Are there any plans to introduce more stamina morphs to DK?

Alucardo · September 2015

Hey ZOS,

Just wondering if you have any plans to introduce more stamina morphs to DK skill lines. The DoT ones are highly appreciated, but more of the useful skills are still relying 100% on magicka

- Talons
- Spiked armour
- Dragon blood (This is kind of lost its usefulness, so not a huge priority)
- Reflective scales (I'd like to use this, but go with def stance because it's a low costing stamina alternative)
- Molten Weapons
- Obsidian Shield (I could be wrong, but the strength of this shield seems to depend solely on your maximum magicka. Why don't we have a stamina/health version of this?)
- Petrify

That's quite a lot of frequently used skills that do not have a stamina alternative. On the plus side my stamina resource management is excellent - not that you're giving me much choice.

If anything, the main ones I'd like to see with stam morphs are:

- Obsidian Shield (Dragon Blood is really bad, so an extra shield based on my maximum health or stamina that costs stamina would be appreciated)
- Reflective Scales (4 second duration.. fair enough, but seems stam builds don't have a large magicka base and this spell needs constant activation to keep it up, can we get a stam morph of this please? It's literally cheaper and safer for me to recast defensive stance after every reflect, but more annoying)

I'm pretty sure people are going to have their own opinions on what stam morphs they'd desire, or cut me down for even suggesting such a thing, but it's a problem and I wanted to bring it up.

Cheers!

jayburna688 · October 2015

Alucardo wrote: »

Hey ZOS,

Just wondering if you have any plans to introduce more stamina morphs to DK skill lines. The DoT ones are highly appreciated, but more of the useful skills are still relying 100% on magicka

- Talons
- Spiked armour
- Dragon blood (This is kind of lost its usefulness, so not a huge priority)
- Reflective scales (I'd like to use this, but go with def stance because it's a low costing stamina alternative)
- Molten Weapons
- Obsidian Shield (I could be wrong, but the strength of this shield seems to depend solely on your maximum magicka. Why don't we have a stamina/health version of this?)
- Petrify

That's quite a lot of frequently used skills that do not have a stamina alternative. On the plus side my stamina resource management is excellent - not that you're giving me much choice.

If anything, the main ones I'd like to see with stam morphs are:

- Obsidian Shield (Dragon Blood is really bad, so an extra shield based on my maximum health or stamina that costs stamina would be appreciated)
- Reflective Scales (4 second duration.. fair enough, but seems stam builds don't have a large magicka base and this spell needs constant activation to keep it up, can we get a stam morph of this please? It's literally cheaper and safer for me to recast defensive stance after every reflect, but more annoying)

I'm pretty sure people are going to have their own opinions on what stam morphs they'd desire, or cut me down for even suggesting such a thing, but it's a problem and I wanted to bring it up.

Cheers!

I was also wondering about the lack of stamina morphs. It would be really nice to see a few of these get an alternative morph so that you can have more options/balance.

drzycki_ESO · October 2015

BUT that will take away ability options from the already weaker magicka DK. Fix the magicka DK first before taking options away from them.

P.S. Stay away from my Molten Whip.

Alucardo · October 2015

drzycki_ESO wrote: »

P.S. Stay away from my Molten Whip.

Haha it's all good. I want Flame lash for dose heals. You can keep embers.

Asmael · October 2015

...Why the hell would you want your utility to draw on stamina?

If you don't use your magicka pool at all, you're doing it wrong, which is why if I played a stam sorc, I'd pick Boundless storm, not the stamina morph.

As for this one:

Alucardo wrote: »

- Obsidian Shield (I could be wrong, but the strength of this shield seems to depend solely on your maximum magicka. Why don't we have a stamina/health version of this?)

It scales based on your maximum health (which is why you got some "crazy" 4k shields at VR16 on a magicka DK...).

All of the skills you mention don't have stamina morph, and even if they did, they wouldn't benefit from it, with the exception of Talons.

I can get it if you want a stam morph for a damage ability, but why utility? If anything else, it gimps your build while also giving even less options in the end.

Alucardo · October 2015

Asmael wrote: »

...Why the hell would you want your utility to draw on stamina?

If you don't use your magicka pool at all, you're doing it wrong, which is why if I played a stam sorc, I'd pick Boundless storm, not the stamina morph.

As for this one:

Alucardo wrote: »

- Obsidian Shield (I could be wrong, but the strength of this shield seems to depend solely on your maximum magicka. Why don't we have a stamina/health version of this?)

It scales based on your maximum health (which is why you got some "crazy" 4k shields at VR16 on a magicka DK...).

All of the skills you mention don't have stamina morph, and even if they did, they wouldn't benefit from it, with the exception of Talons.

I can get it if you want a stam morph for a damage ability, but why utility? If anything else, it gimps your build while also giving even less options in the end.

I guess the post is somewhat confusing - I wouldn't want everything to have a stamina morph. Quite frankly I'm happy to leave the defensive abilities as magicka and have a stam whip. At least ONE of them have a stam alternative, because at the moment all we have is DoTs, which can be purged or cloaked off. Having a damaging ability like whip would be very useful.

Scyantific · October 2015

None of the other classes have Stamina morphs for utility skills. Why should DK be any different?

Give Chains, Whip, and Stonefist (this is the exact opposite of Killer's Blade, a magicka skill that deals Physical damage; WTF Zeni?) stamina morphs. You could probably make a case for Talons though.