After Orsinium.

Stranglehands · October 2015

dwemer_paleologist wrote: »

Gidorick wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

Yea... but is Dark Brotherhood or Thieves Guild going to be new zones or are they going to be layered undernearth already released content?

the dark brotherhood belongs to Vvardenfell, morrowind. Mournhold.
they have sanctuaries located in those areas.

The dark brotherhood don't have any sanctuaries in Vvardenfell. In the 2nd era Vvardenfell is under the control of the tribunal temple and they don't allow any n'wah to set foot there, and definitely not a rival assassin's guild to the morag tong. The dark brotherhood appear in the mournhold sewers in Tribunal but they're hiding out down there, not operating in the open.

altemriel · October 2015

I have read somewhere, that they are planning to release a dlc every quarter. so I hope it would be true.

I vote for Murkmire!!

it just looks awesome

altemriel · October 2015

Scyantific wrote: »

Spellcrafting is dead in the water. The guy who was heading that particular boat left the studio a while back.

noooooooooo, I was so excited about this part

but hopefully they would assign it to some other guy! It was a too awesome idea to drop it!

Jaronking · October 2015

Am starting to think the Dark brotherhood expansion might be released January with a PTS released in December. They been working on the Dark Brotherhood and thieves Guild since launch maybe a little bit before launch.If imperial City and orc town can be ready a month afterwards release. Am starting thibk Dark brotherhood and Thieves Guild will be released sooner then everyone thinks.

terrordactyl1971 · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

IC and Orsinium took them like 1.5 year, I expect no major content updates in at least 1 year after Orsinium but we indeed get something smaller like said above. Spell Crafting cant be that far I suppose, that sounds like fun to mess around and maybe Justice Update 2.

I don't think it works like that. They may have 3 or 4 in development at the same time, all finishing months apart. If you are making 4 DLC's in parallel, even if they take between 6-12 months each to make then you can see a steady flow of released DLC on a quarterly basis.

They've committed to quarterly DLC - so something every 3 months. Orsinium is Nov 2nd, so something else should turn up early Feb

Sausage · October 2015

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

IC and Orsinium took them like 1.5 year, I expect no major content updates in at least 1 year after Orsinium but we indeed get something smaller like said above. Spell Crafting cant be that far I suppose, that sounds like fun to mess around and maybe Justice Update 2.

I don't think it works like that. They may have 3 or 4 in development at the same time, all finishing months apart. If you are making 4 DLC's in parallel, even if they take between 6-12 months each to make then you can see a steady flow of released DLC on a quarterly basis.

They've committed to quarterly DLC - so something every 3 months. Orsinium is Nov 2nd, so something else should turn up early Feb

Maybe but they have done so much already. Craglorn, Upper Craglorn, CP system, Justice System, IC and now Orsinium. Probably something what I miss too. Im fine if they want to keep adding content, but somewhere has to go the line.

altemriel · October 2015

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Maybe but they have done so much already. Craglorn, Upper Craglorn, CP system, Justice System, IC and now Orsinium. Probably something what I miss too. Im fine if they want to keep adding content, but somewhere has to go the line. [/quote]

wait, what do you mean with "somewhere has to go the line? (maybe because I am not EN native, I do not understand the meaning of the expression). I think the best way for ZOS would be to milk it as long it gets. To add content forever. Nirn is huge, so they can do it like 10 years + and still there would be more to add.

Shadesofkin · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

terrordactyl1971 wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

IC and Orsinium took them like 1.5 year, I expect no major content updates in at least 1 year after Orsinium but we indeed get something smaller like said above. Spell Crafting cant be that far I suppose, that sounds like fun to mess around and maybe Justice Update 2.

I don't think it works like that. They may have 3 or 4 in development at the same time, all finishing months apart. If you are making 4 DLC's in parallel, even if they take between 6-12 months each to make then you can see a steady flow of released DLC on a quarterly basis.

They've committed to quarterly DLC - so something every 3 months. Orsinium is Nov 2nd, so something else should turn up early Feb

Maybe but they have done so much already. Craglorn, Upper Craglorn, CP system, Justice System, IC and now Orsinium. Probably something what I miss too. Im fine if they want to keep adding content, but somewhere has to go the line.

At this point you cannot count Craglorn or Upper Craglorn, those were developed for the Console alongside the rest of the Base Game (which is what it is now considered).

While I do not expect TG and DB to come out at the same time, I do expect that one or the other will be released *before* the end of the 1st Quarter next year as part of their commitment to their promise.

Personally I would prefer Murkmire to release before DB or TG, but that is because I would like to see new trials and new dungeons as soon as possible.

zornyan · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

IC and Orsinium took them like 1.5 year, I expect no major content updates in at least 1 year after Orsinium but we indeed get something smaller like said above. Spell Crafting cant be that far I suppose, that sounds like fun to mess around and maybe Justice Update 2.

We've already been told dark brotherhood and the thieves guild are coming 8n the 1st and 2nd quarters. So judging by current time scales we're looking at around March and june.

Robbmrp · October 2015

zornyan wrote: »

Sausage wrote: »

IC and Orsinium took them like 1.5 year, I expect no major content updates in at least 1 year after Orsinium but we indeed get something smaller like said above. Spell Crafting cant be that far I suppose, that sounds like fun to mess around and maybe Justice Update 2.

We've already been told dark brotherhood and the thieves guild are coming 8n the 1st and 2nd quarters. So judging by current time scales we're looking at around March and june.

Correct, here's the link for the article that talks about them for Qtr1 and Qtr 2 of 2016.

https://games.yahoo.com/news/elder-scrolls-online-adding-thieves-164800280.html

Sausage · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

Maybe but they have done so much already. Craglorn, Upper Craglorn, CP system, Justice System, IC and now Orsinium. Probably something what I miss too. Im fine if they want to keep adding content, but somewhere has to go the line. [/quote]

wait, what do you mean with "somewhere has to go the line? (maybe because I am not EN native, I do not understand the meaning of the expression). I think the best way for ZOS would be to milk it as long it gets. To add content forever. Nirn is huge, so they can do it like 10 years + and still there would be more to add.

Somewhere has to go the line where the content stops coming. As far I know WoW adds expansion every 2 year. Zen has already added that and more in 1.5 year.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · October 2015

ChaosWotan wrote: »

"Here I thought it was fun to have new levels to get and new gear to get every now and again. What are they supposed to do? Stagnate the game?"

New gear is fun. Having to grind new v18 gear after using over a month to grind enough to afford the best v16 legendary gear is certainly not fun.

Who said anything abut V18? The cap isnt going up with Orsinium. Its been months since the cap went up and will be months and months more before it goes up again. So you have nothing to worry about.

CJohnson81 · October 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Raise level cap. steal all our gear again. Say hello to V18 and some DLC where we can grind it all back

Here I thought it was fun to have new levels to get and new gear to get every now and again. What are they supposed to do? Stagnate the game?

Biggest complaint on these forums, across the board - "I hate this game because the developers make me play it."

Korah_Eaglecry · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I would actually like to see where they said this. Rumors of this magnitude can be quite depressing to some if proven only rumor.

Its not a rumor. Go watch their last Quakecon Panel.

Dark Brotherhood some time in early 2016 followed by Thieves Guild after that. Murkmire and Clockwork City are also in the works.

Considering how much time goes into designing just a single zone, from concept to world-building, Id wager we will see a rotation of Zone DLCs like Orsinium mixed in with DLCs that are more Quality of Life-Immersion Developing like Dark Brotherhood and Thieves Guild will be.

They claim they are going to be able to release content every quarter. But with a single zone taking 5-6 months to design and build before even laying in the ground work for quests. I doubt they can provide us a new zone every quarter.

Just so people are clear on what a quarter is and the time window ZOS has given themselves for release of content.

1st quarter: 1 October 2015 – 31 December 2015
2nd quarter: 1 January 2016 – 31 March 2016
3rd quarter: 1 April 2016 – 30 June 2016
4th quarter: 1 July 2016 – 30 September 2016

Imperial City was released for PC in August and PS4/Xbox One in September putting it on the end of the 4th Quarter. Orsinium is coming out Mid-November so itll be square in the middle of the 1st Quarter. For us, it seems like theyre dropping left and right. But theres no guarantee that Dark Brotherhood will release in January since they have til the end of March before they start to look like liars. Same thing for Thieves Guild in the 3rd Quarter. They can launch it in April or wait til June.

DaveMoeDee · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

IC and Orsinium took them like 1.5 year, I expect no major content updates in at least 1 year after Orsinium but we indeed get something smaller like said above. Spell Crafting cant be that far I suppose, that sounds like fun to mess around and maybe Justice Update 2.

I don't see how 1 year follows. Especially since during the 1.5 years you mention, they added console support (a major effort), justice system, 2 Craglorns, and trials. Most of all, they dealt with an insane number of launch bugs. Seems pretty unlikely that it takes a full year to get next DLC out unless a bunch of key people leave at the same time (which can mess up any project).

Is there any reason to believe they are working on a justice update apart from posts here from people who crave more PvP?

DaveMoeDee · October 2015

Sausage wrote: »

Im hoping that Dark Brotherhood and Thief guilds are like Mage and Fighter guilds with new skills and ultimates. Thiefs ultimate could be some trap, or set of traps, and could slow down entire zerg and Dark Brotherhood some high single-target-damage thing, why this game does not have DoTs btw, they could even add Cure Poison Potion for example.

This is what I am expecting. New skill lines are among the most value-adding type of new content. Especially skill lines accessible to all.

Hopefully, if they do add skill lines, leveling the line can be done by completing DLC content.

Brrrofski · October 2015

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Raise level cap. steal all our gear again. Say hello to V18 and some DLC where we can grind it all back

Here I thought it was fun to have new levels to get and new gear to get every now and again. What are they supposed to do? Stagnate the game?

They should have released it for pc only at the time.

Everything is still new on console. A lot hadn't got to 14, done trials, all the pledges, craglorn.

Those sho got to 14 used all mats on end game armor then within weeks it was redundant.

We could have waited another month or so.

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO · October 2015

CJohnson81 wrote: »

jamesharv2005ub17_ESO wrote: »

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Raise level cap. steal all our gear again. Say hello to V18 and some DLC where we can grind it all back

Here I thought it was fun to have new levels to get and new gear to get every now and again. What are they supposed to do? Stagnate the game?

Biggest complaint on these forums, across the board - "I hate this game because the developers make me play it."

I havent played it because my playstyle (solo casual with sometimes grouping for dungeons etc) has been ignored since launch. So all my characters were stuck between VR10 and VR12. Craglorn was terrible and required groups just to walk around. IC was meant for PVP only and is a huge disaster because of it. I wish they could have released orsinium and IC at the same time but I know thats probably not feasible as far as from the development end. Ill play it again once the worthgar DLC is out. Until then I have nothing to do but sit and stare at the screen. I cant grind all way from 12 to 16. I mean I could I guess but Id rather quit first lol.

Asherons_Call · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I would actually like to see where they said this. Rumors of this magnitude can be quite depressing to some if proven only rumor.

I can confirm as well that I heard this. I think it was an ESO live in august

Asherons_Call · October 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Raise level cap. steal all our gear again. Say hello to V18 and some DLC where we can grind it all back

Welcome to MMOs

Forestd16b14_ESO · October 2015

It's either drakbrother hood and thieves guild (hopeing they don't let any one join always played the noble hero) or Vivecs Clock Work city. After those Yea guess is as good as mine. Sure ESO is a year and half old and has a few contents now but ESO story is just really starting.

nimander99 · October 2015

The next DLC will be Sheogorath's Cheese Festival, where we will slowly go insane killing giant wheels of cheese and our only source of health will be eating Sharpe Cheddar

NobleNerd · October 2015

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I believe it is Thieve's Guild then Dark Brotherhood

altemriel · October 2015

NobleNerd wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I believe it is Thieve's Guild then Dark Brotherhood

was it not supposed to be Murkmire

?

https://youtube.com/watch?t=166&v=cEvfX1gPa_4

miked83b14_ESO · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I would actually like to see where they said this. Rumors of this magnitude can be quite depressing to some if proven only rumor.

I believe they announced new dlc each quarter at Quakecon 2015. Thieves Guild and Dark Brotherhood dlc confirmed.

zornyan · October 2015

Plenty of games do quarterly DLC now, they're not working on one at a time, they'll have 3-4 teams working on each DLC individually, as one releases they're working on the next, hell they are more than likely already working on DLC for 2017 now.

If they only did one at a yime, then it would literally be years between dlc.

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

Enodoc wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I would actually like to see where they said this. Rumors of this magnitude can be quite depressing to some if proven only rumor.

I think it was in this year's QuakeCon presentation.

So I'm thinking:
Before June 2016: Thieves Guild, Abah's Landing, Dark Brotherhood, Spiral Skein (Mephala's Realm), Clockwork City
September 2016: Murkmire
December 2016: Gold Coast

I see. Well then all we can do is wait and see lol

altemriel · October 2015

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I would actually like to see where they said this. Rumors of this magnitude can be quite depressing to some if proven only rumor.

I think it was in this year's QuakeCon presentation.

So I'm thinking:
Before June 2016: Thieves Guild, Abah's Landing, Dark Brotherhood, Spiral Skein (Mephala's Realm), Clockwork City
September 2016: Murkmire
December 2016: Gold Coast

I see. Well then all we can do is wait and see lol

no, Murkmire should be the first one next year I hope. Then Abah`s Landing or Mephalas realm (Thieves` Guild and/or Assassins` guild)

Then the dwemer clock city (looks totally steampunky btw.

altemriel · October 2015

check this out

there is the whole history of those two guilds described

http://elderscrolls.wikia.com/wiki/Mephala

UltimaJoe777 · October 2015

altemriel wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

Enodoc wrote: »

UltimaJoe777 wrote: »

MikeB wrote: »

They already said dark brotherhood then thieves guild after Orsinium

I would actually like to see where they said this. Rumors of this magnitude can be quite depressing to some if proven only rumor.

I think it was in this year's QuakeCon presentation.

So I'm thinking:
Before June 2016: Thieves Guild, Abah's Landing, Dark Brotherhood, Spiral Skein (Mephala's Realm), Clockwork City
September 2016: Murkmire
December 2016: Gold Coast

I see. Well then all we can do is wait and see lol

no, Murkmire should be the first one next year I hope. Then Abah`s Landing or Mephalas realm (Thieves` Guild and/or Assassins` guild)

Then the dwemer clock city (looks totally steampunky btw.

I meant all we can do is wait and see what Zenimax brings to the table after Orsinium lol