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ESO NEEDS MORE ADVERTISING

Agalloch
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Yes , title says everything.ZOS must advertise their game more .Also ESO must have more promotions..and sales. Look how over-hyped is Guild Wars 2 in the last year. I wish ESO to regain his position in top 3 MMOS in the world.
  • Itoq
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    Guild Wars 2 isn't my cup of tea, but that game is a professionally ran A level game. It is just a whole different ball park.

    For more marketing to make sense, ZOS would first have to up the focus on fixing and polishing the game. It hasn't seemed like that is going to happen for quite some time.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Bashing & Slanderous Comments]
    Edited by ZOS_Brett on October 16, 2015 7:48AM
  • BlackEar
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    I believe ESO still has to fight to get its reputation back. The best way if by word of mouth.

    Other than that, I agree with more advertising.
    ZOS can't you talk to your publisher and ask for treat?
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  • SleepyTroll
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    They can start by using those wasted videos from Launch that they spent a fortune on.
  • Malmai
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    I believe ESO still has to fight to get its reputation back. The best way if by word of mouth.

    Other than that, I agree with more advertising.
    ZOS can't you talk to your publisher and ask for treat?

    Reputation is bad at the moment, my fellow players who started to play this game in early beta just logged and said good luck & have fun...
  • PinoZino
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    Yes , title says everything.ZOS must advertise their game more .Also ESO must have more promotions..and sales. Look how over-hyped is Guild Wars 2 in the last year. I wish ESO to regain his position in top 3 MMOS in the world.

    Maybe they are advertising, but since you don't belong to the target audience anymore (you already bought the game), they moved their advertising cannons to another battlefield. One you are not visiting.
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  • Elektrakosh
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    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO, he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.
    Edited by Elektrakosh on October 16, 2015 8:52AM
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  • Malmai
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    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO and he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    LOL, im bit worried lot of players will start playing Fo4 for few months...
  • Elektrakosh
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    Malmai wrote: »
    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO and he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    LOL, im bit worried lot of players will start playing Fo4 for few months...
    From what I've saw and the price of the Pip Boy collectors edition, there will be a lot of players who will move just because it looks and plays beautifully.

    The PB edition is too expensive but that is by far one of the best things I have saw.

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  • Danikat
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    GW2 is only advertising a lot recently because they're bringing out their first expansion in a week, and as part of the build up to that introduced a free trial version to try and persuade people who weren't sure it was worth even $10 when it was on sale to try the game. Shortly after the expansion is released it'll all die down again, until they have something else to promote.

    ESO actually did the same not long ago. There was a lot of promotion around the time it went buy-to-play and again around the console release. At least there was in Europe. I was seeing ads on TV, on buses and trains all around London, and then I went to Paris and they were on all the buses and trains there too.

    But that type of advertising is expensive and has a relatively short 'lifespan'. It's aimed at people who aren't interested enough in the type of product you're selling to seek out information on their own but might become interested if you can make it look exciting enough. That feeling will only last for a short time after seeing the adverts though, so it needs to be right around the time you want them to buy the product, and you can't just keep running them indefinitely because sooner or later they will become 'background noise' that no one really reads any more and then you'll be spending more on paying for advertising space than you make from it.

    IMO what ESO would benefit most from right now is detailed (and positive!) coverage of the IC and Orsinium DLC in the gaming media. That's kind of the opposite - it's targeting people who are already interested in MMOs/games in general. They almost certainly know ESO exists and have made an "informed" (with varying degrees of accuracy) decision not to buy it. But detailed coverage of new content could persuade them to change their minds by showing that the game has changed, and continues to change, and as a result whatever put them off may not be applicable any more. Or simply by showing them the game is still going and there is still a lot of interest in it, from a section of the media they choose to read and so presumably agree with. Maybe they didn't buy it before because they didn't have time or money or were too into another game, now their situation might be different and that kind of coverage could make ESO look like a really good choice.
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  • Cadbury
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    Malmai wrote: »
    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO and he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    LOL, im bit worried lot of players will start playing Fo4 for few months...
    From what I've saw and the price of the Pip Boy collectors edition, there will be a lot of players who will move just because it looks and plays beautifully.

    The PB edition is too expensive but that is by far one of the best things I have saw.

    Yeah, the hype is real. I know some non-gamers who saw footage of FO4 and are excited about that. I'm starting to think that this will blow the Skyrim hype out of the water.

    So, move over Fus Ro Dah and arrow-in-the-knee memes...
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  • Elektrakosh
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    Malmai wrote: »
    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO and he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    LOL, im bit worried lot of players will start playing Fo4 for few months...
    From what I've saw and the price of the Pip Boy collectors edition, there will be a lot of players who will move just because it looks and plays beautifully.

    The PB edition is too expensive but that is by far one of the best things I have saw.

    Yeah, the hype is real. I know some non-gamers who saw footage of FO4 and are excited about that. I'm starting to think that this will blow the Skyrim hype out of the water.

    So, move over Fus Ro Dah and arrow-in-the-knee memes...
    Indeed.

    FO4 memes are coming.

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  • UltimaJoe777
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    The real problem is too many haters of this game are out there spreading word that this game is not worth playing and are trying to deter as many as they can from getting it which is honestly not cool.
    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO, he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    This guy should be fired for not doing his job properly. No game shop clerk should ever discourage sales of any game whatsoever. Just because he dislikes ESO does not mean it's a bad game...
    Edited by UltimaJoe777 on October 16, 2015 11:09AM
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    Cadbury wrote: »
    So, move over Fus Ro Dah and arrow-in-the-knee memes...

    ... but I can keep my Todd Howard's fangirl-ism :-) Looks like it's not going to be outdated any time soon ;-)

  • Scyantific
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    You really want more people knowing about how broken this game is and how the staff can't fix the most irritating of errors (the in-combat bug) as well as making the dumbest design decisions ever (nerfing damage, nerfing stam regen, nerfing stealth resurrectios)?
  • mcilroy
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    BlackEar wrote: »
    I believe ESO still has to fight to get its reputation back. The best way if by word of mouth.

    Other than that, I agree with more advertising.
    ZOS can't you talk to your publisher and ask for treat?

    Could not agree more I have got 3 friends off FFXIV And on to ESO
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  • anitajoneb17_ESO
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    The real problem is too many haters of this game are out there spreading word that this game is not worth playing and are trying to deter as many as they can from getting it which is honestly not cool.
    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO, he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    This guy should be fired for not doing his job properly. No game shop clerk should ever discourage sales of any game whatsoever. Just because he dislikes ESO does not mean it's a bad game...

    Obviously you don't know how this works :-)
    In every business sector there's a portion of key people called "the prescribers". It's the people who are considered "experts" by other people who will seek advice from them. Like, if you need a medicine you'll ask your doctor or your mother or whoever you consider "expert" and whom you trust. If you need gardening advice you'll seek your brother or a professional gardener or the tools' shop next door, etc.
    Of course you wouldn't trust any of them if they were not independant (like, if they were paid or controlled by the potential suppliers of the good).

    In the case of videogames... if you're looking into spending time in a game but don't know yet which one, you will likely seek opinions from fellow gamers, IRL or in forums, from gaming magazines and from gaming shops. And these people are perfectly entitled to advise you against ESO if that's their opinion.

    In other words, the vendor's attitude is perfectly ok. ZOS could look into polishing its image a bit within the "prescribers", but still some of them will always disagree, that's part of them being independant and thus trustable.

    A consequence of this is.... instead of "advising" ZOS yourselves like you were all game publishers, one VERY EFFICIENT thing you could do to help the game would be to STOP BASHING IT with negative comments in this very forum, and STOP PREDICTING ITS DOWNFALL, because believe me, one hour of reading here is very likely to discourage 95% of the people who are looking for a new game and have a look at these forums. (The 5% remaining are the experienced gamers who know already that gaming forums are toxic).

  • kevlarto_ESO
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    For me I am ok with things, have to look at who the bad mouthing is coming from giving it a bad reputation, is it coming from someone's opinion of the game or are they talking the real issues of the game, kind of like reading a review of a product, 90% give it five stars and the ones that give it one star tried to do something with the item it was not intended to do.

    But once a company gets a bad reputation for what ever reason it is a hard hole to dig out of and most never do.
  • PinoZino
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    The real problem is too many haters of this game are out there spreading word that this game is not worth playing and are trying to deter as many as they can from getting it which is honestly not cool.

    There are not that many haters, only this forum and more particular the General section could give you the impression.
    I don't get these haters. Mostly they are crying about some personal issues, which are not valid for a significant share of the players. I’ll be even silent about a majority.

    They don't represent us, they represent a very small group of haters, who probably hate all and everything. If they weren't moaning about ZOS or ESO, they would moan about something else.

    Doesn't mean there's no valid critique and sure things may and could improve. But the game is pretty young, they have to find their position yet and I do have the impression they fix a lot issues fast.

    But again, the haters just want to see ZOS fixing their personal issues.

    They can also take a pill or face their demons.




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  • Egonieser
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    The real problem is too many haters of this game are out there spreading word that this game is not worth playing and are trying to deter as many as they can from getting it which is honestly not cool.
    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO, he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    This guy should be fired for not doing his job properly. No game shop clerk should ever discourage sales of any game whatsoever. Just because he dislikes ESO does not mean it's a bad game...

    Yeah and it's also his job to inform customers if a product is flawed or generally not good. He did good as he much rather give his honest "opinion" as a professional than deal with refunds and unhappy customers after. People much rather know what the game is like upfront than be mislead by "Buy it, it's great, real bargain and a real bang for your buck *it's *** really* Come on people, buy it while stocks last!".
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  • Elsonso
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    If you look at all of the games published by Bethesda Softworks, you will see that they do not spend a lot of money on advertising, especially after launch. ESO is no exception to this. Bethesda uses pre-release hype and after launch it is all about social media and word of mouth.

    For my part, I proselytize to solo gamers and casual gamers comfortable playing without a group. As far as group play goes, ESO with Friends is really best if the player already has Friends, but Guilds are the best way of making groups if that is not the case. I do not think that ESO is really suited for PVP. The Alliance War is attractive, but Imperial City is very specific and very niche, in my opinion, and it suffered under the transition to a paid DLC. Imperial City needed to expand upon the PVP objectives in Cyrodiil and bring new reason to participate in Cyrodiil. Instead, it does not really fit in Cyrodiil and was designed to be its own destination. If you think about it, ZOS could have used a faux Imperial City in Coldharbour instead of the one in Cyrodiil and it would not greatly change the DLC. So, no, I do not even attempt to sell anyone on ESO because of PVP. Frankly, I am surprised at the tenacious nature of those who still do PVP in this game. Bravo!
    Edited by Elsonso on October 16, 2015 12:26PM
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  • Sausage
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    If we make it to the ES6 we should do just fine, Im sure ES6 is gonna be another start for ESO too, but its probably like 2019, 2018 Winter earliest. F2P Cyrodil could be nice PR-stunt in the meanwhile, if they do it right, theres tons of people who would play Cyrodil nothing else, but I'd imagine Cyrodil needs more work, like Castles overhaul, why not some landscape improvements too, maybe remove most PVE content as well, just leave the villages.
    Edited by Sausage on October 16, 2015 1:18PM
  • Scyantific
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    The real problem is too many haters of this game are out there spreading word that this game is not worth playing and are trying to deter as many as they can from getting it which is honestly not cool.
    They should fix the bugs first, then advertise.

    I went to a game shop and enquired about ESO, he shook his head and told me to wait for Fallout 4.

    That's how bad he thought of it.

    This guy should be fired for not doing his job properly. No game shop clerk should ever discourage sales of any game whatsoever. Just because he dislikes ESO does not mean it's a bad game...

    Except what if he does have a legitimate complaint about the game that everyone else does? It's not just their job to push sales on unsuspecting suckers, it's their job to provide customers with enough information to make a justified and informed decision in making a purchase. I wouldn't feel right at all if I knew a game was horrible and some guy ended up buying it without at least putting in a word that "hey this game's not as good as people are making it out to be because 'x'." If they go through with said purchase after that point that's on them.
    PinoZino wrote: »
    The real problem is too many haters of this game are out there spreading word that this game is not worth playing and are trying to deter as many as they can from getting it which is honestly not cool.

    There are not that many haters, only this forum and more particular the General section could give you the impression.
    I don't get these haters. Mostly they are crying about some personal issues, which are not valid for a significant share of the players. I’ll be even silent about a majority.

    They don't represent us, they represent a very small group of haters, who probably hate all and everything. If they weren't moaning about ZOS or ESO, they would moan about something else.

    Doesn't mean there's no valid critique and sure things may and could improve. But the game is pretty young, they have to find their position yet and I do have the impression they fix a lot issues fast.

    But again, the haters just want to see ZOS fixing their personal issues.

    They can also take a pill or face their demons.



    You say personal issues, yet I don't think you have any clue what "personal" means.

    Crashes, long loading times, persistent bugs that have been in since launch, clear and present balance issues that have never been addressed, "fixes" to things that were never broken in the first place, poor implementation of systems that the developers themselves have no idea about, and broken promises that were made over and over again.

    These are the majority of the issues people are complaining about on the forums, and I'm pretty sure that these are not "personal" since they potentially affect the entire user base.

    Also, just because people aren't showering ZOS' with flowers and kisses and brown-nosing doesn't make them haters, especially if they have actual, legitimate complaints about issues.
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    Yeh I see gw2 everywhere.
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  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Yes , title says everything.ZOS must advertise their game more .Also ESO must have more promotions..and sales. Look how over-hyped is Guild Wars 2 in the last year. I wish ESO to regain his position in top 3 MMOS in the world.

    Honestly this game was hugely advertised and that didn't work out because when you advertise products, consumers have product expectations. ZOS has chosen labels that while correct are intentionally lacking design features that this genre expects.

    As such the advertising of this would not help but instead hurt.

    They need to re-brand the product as an online RPG game (not an MMO) and more importantly spend 6 months fixing and finishing base game issues and ideas that have now been spread out over 1.5 years.

    That's my opinion...maybe I'm wrong
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  • Marrtha
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    First they need something to advertise?

    A lovely positive community, fixed bugs and constant developing, connecting with players, reducing the grindfest.
    It is really hard to fix ESO's rep after the disappointing launch and due to constant tries and failing at fixing and balancing some stuff out (champion system anyone? IC then?), people still quit while flipping tables.
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  • P3ZZL3
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    Well, I've just downloaded the game mentioned by Op. It was free. Downloaded quickly. Realised I put it on the wrong drive and copied over fine to the right one. Loaded in an instant. The majority of our Guild here has done the same and has decided to take a break for a while. I suspect we are not alone :|
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  • SneaK
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    I agree. ZOS marketing team should be pushing a little harder to bring in more players/sales. It's a great game.
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    They should maybe do a completely free version, except level cap is 20, after that you need to buy
  • Elsonso
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    P3ZZL3 wrote: »
    Well, I've just downloaded the game mentioned by Op. It was free. Downloaded quickly. Realised I put it on the wrong drive and copied over fine to the right one. Loaded in an instant. The majority of our Guild here has done the same and has decided to take a break for a while. I suspect we are not alone :|

    I tried to play that game for a while back in January/February and simply could not do it. I still have it installed, but I have not fired it up in months. I would go back to World of Warcraft first.
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  • SeptimusDova
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    You get what you earn in this word be it income or reputation. Want to improve it then do more.
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