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DPS - Which Class Does It Best?

BorrawinTheWarrior
So i have a friend joining the ESO community. He wants to play a DPS class, and I want to be able to suggest a good one to him.

So. I created this thread to ask everyone their opinions, and perhaps facts with data, on which class/race combination yields the most DPS in the game. Keep in mind, the characters we will be playing are going to be PVE orientated.

All opinions are welcome. I'd love to hear them all.

Discuss :)
Edited by BorrawinTheWarrior on October 2, 2015 11:41PM
  • remilafo
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    magicka Dragon Knights seem to be the best from what i have observed... with Stamina templar's in second place.
  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    You'll start a war with such a question ;)

    I think all 4 classes are good for DPS and can reach high numbers, but the easiest to play is probably something like a dunmer magicka DK. Looks like the best combination for high sustainable DPS.

    I play a magicka sorc DPS myself, and can reach very decent DPS with it, but I can never reach the very high figures that some people talk about in the forums, and there are quite a lot of fight about "sorcs suck at DPS" and "sorcs are the best DPS in the game" so I'm not sure what to think ;-). I just find the magicka sorc a little bit restricted when it comes to pulling very high DPS, basically I have not much choice it's ONE type of gear and ONE type of rotation, not several to choose from.

    I don't know enough about the two other classes but from what I can see around me obviously nightblades are very good for DPS. Templars seem to be quite behind (but I have examples for excellent templar DPS too...)

  • BorrawinTheWarrior
    Honestly I hope to cause a debate war. A lot of options gives me a lot of things to try out.
  • BorrawinTheWarrior
    I can't believe more people aren't discussing this topic. IHUNGERFORKNOWLEDGE!!!
  • BorrawinTheWarrior
    @anitajoneb17_ESO

    I would have to say I have seen a lot of the same thing. I have seen some classes play one way and do terrible damage. Then they switch a couple things and the damage soars. It's really hard to pin point some of the best builds for dps. Reason being is because there are so many things (gear,boons,attributes,skills,race,morphs,enchants,armor traits) that can be altered that all make up our characters and how they perform.
  • Olen_Mikko
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    remilafo wrote: »
    magicka Dragon Knights seem to be the best from what i have observed... with Stamina templar's in second place.

    You must be joking right?

    Nightblades, especially stamina NB's are all about doing high damage and killing opponents before they can react.

    NB's passives gives bonuses doing damage from stealth and high burst.

    Best choices for stamina NB is imperial (good passives for health too) redguard (all about stamina) bosmer (awesome regen and stealth damage bonus) and khajiit (stealth damage + crit bonus)

    Other hard-hitting class is sorcs, even with all the nerfs.

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    4. Cyrodiil-Refugee stamblade - Stamina Tank / PvE

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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Olen_Mikko wrote: »
    NB's passives gives bonuses doing damage from stealth and high burst.

    Best choices for stamina NB is imperial (good passives for health too)

    Discussion is about PVE endgame DPS. Stealth is not relevant there. Unless you want to use stealth boni with Mantikora^^ ... ?

    Edited by anitajoneb17_ESO on October 3, 2015 9:49AM
  • 13igTyme
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    Olen_Mikko wrote: »
    remilafo wrote: »
    magicka Dragon Knights seem to be the best from what i have observed... with Stamina templar's in second place.

    You must be joking right?

    Nightblades, especially stamina NB's are all about doing high damage and killing opponents before they can react.

    NB's passives gives bonuses doing damage from stealth and high burst.

    Best choices for stamina NB is imperial (good passives for health too) redguard (all about stamina) bosmer (awesome regen and stealth damage bonus) and khajiit (stealth damage + crit bonus)

    Other hard-hitting class is sorcs, even with all the nerfs.

    One could argue that sustained damage is better in pve. Its for sure better in long fights.
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  • Elara_Northwind
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    I can't speak for all classes/builds, but of my 3 higher level characters, v16 magic sorc, v16 magic templar and v10 stamina dk, my templar and dk dish out more sustained damage than my sorc. My stamina dk is equalling (and occasionally even outdoing) my templars damage and is only vet10 in vet6 armour :lol: He will be a beast when he reaches vet16 :lol: and is also very survivable now, thanks to some very kind people on the forums who enlightened me on how to heal using stamina builds :blush: I never enjoyed playing stamina before and always avoided it, but now, I am loving it!
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  • The Uninvited
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    Olen_Mikko wrote: »
    remilafo wrote: »
    magicka Dragon Knights seem to be the best from what i have observed... with Stamina templar's in second place.

    You must be joking right?

    Nightblades, especially stamina NB's are all about doing high damage and killing opponents before they can react.

    NB's passives gives bonuses doing damage from stealth and high burst.

    Best choices for stamina NB is imperial (good passives for health too) redguard (all about stamina) bosmer (awesome regen and stealth damage bonus) and khajiit (stealth damage + crit bonus)

    Other hard-hitting class is sorcs, even with all the nerfs.

    He wants to PVE not PVP.
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  • Zinaroth
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    Altmer Sorcerer for single target.
    Breton Magicka NB for AoE and group support.
    Dunme Magicka DKs only really excel in trials.

    The best setup we've found for groups in Hodor is:
    Magicka based DK/NB tank
    Templar healer
    Magicka Sorcerer for it's massive single target damage output on bosses
    Magicka NB for it's nice AoE, decent single target, defensive Veil ulti and Funnel Health healing support

    Overall I think your friend is better off with a magicka NB. When he reaches around 300 CP he can run the same build and both tank or DPS just by switching gear. They have really good solo potential and awesome support for a group. Also if he ever decides to PvP, NBs are really well off right now.

    On the other hand if he only cares about doing as much DPS on a single target fight then Sorcerers are currently king
  • jebuspowers
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    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Altmer Sorcerer for single target.
    Breton Magicka NB for AoE and group support.
    Dunme Magicka DKs only really excel in trials.

    The best setup we've found for groups in Hodor is:
    Magicka based DK/NB tank
    Templar healer
    Magicka Sorcerer for it's massive single target damage output on bosses
    Magicka NB for it's nice AoE, decent single target, defensive Veil ulti and Funnel Health healing support

    Overall I think your friend is better off with a magicka NB. When he reaches around 300 CP he can run the same build and both tank or DPS just by switching gear. They have really good solo potential and awesome support for a group. Also if he ever decides to PvP, NBs are really well off right now.

    On the other hand if he only cares about doing as much DPS on a single target fight then Sorcerers are currently king

    I agree.
  • Dracane
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    Magicka DK
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  • DannyLV702
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    Magicka NB all day lol
  • temjiu
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    Rogues...

    Cause they do it in the dark.
  • Bhakura
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    Had a v16tank leave group yesterday because dps was 2 NB
    v2 and v4 for v2 silver ...
    argument: "nbs cant dps, sorry im out"
    i was like huh? its v2 silver for crying out loud ...

    Edited by Bhakura on October 21, 2015 8:19AM
  • Jitterbug
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    Yeah magicka DK right now, but then they'll patch something and stamina templar (or whatever) will be on top.

    Tell your friend to roll what he thinks is the coolest. All classes have many ups and downs during the life span of a game.
  • a.skelton92
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    Jitterbug wrote: »
    Yeah magicka DK right now, but then they'll patch something and stamina templar (or whatever) will be on top.

    Tell your friend to roll what he thinks is the coolest. All classes have many ups and downs during the life span of a game.

    This.

    You will pick a class now that is OP but in a month could be trash. Then a year later it will be good again. The BEST are always the ones that stick with 'x' class through all the highs and lows.
  • Grisemn
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    Sorc do have the higest dps with overload without its DK, magica verisons
  • Cillion3117
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    It's more about the player then the class. Good build + good gear = good dps.
  • kupacmac
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    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Breton Magicka NB for AoE and group support.

    Out of curiosity, what AoE abilities does a Magicka NB bring that makes them best in that regard? Every time I'm in a PuG with my healer or tank and we have 2 NB DPS the AoE damage is severely lacking. Are they all stamina based? Or maybe Cyrodiil refugees? Or does NB attract 99% of the nubs? It's seriously getting to the point where I'm not even going to bother doing a PuG vet run with 2 NB's anymore.
  • quickblade418
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    Id say magicka DK first place, then magicka sorc, then Magicka NB third place
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  • Xvorg
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    kupacmac wrote: »
    Zinaroth wrote: »
    Breton Magicka NB for AoE and group support.

    Out of curiosity, what AoE abilities does a Magicka NB bring that makes them best in that regard? Every time I'm in a PuG with my healer or tank and we have 2 NB DPS the AoE damage is severely lacking. Are they all stamina based? Or maybe Cyrodiil refugees? Or does NB attract 99% of the nubs? It's seriously getting to the point where I'm not even going to bother doing a PuG vet run with 2 NB's anymore.

    I think he refers to Sap essence an the Ultis (VoB and/or ST)

    Regarding the mag NB, what about using a fire staff > Merciless resolve with molag kena's > 4 light attacks > assasin will? Does that do high dmg or AW is calculated at the moment MR is activated?
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Magical Night Blade that's all you can play as now is a magical NB spamming surprise attack and WB.
  • Corrupted_Soul
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    Olen_Mikko wrote: »
    remilafo wrote: »
    magicka Dragon Knights seem to be the best from what i have observed... with Stamina templar's in second place.

    You must be joking right?

    Nightblades, especially stamina NB's are all about doing high damage and killing opponents before they can react.

    NB's passives gives bonuses doing damage from stealth and high burst.

    Best choices for stamina NB is imperial (good passives for health too) redguard (all about stamina) bosmer (awesome regen and stealth damage bonus) and khajiit (stealth damage + crit bonus)

    Other hard-hitting class is sorcs, even with all the nerfs.


    Clearly he's talking about PVE.

    NB's are all about ganking your opponent so you don't have to fight them - that's it.
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  • Aerieth
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    temjiu wrote: »
    Rogues...

    Cause they do it in the dark.

    And from behind.
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