I agree... I just hope it's not more of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYQLhqooh0E

Advertising is truly a double-edge sword. Think about this:

When Skyrim was released, Bethesda did an awesome trailer that was made from game footage. The music was inspiring, it was well written, and it contained some epic lines (for example, "and when the truth finally dawned ... it dawned in fire!")

Now think about when ESO was released. They chose to do four live action trailers. They were pretty awesome but these trailers are one reason why I waited to buy the game until recently. Why?

Because what I saw was a company that was afraid to show me what its game looked like. Live action trailers - to me - are big warning that what's in the game isn't worth showing to the public.

(BTW, notice that the FALLOUT 4 trailers are made from gameplay footage, too.)

lordrichter wrote: »

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

Advertising is truly a double-edge sword. Think about this:

When Skyrim was released, Bethesda did an awesome trailer that was made from game footage. The music was inspiring, it was well written, and it contained some epic lines (for example, "and when the truth finally dawned ... it dawned in fire!")

Now think about when ESO was released. They chose to do four live action trailers. They were pretty awesome but these trailers are one reason why I waited to buy the game until recently. Why?

Because what I saw was a company that was afraid to show me what its game looked like. Live action trailers - to me - are big warning that what's in the game isn't worth showing to the public.

(BTW, notice that the FALLOUT 4 trailers are made from gameplay footage, too.)

Oddly enough, if we are talking about the same trailer, those were not live action. They were not game footage, either.

Hmmm ... that's odd. I'm thinking about the trailers for ESO that were released periodically throughout the pre-release of the game, as well as the one that was release for ESOTU.

Those were not live action? (Where live action is defined as: "(in filmmaking) action involving real people or animals, as contrasted with animation or computer-generated effects."). I could have sworn the people in the trailers were ... alive.

If not, where did that skill go when it came to making the game??

Cadbury wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

I agree... I just hope it's not more of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYQLhqooh0E

I'll see your awkward live-action commercial and raise you an even worse one.

Gotta love those advertisers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OEw8qAoNT8

Those are both absolutely awful.

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

Advertising is truly a double-edge sword. Think about this:

When Skyrim was released, Bethesda did an awesome trailer that was made from game footage. The music was inspiring, it was well written, and it contained some epic lines (for example, "and when the truth finally dawned ... it dawned in fire!")

Now think about when ESO was released. They chose to do four live action trailers. They were pretty awesome but these trailers are one reason why I waited to buy the game until recently. Why?

Because what I saw was a company that was afraid to show me what its game looked like. Live action trailers - to me - are big warning that what's in the game isn't worth showing to the public.

(BTW, notice that the FALLOUT 4 trailers are made from gameplay footage, too.)

Oddly enough, if we are talking about the same trailer, those were not live action. They were not game footage, either.

Hmmm ... that's odd. I'm thinking about the trailers for ESO that were released periodically throughout the pre-release of the game, as well as the one that was release for ESOTU.

Those were not live action? (Where live action is defined as: "(in filmmaking) action involving real people or animals, as contrasted with animation or computer-generated effects."). I could have sworn the people in the trailers were ... alive.

If not, where did that skill go when it came to making the game??

Which trailers were you talking about?

These?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlFMSyIOk0

or these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV6Wg5YP8Js

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

Advertising is truly a double-edge sword. Think about this:

When Skyrim was released, Bethesda did an awesome trailer that was made from game footage. The music was inspiring, it was well written, and it contained some epic lines (for example, "and when the truth finally dawned ... it dawned in fire!")

Now think about when ESO was released. They chose to do four live action trailers. They were pretty awesome but these trailers are one reason why I waited to buy the game until recently. Why?

Because what I saw was a company that was afraid to show me what its game looked like. Live action trailers - to me - are big warning that what's in the game isn't worth showing to the public.

(BTW, notice that the FALLOUT 4 trailers are made from gameplay footage, too.)

Oddly enough, if we are talking about the same trailer, those were not live action. They were not game footage, either.

Hmmm ... that's odd. I'm thinking about the trailers for ESO that were released periodically throughout the pre-release of the game, as well as the one that was release for ESOTU.

Those were not live action? (Where live action is defined as: "(in filmmaking) action involving real people or animals, as contrasted with animation or computer-generated effects."). I could have sworn the people in the trailers were ... alive.

If not, where did that skill go when it came to making the game??

Which trailers were you talking about?

These?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NIlFMSyIOk0

or these?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sV6Wg5YP8Js

The first (... and I hope that's obvious ...)

Edit: I've never seen the second one until now.

Yea man.. those trailers are 100% Computer Generated. No live about 'em.

Also, ZOS didn't make them. They were made by an outside firm and as far as it's understood, there was very little communication between ZOS and that firm. That's why there's so much in the trailers that isn't in the game.

I agree... it was a bad decision to use those trailers. Talk about unrealistic expectations.

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

The real problem is too many haters of this game are out there spreading word that this game is not worth playing and are trying to deter as many as they can from getting it which is honestly not cool.

Elektrakosh wrote: »

They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO, he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

That's how bad he thought of it.

This guy should be fired for not doing his job properly. No game shop clerk should ever discourage sales of any game whatsoever. Just because he dislikes ESO does not mean it's a bad game...

Hold up first of all I have a Friend that's been a manager at Game Stop for like 5 years now we played with like 6 people the first week after a week he quit the game and said he would be back to check it out when it went free to play.

Now that was at launch he called it sure it's buy to play but still a year before hand it was called. He has also saved me from buying some crap games. His job is not to sell random games that he know are not worth it unless you have time invested in to it already.

It's to sell you a game that you will like and if you sell crap games after someone ask you about it one of two things will happen. One I don't trust your judgement and think twice about any games your tell me about, or I feel like you sold me a crap game after I asked you about it just to get a cheap sell and don't go back.

MuddledMuppet wrote: »

They should maybe do a completely free version, except level cap is 20, after that you need to buy

lvl 20 is pretty high i would max it lvl 15 (first area)

SneaK wrote: »

Those are both absolutely awful.

Agree. Looks so amateurish. If I imagine some cheap lawyer is doing TV adds then it certainly looks like the first vid.

I think ZOS is making the smart decision here to not go overboard with advertising right now. Not because the game is faulty (Id love for someone to point out an MMO at this point in its life cycle that was better off than ESO) but because the game is very linear right now in the way you approach leveling. And what I mean by that is you are forced to either play through the pre-established storylines for the faction you choose (which is the same story regardless of what type of character you have) with Silver and Gold as your follow up option, PvP your way up (which is a long ways to go) or grind through by killing mobs higher leveled than you.

Zones like Orsinium will change this. And with more zones like Orsinium we may see a time in the game not long into the future where we can actually create a new character and have a completely different leveling experience from our Mains and original alts.

Once we have a solid amount of alternate routes to level. Then this game will have a great deal of appeal to older players/new players and the advertising can commence.

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

lordrichter wrote: »

RizaHawkeye wrote: »

Advertising is truly a double-edge sword. Think about this:

When Skyrim was released, Bethesda did an awesome trailer that was made from game footage. The music was inspiring, it was well written, and it contained some epic lines (for example, "and when the truth finally dawned ... it dawned in fire!")

Now think about when ESO was released. They chose to do four live action trailers. They were pretty awesome but these trailers are one reason why I waited to buy the game until recently. Why?

Because what I saw was a company that was afraid to show me what its game looked like. Live action trailers - to me - are big warning that what's in the game isn't worth showing to the public.

(BTW, notice that the FALLOUT 4 trailers are made from gameplay footage, too.)

Oddly enough, if we are talking about the same trailer, those were not live action. They were not game footage, either.

Hmmm ... that's odd. I'm thinking about the trailers for ESO that were released periodically throughout the pre-release of the game, as well as the one that was release for ESOTU.

Those were not live action? (Where live action is defined as: "(in filmmaking) action involving real people or animals, as contrasted with animation or computer-generated effects."). I could have sworn the people in the trailers were ... alive.

If not, where did that skill go when it came to making the game??

They werent real. They were legit computer animated.

I think ESO would best be served with a "Refer a Friend" campaign. Offer some unique mounts, give people incentives to promote the game, share their success, enjoyment, and really just do word of mouth. A lot of people love the game, and it'd be a cheaper investment.



I mean, the black striped-tiger senche is advertised for ESO's Crown store, it wouldn't be too hard to convert it to a mount and make it something unique for a "Refer a Friend" campaign. The texture's already in there, and people'd flip for a chance to get it.

Mounts will ultimately be ESO's version of TF2 hats.

Gidorick wrote: »

I agree... I just hope it's not more of...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYQLhqooh0E

But... That advert was awesome and not cringeworthy in any way!

Asherons_Call wrote: »

Elektrakosh wrote: »

They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO, he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

That's how bad he thought of it.

I frequent a lot of game shops and have had a similar reaction from the shop kid every single time. Not some of the time... 100%. A couple of them said if you must get it, get it on PC

I don't know.. I've tried talking with them to let them know that it really is a beautiful game but in those circles negativity spreads like wildfire. Not sure what else zos can really do to fix the image.

I can say that personally I have never seen an ESO advertisement. Not in store, on TV, on websites, etc. given I don't really watch tv anymore

Mate, lets get real, if you work in a shop and get plenty of returns will you still recommend that product?