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Vet 16 High Elf Sorc Magic Needs Help PVE

RaptorizR
RaptorizR
I can't figure out a decent build to put out damage someone suggested dual wield but my recovery is really bad lol any help on skills and so on would be helpful.
  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    Any help or tips is appreciated!
  • Septimus_Magna
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    bar 1, fire staff:
    -endless fury (execute)
    -crushing shock (main dps + interrupt)
    -crystal frags (nuke + knock-down)
    -liquid lighting (aoe dot)
    -inner light (spell crit buff)
    >shooting star (single target + aoe dot)

    bar 2, lighting staff:
    -harness magicka (spell shield)
    -hardened ward (dmg shield)
    -pulsar (aoe)
    -power surge (spell dmg buff)
    -inner light (spell crit buff)
    >overload (single target dps) or barrier (for magicka regen)

    Mundus stone: Thief (12% spell crit)
    Buff food: blue v15 health and magicka
    Gear enchants: 7x magick
    Jewelry enchants: 3x spell dmg

    Gear sets depend on what monster sets you have, I prefer Nerienths 2pc because the lich crystal procs all the time and deals pretty good dmg.
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    What should my spell damage be at then only.monster set I have fully is engine guardian I'm running 4 martial 2 to rugs 3 willpower with spell dmg enchants
  • Septimus_Magna
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    RaptorizR wrote: »
    What should my spell damage be at then only.monster set I have fully is engine guardian I'm running 4 martial 2 to rugs 3 willpower with spell dmg enchants

    I think thats fine for now, you might want to make 5pc Julianos when Orsinium is released. And you could add Molag Kena shoulders/head for the extra spell dmg (or 3pc torugs pact if you dont have it). Nerienths added around 2k single target dps for me so if you have the shoulders I would advice to grind until you get the head.

    With your current setup you should get around 3054 spell dmg buffed on you destro staff bars.

    For single target dps you could use a 2H torugs pact sword on your second bar to increase the overload dmg. With overload spam+liquid lightning you will do around 22-25k dps for a short duration, around 60 seconds with 1000 stored ultimate.
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • SkylarkAU
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    Yolo Wizard's build is really strong link

    I'm using a similar build with twice born star 5 piece armour instead of overwhelming mage + torugs armour and pulling decent numbers..

    If you're having trouble with sustain you or your healer can try using elemental drain, siphon spirit or mystic orb. As you're a sorc I highly recommend using power overload as well since it costs no magicka and does massive damage while restoring magikca at the same time..

    Also for overload, duel wield is reportedly better as the 2H passives dont come in to effect while you're on your overload bar..
    Edited by SkylarkAU on October 20, 2015 11:47AM
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  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    Alright I have DW swords and one piece armor which is boots my problem is if I run all magic glyphs and the thief stone my health is so low...I can't make twice born star...I'm stuck with martial until I can farm or make better gear
  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    I'm new to games like this so all this help is greatly appreciated
  • SkylarkAU
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    RaptorizR wrote: »
    Alright I have DW swords and one piece armor which is boots my problem is if I run all magic glyphs and the thief stone my health is so low...I can't make twice born star...I'm stuck with martial until I can farm or make better gear

    Where are you at in terms of VR & CP?

    You def want to use blue food for pve stuff (max health + magicka).. if you can get to 17-18k hp then you should be ok. If not you might consider moving some attribute points over to health or swapping an enchant on a large piece of armour until you get there as earning CP will also slowly increase your stats.
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  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    I'm VR 16 125 CP all the builds I look up people have like 500 plus CP so I'm lost lol I run v15 blue foods my health is only at like 16000 though
  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    With food^
  • Septimus_Magna
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    RaptorizR wrote: »
    I'm VR 16 125 CP all the builds I look up people have like 500 plus CP so I'm lost lol I run v15 blue foods my health is only at like 16000 though

    Do you have the undaunted mettle passive for 6% stat increase if you wear 3 armor types?

    That would push your health up to almost 17k, so 1x health enchant on chest/head/legs would get you to 18k health.
    PC - EU (AD)
    Septimus Mezar - Altmer Sorcerer
    Septimus Rulanir - Orsimer Templar
    Septimus Desmoru - Khajiit Necromancer
    Septimus Iroh - Dunmer Dragon Knight
    Septimus Thragar - Dunmer Nightblade
    Septimus Jah'zar - Khajiit Nightblade
    Septimus Nerox - Redguard Warden
    Septimus Ozurk - Orsimer Sorcerer
  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    No I almost have it though Im really close to 9
  • SkylarkAU
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    RaptorizR wrote: »
    I'm VR 16 125 CP all the builds I look up people have like 500 plus CP so I'm lost lol I run v15 blue foods my health is only at like 16000 though

    Do you have the undaunted mettle passive for 6% stat increase if you wear 3 armor types?

    That would push your health up to almost 17k, so 1x health enchant on chest/head/legs would get you to 18k health.

    +1

    Ideal set up is 1 heavy and 1 medium on any of the large armour pieces (head, chest, legs), but it can depend on which monster set pieces you have to work with.
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  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    Does it have to be a monster piece all I have is engine guardian and both pieces are heavy
  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    I mean one light one heavy
  • SkylarkAU
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    That's ok, as long as you have 5 light, 1 medium and 1 heavy all up. Having your heavy and medium pieces on either chest/legs/head will give you slightly more armour but it's not going to make a dramatic impact. Monster pieces are just another term for the sets you get from undaunted chests and bosses e.g. engine guardian
    Edited by SkylarkAU on October 20, 2015 12:28PM
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  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    Yeah I just need people to farm WGT with lol I need to replace my martial or get molag kena
  • SkylarkAU
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    molag kena is pretty great but you'll get the most benefit straight up by crafting some v16 gear with the traits and weights you want.. #thegrindisreal
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  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    What gear would I craft though lol is anything better than martial that I can craft right now
  • SkylarkAU
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    An easy place to start would be 1 piece molag kena, 5 piece kagrenacs hope, 4 piece torugs pact (1 armour, 1 staff and 2 swords).. but if it's going to take you a while you're probably better of saving your mats for Julianos next patch or maybe twice born star if you want to go that way instead while farming both pieces of molag kena in the meantime.. Those are probably the three best choices I can think of.
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  • RaptorizR
    RaptorizR
    I have v16 swords staff and boots already lol so at least I have some of that
  • Kwivur
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    What's a good heal without having to use a resto staff?
  • SkylarkAU
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    RaptorizR wrote: »
    I have v16 swords staff and boots already lol so at least I have some of that

    sweet
    Kwivur wrote: »
    What's a good heal without having to use a resto staff?

    power surge if you have high crit rating, or a templar buddy
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  • Kwivur
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    Does vigor have a magicka morph?
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    Unfortunately not :/

    Healing ward is really the best heal for sorcerer if you're playing without a dedicated healer.. best thing to do is cast hardened ward then healing ward as the first ward absorbs damage first - that way you have more healing ward left to heal you when the timer runs out.
    Edited by SkylarkAU on October 20, 2015 12:50PM
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  • Kwivur
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    Yeah, that's what I'm running. Just want to run DW on both bars, I'm dependent on the healing ward.
  • Kwivur
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    When Orsinium drops, I plan on running 5x Julianos, 1x Molag Keena and 5x Kagrenacs Hope for undaunted pledges and dungeon runs. With the usual 3x willpower/SD set-up. Should be perfect for it.
  • SkylarkAU
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    Then power surge is your best option plus maybe unstable clannfear (it heals you when it dies or you toggle it off) and also the passive heal you get from dark magic abilities (blood magic passive). Apart from that you can also use pots I guess..
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  • Kwivur
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    Yeah, I run power surge. Might lvl up the blood well or whatever it is from the undaunted tree. See what that does for me.
  • SkylarkAU
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    Kwivur wrote: »
    When Orsinium drops, I plan on running 5x Julianos, 1x Molag Keena and 5x Kagrenacs Hope for undaunted pledges and dungeon runs. With the usual 3x willpower/SD set-up. Should be perfect for it.

    You're gonna be 1 slot short to fit all that in, you might want to drop the 1 piece molag kena since the 5 piece bonuses for kag and julianos are where it's at - you'll only be able to have one or the other active at a time though depending on which weapon bar you're on..
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