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Shield Breaker - But Wait, There's More!
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Okay so we got Shield Breaker, now we need a Stealth-Breaker, Reflect-Breaker, and a Heal-Breaker... I'm thinking like...
Stealth Breaker - Deals 2,000 Unresistable damage to all targets in a 20m radius of you that are stealthed or cloaked.
Reflect Breaker - Deals 2,000 Unresistable damage to anyone that uses Reflective Scales or Defensive Posture.
Heal Breaker - Deals 2,000 Unresistable damage to anyone that heals in a 20m radius of you.
Sounds fair right? I tried not to make them too OP but we gotta balance it you know?
Alright seriously though, you can remove Shield Breaker from the game now ZoS, and this is coming from someone who doesn't even play a Sorcerer, the set is asinine on so many levels......
Inb4 "But you give up a 5 set bonus!"
And gain weapon damage recovery and max stamina... Omg such a trade off!
Edited by Yonkit on October 15, 2015 2:05PM Stealth Breaker - Deals 2,000 Unresistable damage to all targets in a 20m radius of you that are stealthed or cloaked.
Reflect Breaker - Deals 2,000 Unresistable damage to anyone that uses Reflective Scales or Defensive Posture.
Heal Breaker - Deals 2,000 Unresistable damage to anyone that heals in a 20m radius of you.
Sounds fair right? I tried not to make them too OP but we gotta balance it you know?
Alright seriously though, you can remove Shield Breaker from the game now ZoS, and this is coming from someone who doesn't even play a Sorcerer, the set is asinine on so many levels......
Inb4 "But you give up a 5 set bonus!"
And gain weapon damage recovery and max stamina... Omg such a trade off!
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Do I get all my tv stones back? I spent a lot of time as a lvl 39 soloing IC for this set. Suffice it to say I'd be pretty annoyed if they removed or nerfed it without reimbursing me in some way.Alright seriously though, you can remove Shield Breaker from the game now ZoS, and this is coming from someone who doesn't even play a Sorcerer, the set is asinine on so many levels......
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LegendaryChef✭✭✭✭✭Need a love button somewhere
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✭✭There are already multiple cloak breakers
Scalesbreaker - Any nonprojectile
Healbreaker - Befoul / defile
BUT I GIVE UP A 5 PIECE BONUS!!! EU | PC4 -
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Do I get all my tv stones back? I spent a lot of time as a lvl 39 soloing IC for this set. Suffice it to say I'd be pretty annoyed if they removed or nerfed it without reimbursing me in some way.Alright seriously though, you can remove Shield Breaker from the game now ZoS, and this is coming from someone who doesn't even play a Sorcerer, the set is asinine on so many levels......
No you don't, because you bought a crap set that identifies it's wearer as a potato and a baddie. But if it makes you happy I'll personally reimburse you with a slap to the face and 10k gold.Edited by Yonkit on October 15, 2015 2:14PMHas an Alter Ego in the form of a very large quadrupedal black & white Bear.12 -
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Healing - healing debuff
Reflect - dont use projectiles
Just ...... L2P?
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Yonkit✭✭✭✭✭Master_Kas wrote: »There are already multiple cloak breakers
Scalesbreaker - Any nonprojectile
Healbreaker - Befoul / defile
BUT I GIVE UP A 5 PIECE BONUS!!! Has an Alter Ego in the form of a very large quadrupedal black & white Bear.1 -
Yonkit✭✭✭✭✭LegendaryChef wrote: »Need a love button somewhere
@LegendaryChef I'm just tired of running into these plebeians on my DK, legitimately all they do is sit back at max bow range and poke you with light attacks so the moment you cast a shield you're taking stupid amounts of damage. At least on NA, not sure how it is on EU
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Yonkit✭✭✭✭✭The set is just as stupid as shieldstacking/spamming is. Balance is restored.
Unless the sorcerer is an emp you've been able to get past Sorc shields for a very long time now, adding in a broken set that actually is broken in multiple respects to do this for is just catering to bad players.
Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.Has an Alter Ego in the form of a very large quadrupedal black & white Bear.9 -
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Unfortunately SB was the next best thing on BWB until I have enough traits for Hundings. I'll be switching to that long term for sure. Why? Because it works on everything, not just people with shields. SB is a slight disadvantage in that sense - you're not always going to get those benefits with 5 pieces, but with Hundings, you will.No you don't, because you bought a crap set that identifies it's wearer as a potato and a baddie. But if it makes you happy I'll personally reimburse you with a slap to the face and 10k gold.
You have to understand, battle levelled sorcs have a decent amount of health in my campaign, making them tanky, spell flinging machines. I admit though, it will be interesting to see how SB plays out after the update to battle levelling in the Orsinium update, huehue.
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✭LegendaryChef wrote: »Need a love button somewhere
@LegendaryChef I'm just tired of running into these plebeians on my DK, legitimately all they do is sit back at max bow range and poke you with light attacks so the moment you cast a shield you're taking stupid amounts of damage. At least on NA, not sure how it is on EU
So this is another one of your tirades against bow uses. Shucks. It was starting to look like a real entertaining thread there for a while.
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Yonkit✭✭✭✭✭LegendaryChef wrote: »Need a love button somewhere
@LegendaryChef I'm just tired of running into these plebeians on my DK, legitimately all they do is sit back at max bow range and poke you with light attacks so the moment you cast a shield you're taking stupid amounts of damage. At least on NA, not sure how it is on EU
So this is another one of your tirades against bow uses. Shucks. It was starting to look like a real entertaining thread there for a while.
Oh quiet you. I don't have any issues with bows this patch, they can't do anything aside from poke you with 5k snipes.Has an Alter Ego in the form of a very large quadrupedal black & white Bear.0 -
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Annulment acts like a shield. Even if it's against spells, it's still a shield. So, as Shield Breaker procs against people with shields, regardless of what type of damage is received, this works as intended.Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
So report a bug. Simple.Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.Edited by Alucardo on October 15, 2015 2:27PM2 -
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✭The set is just as stupid as shieldstacking/spamming is. Balance is restored.
Unless the sorcerer is an emp you've been able to get past Sorc shields for a very long time now, adding in a broken set that actually is broken in multiple respects to do this for is just catering to bad players.
Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
Doe anyone have proof of this I haven't seen or heard of this happening other then in that one thread which was inconclusive since it seems his shield was done.0 -
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✭The set is just as stupid as shieldstacking/spamming is. Balance is restored.
Unless the sorcerer is an emp you've been able to get past Sorc shields for a very long time now, adding in a broken set that actually is broken in multiple respects to do this for is just catering to bad players.
Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
Doe anyone have proof of this I haven't seen or heard of this happening other then in that one thread which was inconclusive since it seems his shield was done.
Yonkit and his friends are really quite good at extensive testing especially if it involves broken mechanics or exploits. If he says Shield Breaker does all those things then there's a better than 90% likelihood that they do.
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LegendaryChef✭✭✭✭✭The set is just as stupid as shieldstacking/spamming is. Balance is restored.
Unless the sorcerer is an emp you've been able to get past Sorc shields for a very long time now, adding in a broken set that actually is broken in multiple respects to do this for is just catering to bad players.
Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
Doe anyone have proof of this I haven't seen or heard of this happening other then in that one thread which was inconclusive since it seems his shield was done.
I have tested it now 3 times and it works but saying as you weren't satisfied with my last picture I will do it AGAIN just for you, trust me, it goes through the shield 100%.
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People other than himself have complained about the camo hunter thing, and if it's true, then it's obviously a bug and needs to be rectified. As far as I'm concerned Annulment is still a shield as it absorbs damage, so this is working as it should.
Doe anyone have proof of this I haven't seen or heard of this happening other then in that one thread which was inconclusive since it seems his shield was done.
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Yonkit✭✭✭✭✭The set is just as stupid as shieldstacking/spamming is. Balance is restored.
Unless the sorcerer is an emp you've been able to get past Sorc shields for a very long time now, adding in a broken set that actually is broken in multiple respects to do this for is just catering to bad players.
Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
Doe anyone have proof of this I haven't seen or heard of this happening other then in that one thread which was inconclusive since it seems his shield was done.
Yonkit and his friends are really quite good at extensive testing especially if it involves broken mechanics or exploits. If he says Shield Breaker does all those things then there's a better than 90% likelihood that they do. Has an Alter Ego in the form of a very large quadrupedal black & white Bear.0 -
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Annulment acts like a shield. Even if it's against spells, it's still a shield. So, as Shield Breaker procs against people with shields, regardless of what type of damage is received, this works as intended.Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
So report a bug. Simple.Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
@Alucard0134 Annulment is a magical shield and if Shield Breaker wants to proc on it then that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that it's ******* mental as all hell. The set needs to be removed period. Or heavily changed.
It's SHIELD breaker, not HEALTH breaker, make it do increased damage to shields not negate shields entirely.Has an Alter Ego in the form of a very large quadrupedal black & white Bear.0 -
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✭✭✭✭Even though this is just aa sarcastic qq thread, I would not have an issue with any of those sets. Who would dedicate a whole 5 piece to killing healers and dks. It is perfectly easy enough through rapid application of major defile, roots, and various other things. DKs are so bad right now that I would'nt wear even a two piece set to do extra damage to them. Shield breaker is only popular because there are few other ways to kill a decent Sorc.Edited by timidobserver on October 15, 2015 2:48PMV16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
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✭Here is a thought. Don't cast a shield. Spend more pts in health. The set is single target, and only works with light and heavy attacks. Rethink your build if this is a problem.4 -
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Annulment acts like a shield. Even if it's against spells, it's still a shield. So, as Shield Breaker procs against people with shields, regardless of what type of damage is received, this works as intended.Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
So report a bug. Simple.Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
@Alucard0134 Annulment is a magical shield and if Shield Breaker wants to proc on it then that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that it's ******* mental as all hell. The set needs to be removed period. Or heavily changed.
It's SHIELD breaker, not HEALTH breaker, make it do increased damage to shields not negate shields entirely.
They can't do that, it would be too close to having crit work against shields [sic]Minno - DC - Forum-plar Extraordinaire
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Its not that I don't trust you but can you show a video with it please.Like I mentioned it looked like your shields were taken down by the evil hunter Crit.Thank you for doing it again.LegendaryChef wrote: »The set is just as stupid as shieldstacking/spamming is. Balance is restored.
Unless the sorcerer is an emp you've been able to get past Sorc shields for a very long time now, adding in a broken set that actually is broken in multiple respects to do this for is just catering to bad players.
Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
Doe anyone have proof of this I haven't seen or heard of this happening other then in that one thread which was inconclusive since it seems his shield was done.
I have tested it now 3 times and it works but saying as you weren't satisfied with my last picture I will do it AGAIN just for you, trust me, it goes through the shield 100%.0 -
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Annulment acts like a shield. Even if it's against spells, it's still a shield. So, as Shield Breaker procs against people with shields, regardless of what type of damage is received, this works as intended.Shield breaker works on annulment, annulment does not protect from physical attacks. = Broken set
So report a bug. Simple.Shield breaker can proc Camo Hunter THROUGH your shields and directly onto your health. = Broken set.
@Alucard0134 Annulment is a magical shield and if Shield Breaker wants to proc on it then that's fine, but it doesn't change the fact that it's ******* mental as all hell. The set needs to be removed period. Or heavily changed.
It's SHIELD breaker, not HEALTH breaker, make it do increased damage to shields not negate shields entirely.
They can't do that, it would be too close to having crit work against shields [sic]
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Yonkit✭✭✭✭✭Here is a thought. Don't cast a shield. Spend more pts in health. The set is single target, and only works with light and heavy attacks. Rethink your build if this is a problem.
Oh it isn't a problem it's just stupid and caters to bad players such as yourself and anyone who defends the existence of such a set.
If you had basic reading comprehension you would've realized I'm not a sorcerer, I don't run around with 15-20k health like most sorcerers do. That's what... ten light attacks? With a weighted bow? I can get that off in probably less than 5 seconds... So that's 5 seconds to kill someone with 20k health and a shield if they don't heal, or can't heal because they're being focused by other people etc etc.
Alone this set isn't a problem, it's a joke, it's when you have armies of bads using it at the back line.
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Valindor Magnus✭✭✭"Here is a thought. Don't cast a shield. Spend more pts in health. The set is single target, and only works with light and heavy attacks. Rethink your build if this is a problem"
I would love to stack more into health as a sorc but here is the problem. All other classes have very good forms of healing built into their class skills, Sorcs would either have to spec into a worthless pet with cast time that gives a terrible heal or rely on on getting huge crits and often crits for any decent heals, also our passive "blood magic" is garbage. So let's say I spec into all possible heals I have as a sorc and nab a couple or maybe even one from the resto line, that would mean I would give up at least a full bar for heals that are nowhere near as effective as heals from other classes. Can we please move on from this argument that this is a l2p issue for Sorcs. Experienced well played and vey good Sorcs are on the forums very clearly explaining how ridiculous this set is. Even ppl who aren't Sorcs, like OP, are saying it's stupid. And honestly any sorc that's using annulment or any morph of it against a stam build using SB is doing it wrong so when your fighting a decent sorc with SB that sorc is not shield stacking he using using his ONE class shield and maybe healing ward when low health. But with light attacks in between each execute there is no way healing ward is gonna save a sorc in execute range against this set. Can we just stop arguing about this being l2p or a build issue. Sorcs play they way they do because that's how their class is built.Vehemence6
