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[PvP Video] Etaniel And Fluff, 2vX & emperor PvP

  • LegendaryChef
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Why not Chocking Talons?

    Fluff already uses choking talons and it doesn't stack, but mostly it's so that I can do this :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejwxIq97Ho

    People complain so much about how dks can't escape but right now they can just fly away when the situation gets sticky AND it doesn't even stack.

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  • themdogesbite
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Why not Chocking Talons?

    Fluff already uses choking talons and it doesn't stack, but mostly it's so that I can do this :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejwxIq97Ho

    I see you have practised your.. retreating skills like a true frenchmen.. i expected nothing less!
    :]
  • _Chaos
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    Still think Magicka DK is damn near useless in solo/1vX against any competent players. I watched the first 5 minutes of that video and seen 1 templar (VR4), and like 3 sorcs that used shields...
    'Chaos
  • Cinbri
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    Can you link me your addon that used for damage numbers pls
  • Etaniel
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    Cinbri wrote: »
    Can you link me your addon that used for damage numbers pls

    It's FTC, but the version from 1.5, I don't know if you can still find it
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  • Cinbri
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Can you link me your addon that used for damage numbers pls

    It's FTC, but the version from 1.5, I don't know if you can still find it
    I was damn afraid you will say it :s
  • Maulkin
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Why not Chocking Talons?

    Fluff already uses choking talons and it doesn't stack, but mostly it's so that I can do this :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejwxIq97Ho

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  • Wollust
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Why not Chocking Talons?

    Fluff already uses choking talons and it doesn't stack, but mostly it's so that I can do this :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejwxIq97Ho

    Well.. We finally got some sort of mobility?
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  • Etaniel
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    Wollust wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Why not Chocking Talons?

    Fluff already uses choking talons and it doesn't stack, but mostly it's so that I can do this :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejwxIq97Ho

    Well.. We finally got some sort of mobility?

    I don't want mobility... Dks were never supposed to be mobile (magicka ones at least)
    I want my old cinder storm back ! Insta cast on my feet with miss chance while I'm inside it !
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  • Ishammael
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Wollust wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Why not Chocking Talons?

    Fluff already uses choking talons and it doesn't stack, but mostly it's so that I can do this :
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DejwxIq97Ho

    Well.. We finally got some sort of mobility?

    I don't want mobility... Dks were never supposed to be mobile (magicka ones at least)
    I want my old cinder storm back ! Insta cast on my feet with miss chance while I'm inside it !

    OMG want miss chance back.

    Also, it drives me INSANE everytime I have to target something w/ Eruption. Just cast it at my feet! DK should have zero reach.
  • Waseem
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    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever
  • Etaniel
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    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    Excuse me, how is the DK a good self healer please? The only usable heal is deep breath, which is only effective when you have 3 enemies around which already puts you at a disadvantage because you are taking 3 times the damage. Dragon blood is a joke now.

    Your 3rd advantage goes into the 1st advantage's category.
    It's as if I said nightblade are the best and only cloakers.
    Sorcs are the best and only streakers.
    Templars are the best and only jesus beamers.

    See where I'm going?
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  • Ishammael
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    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.
  • Waseem
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    1) DK tanks are exist and quite good.
    2) they do heal well
    3) damage reflection is no joke.. reflecting meteor, reflecting shards and stuns you etc.. this is quite good and adds survivability thats even better than self healing
    Edited by Waseem on October 14, 2015 6:56PM
  • pjwb16_ESO
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    nb is actually the best pve tank atm :D
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  • Ishammael
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    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    nb is actually the best pve tank atm :D

    I stand corrected. I know the least about NB class, especially for PvE
  • Etaniel
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    nb is actually the best pve tank atm :D

    I stand corrected. I know the least about NB class, especially for PvE

    NB is a strong class in general. But it's also the class most 12 year olds go for because they probably loved assassin'd creed you know, so that's why the worst players are usually nightblades, and they are the ones who complain the most on forums :)
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  • phillyproduct
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    nb is actually the best pve tank atm :D

    I stand corrected. I know the least about NB class, especially for PvE

    NB is a strong class in general. But it's also the class most 12 year olds go for because they probably loved assassin'd creed you know, so that's why the worst players are usually nightblades, and they are the ones who complain the most on forums :)

    You complained about dk not being strong but then say nb complain the most
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  • Etaniel
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    nb is actually the best pve tank atm :D

    I stand corrected. I know the least about NB class, especially for PvE

    NB is a strong class in general. But it's also the class most 12 year olds go for because they probably loved assassin'd creed you know, so that's why the worst players are usually nightblades, and they are the ones who complain the most on forums :)

    You complained about dk not being strong but then say nb complain the most

    Complain the most > means complains more than others > means that it is possible for people to complain less, and yet still complain.
    Too hard to understand?

    But if you don't believe me, look at all the NB qq threads since the launch of the game and compare them with the DK qq threads.
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    AR 41 DC DK

  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    nb is actually the best pve tank atm :D

    I stand corrected. I know the least about NB class, especially for PvE

    NB is a strong class in general. But it's also the class most 12 year olds go for because they probably loved assassin'd creed you know, so that's why the worst players are usually nightblades, and they are the ones who complain the most on forums :)

    You complained about dk not being strong but then say nb complain the most

    Complain the most > means complains more than others > means that it is possible for people to complain less, and yet still complain.
    Too hard to understand?

    But if you don't believe me, look at all the NB qq threads since the launch of the game and compare them with the DK qq threads.

    At launch a lot of nb abilities didn't work properly and DK's solo'd zergs. :p
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  • Etaniel
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    pjwb16_ESO wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Waseem wrote: »
    those buff dk are a joke. DK is the most tanky class, unless you want a class to be
    1) best tanker in PvP and PvE
    2) good self healer in PvP and PvE
    3) best and only damage reflecter in PvP and PvE
    oh wait.. these 3 already applies to DK
    lets add a 4th advantage.. DK to be the best DD.. then we see 95% of players are DKs and we all enjoy the game for 10 mins and quit forever

    1. Wrong -- In PvE: Templars tank great (and heal the whole group at once). Sorcs can shield-spam tank. NBs have a bit of a harder time, but its doable with Sap. In PvP "tank" is not a (generally) useful player.
    2. Wrong -- Try healing yourself with GDB in Cyrodiil.
    3. Damage reflector? What? When is this a metric? If you're referring to Dragon Scale, it only reflects 4 projectiles within 4 s. Hardly a game changer.

    If you want to compare PvE DPS, yes DK is still king. But nobody is asking for DK to have more damage.

    nb is actually the best pve tank atm :D

    I stand corrected. I know the least about NB class, especially for PvE

    NB is a strong class in general. But it's also the class most 12 year olds go for because they probably loved assassin'd creed you know, so that's why the worst players are usually nightblades, and they are the ones who complain the most on forums :)

    You complained about dk not being strong but then say nb complain the most

    Complain the most > means complains more than others > means that it is possible for people to complain less, and yet still complain.
    Too hard to understand?

    But if you don't believe me, look at all the NB qq threads since the launch of the game and compare them with the DK qq threads.

    At launch a lot of nb abilities didn't work properly and DK's solo'd zergs. :p

    vampires * soloed zergs with low ulti costs, sorcs had bats for 0 ulti. Any class playing vampire could do it. in 1.4 and 1.5 nb sap tanks were godlike, but dk was easier to master so most people had a fixation on dks
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  • revonine
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    That's good gameplay!

    Quick question though: WHY do people keep trying to use meteor on you? It's just so painful to watch xD
  • Maulkin
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    revonine wrote: »
    That's good gameplay!

    Quick question though: WHY do people keep trying to use meteor on you? It's just so painful to watch xD

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  • Etaniel
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    revonine wrote: »
    That's good gameplay!

    Quick question though: WHY do people keep trying to use meteor on you? It's just so painful to watch xD

    To give us more engage opportunities haha
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  • pjwb16_ESO
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Cinbri wrote: »
    Can you link me your addon that used for damage numbers pls

    It's FTC, but the version from 1.5, I don't know if you can still find it

    http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info28-FoundryTacticalCombat.html#other
    there you go, choose your FTC choose your bzgs, I prefer version 0.38a tbh
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  • Maulkin
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    But why not LUI Extended? It seems so much nicer to me all around.
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  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Good video :)
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  • IxSTALKERxI
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    Etaniel wrote: »

    vampires * soloed zergs with low ulti costs, sorcs had bats for 0 ulti. Any class playing vampire could do it. in 1.4 and 1.5 nb sap tanks were godlike, but dk was easier to master so most people had a fixation on dks

    Not including vamps :p
    Sap tanks were very tanky, but DK's had talons + healing debuff from standard so could do a lot more damage than a nb.
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  • Etaniel
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    Etaniel wrote: »

    vampires * soloed zergs with low ulti costs, sorcs had bats for 0 ulti. Any class playing vampire could do it. in 1.4 and 1.5 nb sap tanks were godlike, but dk was easier to master so most people had a fixation on dks

    Not including vamps :p
    Sap tanks were very tanky, but DK's had talons + healing debuff from standard so could do a lot more damage than a nb.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucmjldufa6U
    this video just shows how broken the game was at the time, so broen that class balance didn't matter imo.
    And even more the cause of QQ because 95% of players had no idea what was going on (just look at how lost the yellows are in that clip)
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  • r.jan_emailb16_ESO
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    Etaniel wrote: »
    Etaniel wrote: »

    vampires * soloed zergs with low ulti costs, sorcs had bats for 0 ulti. Any class playing vampire could do it. in 1.4 and 1.5 nb sap tanks were godlike, but dk was easier to master so most people had a fixation on dks

    Not including vamps :p
    Sap tanks were very tanky, but DK's had talons + healing debuff from standard so could do a lot more damage than a nb.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ucmjldufa6U
    this video just shows how broken the game was at the time, so broen that class balance didn't matter imo.
    And even more the cause of QQ because 95% of players had no idea what was going on (just look at how lost the yellows are in that clip)

    I remember it, this video was made to show ZOS you could get 0 ultimate cost for bats. After that, they nerfed all the cost reduction sets.
    Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
    playing for eXile


    I'm done, CU somewhere else.
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