A Simple XP Calculator for the upcoming Patch 2.2 CP Cap

MisterBigglesworth
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UPDATE 10/12/2015 - using new formula given to us by the devs today
((TotalPoints / (Cap ^ 0.995)) + 0.085) * 400000


Here's a tool I made; maybe some of you will find it useful.
You type in your current Champion Rank. This tells you 2 things:
  • How much XP you need to reach Champion Rank 501 under the current system of 400,000xp per rank
  • How much XP you need to reach Champion Rank 501 using the new formula in Patch 2.2
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Preview:
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Edited by MisterBigglesworth on October 13, 2015 5:06AM
Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.
  • SirDopey
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    hmmm... so I'll need to find an extra 12millon XP (assuming I earn none between now and then which is extremely unlikely), doesn't sound great first up but if that's the price we have to pay for a more balanced system then I'm happy to run with it. The people I'm most worried about at the moment are the guys/gals playing ESO for the first time or coming back from 6 months off, I think this will go a long way to making the power gap seem a lot less daunting for them....
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  • Vezuls
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    So I need an extra 14 million xp (I will have 300 by patch) to get to the cap. Soooo how is this a catch up mechanic ZOS? @ZOS_GinaBruno
  • gen_reynard2050
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    dead-onion-head-emoticon.gif?1292862498 94,025,161 XP to reach 501..... how many days do i need to reach tat 501... huehueheu.
    Edited by gen_reynard2050 on October 12, 2015 11:40AM
    "What the lion cannot manage to do, the fox can".
  • Malmai
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    Vezuls wrote: »
    So I need an extra 14 million xp (I will have 300 by patch) to get to the cap. Soooo how is this a catch up mechanic ZOS? @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Talking about this for about week people starting noticing just now...

    So for easier understanding from 338 CP - 501 CP you need full 99 VR Ranks in other words 6 New alts from 0 to Hero (VR16)


    XP required 338-501 new system: 79,790,187 XP.

    XP required 338-501 old system: 65,200,000 XP.


    Good luck to those who have less than 338 CP now...

    Edited by Malmai on October 12, 2015 11:15AM
  • Rex-Umbra
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    I have 130 CP and it will be much faster for me to get the cap in the new system according to the calculator.
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  • Rex-Umbra
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    Remember the average player has like 40 CP or something so will benefit them the most.
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  • notimetocare
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Remember the average player has like 40 CP or something so will benefit them the most.

    I dont see how the average is 40 unless they are counting people that quit and aren't coming back....
  • notimetocare
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    Long time/higher CP player get shafted while the lazy newbs get it easier? Yay...
  • Rex-Umbra
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    Rich posted the average which only includes active players (online last thirty days who have at least one character veteran rank one or above) Its on these forums somewhere also new veteran players will get to the cap faster as it requires 3/4 as much xp total to get to the cap. This will help new players feel more accomplishment and help them keep going.
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  • angelyn
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    Great calculator OP.I'd be interested in seeing the calculator for a higher CP amount, since I know it will take me less to get to 500 (at my measly 93) but I suspect it will take far more xp overall, for me to reach 1000, than anyone who has reached that number before ZOS started making amendments
    Edited by angelyn on October 12, 2015 12:01PM
  • gen_reynard2050
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    long story short... the new CP system is rewarding for those player who hits 501cp and above... why? becoz they already had it before the patch... so ppl who dont hv... take ur time to grind the cp..
    "What the lion cannot manage to do, the fox can".
  • Alucardo
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    I dont see how the average is 40 unless they are counting people that quit and aren't coming back....
    Or people who weren't here from beta and spend all their time pvping instead of grinding zombies.
  • xMovingTarget
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    Thanks for making me work harder ZoS ... Under the new system I need 14.4 million XP more.. bollocks.. Catch-Up at it´s finest. lol. I call this new system Fall-Back System.

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    Edited by xMovingTarget on October 12, 2015 12:31PM
  • iTzStevey
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    I'll need 135,707,299 exp to reach the cap....F.M.L....
  • hedna123b14_ESO
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Remember the average player has like 40 CP or something so will benefit them the most.

    I dont see how the average is 40 unless they are counting people that quit and aren't coming back....

    For some reason they decided it was a good idea to include everyone who has at least one vet1 toon in their average....it should have been everyone with a v14 or above....
  • MisterBigglesworth
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    Everyone take a moment to see how the Patch 2.2 changes will affect your ability to catch up. Let ZOS know how you feel about the changes. Thanks.
    Edited by MisterBigglesworth on October 12, 2015 11:32PM
    Really we do it without like, the musical instruments. This is the only musical: the mouth. And hopefully the brain attached to the mouth. Right? The brain, more important than the mouth, is the brain. The brain is much more important.
  • SleepyTroll
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    I'll need 6 more million than before, I should not play 12 days before to save to enlightenment.
  • k2blader
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    @MisterBigglesworth

    Really nice job, deserves many back to the tops!

    So many people are probably unaware of the discrepancy with proposed catch up mechanic that at from 348 CPs on YOU WILL NEED MORE THAN 400k XP to gain the next CP. Frankly it's incredibly stupid and I'm not sure why Zeni would design it that way.
    Edited by k2blader on October 12, 2015 11:58PM
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  • jcaceresw
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    long story short... the new CP system is rewarding for those player who hits 501cp and above... why? becoz they already had it before the patch... so ppl who dont hv... take ur time to grind the cp..

    I believe ZOS should give CP based on the new system. Say you have 1000 CP right now, when patch is live the recalculation based on the formula will now made them to have 800 CP aproximately.
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    Remember the average player has like 40 CP or something so will benefit them the most.

    I dont see how the average is 40 unless they are counting people that quit and aren't coming back....

    For some reason they decided it was a good idea to include everyone who has at least one vet1 toon in their average....it should have been everyone with a v14 or above....

    That's the definition of an average as it begins with Vet 1
    If they didn't include them all, it's no longer an average
    Edited by NewBlacksmurf on October 13, 2015 12:23AM
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    ~<{[50]}>~ looks better than *501
  • BaldusMageezack
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    Does everyone understand why you don't ask for things to be changed now? All you will get is nerf nerf nerf
  • hammayolettuce
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    I will need an extra 13m XP .. Thanks ZoS for a wonderful job. I love grinding said no one ever.
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  • Powtreeman
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    Yeah this is going to suck. I have I think 80ish. 27 in each. Not going to math it out.
  • notimetocare
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    OP, what programming language did you make this in?
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    k2blader wrote: »
    @MisterBigglesworth

    Really nice job, deserves many back to the tops!

    So many people are probably unaware of the discrepancy with proposed catch up mechanic that at from 348 CPs on YOU WILL NEED MORE THAN 400k XP to gain the next CP. Frankly it's incredibly stupid and I'm not sure why Zeni would design it that way.

    That was a Awesome Job, now I have a good question ?

    Can you make one that shows how much XP we will need per CP past 501, like in order to reach 600 cp how much will it cost from 502 cp on and such...

    PS- I know, us people, we always want more... LOL
    Edited by whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO on October 13, 2015 2:50AM
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  • Cazzy
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    k2blader wrote: »
    @MisterBigglesworth

    Really nice job, deserves many back to the tops!

    So many people are probably unaware of the discrepancy with proposed catch up mechanic that at from 348 CPs on YOU WILL NEED MORE THAN 400k XP to gain the next CP. Frankly it's incredibly stupid and I'm not sure why Zeni would design it that way.

    That was a Awesome Job, now I have a good question ?

    Can you make one that shows how much XP we will need per CP past 501, like in order to reach 600 cp how much will it cost from 501 cp on and such...

    PS- I know, us people, we always want more... LOL

    But CP will be capped at 501 after the patch :P
  • whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO
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    Cazzy wrote: »
    k2blader wrote: »
    @MisterBigglesworth

    Really nice job, deserves many back to the tops!

    So many people are probably unaware of the discrepancy with proposed catch up mechanic that at from 348 CPs on YOU WILL NEED MORE THAN 400k XP to gain the next CP. Frankly it's incredibly stupid and I'm not sure why Zeni would design it that way.

    That was a Awesome Job, now I have a good question ?

    Can you make one that shows how much XP we will need per CP past 501, like in order to reach 600 cp how much will it cost from 501 cp on and such...

    PS- I know, us people, we always want more... LOL

    But CP will be capped at 501 after the patch :P

    I know, but you know that people are gonna play and grind anyway..
    Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NA
    VR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3409 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.
  • silky_soft
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    Hey everyone,
    Thanks for all the feedback so far. We love reading your enthusiasm on this new system. Our goal is to make it as polished and awesome as possible before releasing to the live servers. The three main changes we’re looking to make are:
    • Reducing the speed at which XP per point accelerates. Our data shows there is a good number of people in the 300 champion point range and we didn’t want them to feel like they had to grind all the way to 501 before the system releases. This now means players are gaining champion points faster than the old value up until their 445th point.
    • Slightly increasing base XP. This helps normalize the curve a bit so players are spending a little more time in the beginning of the curve and less time at the end of the curve.
    • Reducing the XP penalty for players past cap. We want dedicated players to still be able to make meaningful progress.

    The formula would be adjusted in the following way to meet these goals:
    • ((TotalPoints / (Cap ^ 0.995)) + 0.085) * 400000, where Total Points is how many CP points you’ve earned.
    • If you exceed the cap, the XP required is calculated given the above formula and then multiplied by 1.5.
    • For the first Champion Point (going from 0 Champion Points to 1 Champion Point) 34000 XP is required.
    This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.
  • silky_soft
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    It used to be like this. I haven't updated it to new formula

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    This recent update has made me sad. Sad for the game. Sad for the community. Sad to pay whatever it is now. I want the previous eso back.
  • nimander99
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    Dude wtf... it's going to be MORE exp for me to hit cap after the patch... this new CP system pisses me off.

    Great tool though :D
    Edited by nimander99 on October 13, 2015 4:21AM
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