a DK sustain with this? And is the healing from the fire abilities enough, or do I need a restostaff as well?

I am Orc race btw, never played magicka DK. Not gonna reroll race. I love the little guy

Thanks for inputs and answers.

usmcjdking · October 2015

Stack a bunch of health recovery and go orgnum's scales.

Dat 10% HP tick every 2 second.

OrphanHelgen · October 2015

usmcjdking wrote: »

Stack a bunch of health recovery and go orgnum's scales.

Dat 10% HP tick every 2 second.

I have had hp recovery in mind before, but never found some sets I liked. I have hp regen as race passive too tho, might check this out one more time before I make a decision.

Yonkit · October 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

Stack a bunch of health recovery and go orgnum's scales.

Dat 10% HP tick every 2 second.

I have had hp recovery in mind before, but never found some sets I liked. I have hp regen as race passive too tho, might check this out one more time before I make a decision.

5 Akaviri Dragonguard 3 Potentates 2 Cyrod Light 4 Magnus (On offbar.)

Sword n Board both bars, magicka enchants on ereethang. If you're PvPing, use purple drinks, for the health regen as stated above, for PvE, purple food. Between your 25% Ultimate reduction and Cost reduction on jewelry, as well as the correct CP allotment, you'll be fine. Damage is going to be subpar, that's why I suggested Sword n Board Magnus and 2 pieces of armor to swap bars too and apply DoTs as well as any dmg you want to do, with the stam regen nerf to blocking... It's going to be painful no matter what you do though.

Peel_Ya_Cap_517 · October 2015

Yonkit wrote: »

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

Stack a bunch of health recovery and go orgnum's scales.

Dat 10% HP tick every 2 second.

I have had hp recovery in mind before, but never found some sets I liked. I have hp regen as race passive too tho, might check this out one more time before I make a decision.

5 Akaviri Dragonguard 3 Potentates 2 Cyrod Light 4 Magnus (On offbar.)

Sword n Board both bars, magicka enchants on ereethang. If you're PvPing, use purple drinks, for the health regen as stated above, for PvE, purple food. Between your 25% Ultimate reduction and Cost reduction on jewelry, as well as the correct CP allotment, you'll be fine. Damage is going to be subpar, that's why I suggested Sword n Board Magnus and 2 pieces of armor to swap bars too and apply DoTs as well as any dmg you want to do, with the stam regen nerf to blocking... It's going to be painful no matter what you do though.

How can you wear 5 Dragonguard AND 3 potentates?

Don't these both contain sword and shield as pieces?

Personofsecrets · October 2015

I sustain pretty well with magnus, the regen mundus stone, and drink in pvp

usmcjdking · October 2015

OrphanHelgen wrote: »

usmcjdking wrote: »

Stack a bunch of health recovery and go orgnum's scales.

Dat 10% HP tick every 2 second.

I have had hp recovery in mind before, but never found some sets I liked. I have hp regen as race passive too tho, might check this out one more time before I make a decision.

In Cyro, when I'm on that purple drank, my health regen sits at 2661 WITHOUT the scales. I used to rock it before IC hit and may craft myself a second set at V16 shortly. My health regen with Orgnum's if I replace my Ashen's will be 4300 every 2 seconds when under 60% HP.

While not the best set on the books (and it definitely does not offer the sexiness that some other solo sets like Vampire's Kiss does), I can't see anything in the Maelstrom Arena being able to outdo that regen on top of any subsequent healing I have pouring in.

Wing · October 2015

person of secrets and I were just talking about this.

he prefers magnus for the damage that's required in pvp, and I went with seducer (I go food though) combined with the mundus for magicka regen. there is also a bit of debate over the 5 piece bonus, as seducer could suffer from diminishing returns if you stack to much cost reduction, while magnus is random but is a unique bonus that will not suffer.

he went more spell damage in his enchants and I went with recovery and cost reduction (once again because I went food and he went drink)

I think he is running the same 5 heavy and 2 light as me and we both report no problem with sustain, though I think we are both running 2 piece engine guardian as well.

so yes it seems very doable and is similar to the full metal builds of 1.6

OrphanHelgen · October 2015

Wing wrote: »

person of secrets and I were just talking about this.

he prefers magnus for the damage that's required in pvp, and I went with seducer (I go food though) combined with the mundus for magicka regen. there is also a bit of debate over the 5 piece bonus, as seducer could suffer from diminishing returns if you stack to much cost reduction, while magnus is random but is a unique bonus that will not suffer.

he went more spell damage in his enchants and I went with recovery and cost reduction (once again because I went food and he went drink)

I think he is running the same 5 heavy and 2 light as me and we both report no problem with sustain, though I think we are both running 2 piece engine guardian as well.

so yes it seems very doable and is similar to the full metal builds of 1.6

Thanks alot all of you

. I was thinking the same thing here, that I switch mundus according to situation, if I need more regen or not. I think I will go with food anyway since I like max hp.

Nice to know its not a waste if I make the set in heavy. Or atleast not before vr18 comes