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stealth nerf to kags with patch.
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Glarin✭✭✭No still have 25% reductionAldmeri Dominon: Glarin |Dragonknight *** Erìnwy |SorcererEbonheart Pact: Alexandrìte |Dragonknight |Former Emperor *** Oops I Negated Again |Sorcerer |Former EmperorDaggerfall Covenant: Eìr |Templar0 -
MaximillianDiE✭✭✭✭Prolly because it was stupidly OP. I run it on my magicka DK as its a great magicka set with the extra spell damage. For me the quicker rez is a bonus but in the hands of a good Templar its a gamechanger as being able to pretty much insta rez your team can turn a loss into a win pretty fast.Maximillian Die Caesar - DC - [K-Hole] RetiredRetiredMaximillian AD [[DiE]4 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭god I hope not. That set sat untouched since launch and how that they add spell power to it they are going to nerf it?
STOP NERFING THINGS!!!!7 -
Anazasi✭✭✭✭✭
✭something has changed I know this for real. It is now longer than 2.5 seconds with full rez bonuses. its been nerfed....0 -
Winnamine✭✭✭✭✭As far as I know, it still works.
But remember that your support passive that gives increased rez speed doesn't work outside of Cyrodiil, or in the Imperial City, so rezzes in those places will be slower.
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Fizzlewizzle✭✭✭✭If anything was to be changed on that set, then it should be the Spell damage!
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Anazasi✭✭✭✭✭
✭I'm in pvp on the keep map I have been using this set for a year I know it has changed. something is wrong.0 -
Yolokin_Swagonborn✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭I'm in pvp on the keep map I have been using this set for a year I know it has changed. something is wrong.
ZOS time to fess up. Nothing hurts the community more than stealth nerfs. We realize you make changes all the time even if we dont agree.
JUST ADMIT THEM!!
Stealth nerfs hurt the morale of the gaming community and make me not want to play.3 -
k2blader✭✭✭✭✭Stealth nerfs suck.
But seriously, if it has indeed been nerfed, it's because that dude or dudette brought up some "Kag's the new FCs" concern. That is the only reason. If not, I doubt Zeni would've noticed.
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Ezareth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭something has changed I know this for real. It is now longer than 2.5 seconds with full rez bonuses. its been nerfed....
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Anazasi✭✭✭✭✭
✭can anyone confirm what the full resurrection time is without any buffs and being a non Templar. I'm thinking its like 10 to 12 seconds.
Templar Restoring Light, Master Ritualist -20%
Alliance War, Support -30%
Kagrenac's hope -25%
Total -75%
12 second -75% = 3.0s
10 second -75% = 2.5s
8 second -75% = 2.0
would like to see something actual but at present in pvp on the keep map its taking 3.0 seconds to resurrect when prior to Monday it was 1.5 seconds. I would like to see if anyone can confirm this changed and have ZOS respond to it.
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Gilvoth✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »I'm in pvp on the keep map I have been using this set for a year I know it has changed. something is wrong.
ZOS time to fess up. Nothing hurts the community more than stealth nerfs. We realize you make changes all the time even if we dont agree.
JUST ADMIT THEM!!
Stealth nerfs hurt the morale of the gaming community and make me not want to play.
i agree with you, i admit that this aint cooth in the least.0 -
Fizzlewizzle✭✭✭✭
That would be rubbish.SleepyTroll wrote: »Maybe they made it like every other buff, and they dont stack now.
Another Templar skill that gets replaced by an ingame item, and guess what... again Restoring Light tree.
(You hardly keep anything useful in that tree if they indeed don't stack.)
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thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭Where were you rezzing people? Remember, you dont get your support passives in IC so it may seem like its not working but really youre just not getting the increase rez speed passive.
Or at leat i speculate all of this.Edited by thelordoffelines on October 8, 2015 4:11PM0 -
Daveheart✭✭✭✭full rez skill and set now takes 3.0 seconds to rez on the pvp keep map.
I didn't notice anything last night, but I was only in for a short period and only had one rez. I also don't have the alliance passives on this templar. Did you have anyone else test this? Or did you try without Kag's? Also, what is your Kag's setup? I've been running 4 v16 and 1 v15 due to a crafting mistake I've been too lazy to correct; this seems to have saved me from the increased damage while wearing Kag's bug.Daggerfall Covenant (PC-NA)
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭They probably made it multiplicative. So if it is 8 seconds(?) no more (.25) * 8= 2 but rather (.7) * (.75) * (.8) * 8 = 3.36.
Which makes sense since all other reductions in the game stack like this. Otherwise you have to be very careful you don't wind up with 100% reductions (mitigation in particular).0 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭full rez skill and set now takes 3.0 seconds to rez on the pvp keep map.
I didn't notice anything last night, but I was only in for a short period and only had one rez. I also don't have the alliance passives on this templar. Did you have anyone else test this? Or did you try without Kag's? Also, what is your Kag's setup? I've been running 4 v16 and 1 v15 due to a crafting mistake I've been too lazy to correct; this seems to have saved me from the increased damage while wearing Kag's bug.
Glad to hear I'm not the only one who f***s up his crafting from time to time.0 -
Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭It makes no sense to make it multiplicative, because if you had more than one bonus it would actually increase the time it takes to rez versus just having one bonus.
So if rez takes 8 seconds and the bonuses are additive (stack) then it's a 2 second rez (reduce 75% of 8 seconds = reduced by 6 seconds).Templar Restoring Light, Master Ritualist -20%
Alliance War, Support -30%
Kagrenac's hope -25%
Total -75%
But if it's multiplicative, 0.2*0.3*0.25*8 seconds =0 .12 seconds reduction, so the rez would take 7.88 seconds.
Then again, this is ZOS we're talking about...
More likely if there's any nerf/"balancing" then it's probably as Mojican suggests, that there could be a minimum rez time.-
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭It makes no sense to make it multiplicative, because if you had more than one bonus it would actually increase the time it takes to rez versus just having one bonus.
So if rez takes 8 seconds and the bonuses are additive (stack) then it's a 2 second rez (reduce 75% of 8 seconds = reduced by 6 seconds).Templar Restoring Light, Master Ritualist -20%
Alliance War, Support -30%
Kagrenac's hope -25%
Total -75%
But if it's multiplicative, 0.2*0.3*0.25*8 seconds =0 .12 seconds reduction, so the rez would take 7.88 seconds.
Then again, this is ZOS we're talking about...
More likely if there's any nerf/"balancing" then it's probably as Mojican suggests, that there could be a minimum rez time.
You got your maths wrong. It's (1-.25), (1-.3), and (1-.2)
Or in other words a total 58% reduction, not the current 75% reduction.Edited by danno8 on October 8, 2015 6:23PM0 -
Kartalin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Yeah, sorry. Long day![:\](https://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/resources/emoji/confused.png ":\")
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Manoekin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Would be nice if they nerfed it. Been running into 60man zerg raids where everyone is wearing Krag's Hope, and it seems there strategy is to just res each other faster than you can kill them all until you get bored and leave or something. They don't even really fight back.2 -
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danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@ZOS_GinaBruno it would be really nice to know if this is for real? I am about to craft this set and I really would like to know if its useless now or if it is just an uninteded bug.
I can honestly say my resurrection speed seems as fast now as it did when I first put on the set 4 weeks ago. Like around 3 seconds. That's Templar passive full, Krags set and only 1/2 for Alliance rank passive.
I would not be surprised though if they did nerf it to be multiplicative rather than additive. Not only to prevent dangerous outcomes like 100% reductions but also to allow for future development.0
