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Fix the Kagnerac set please :D

NativeJoe
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I'm a breton and thus have 15k spell resist and am in full legendary gear just getting owned. I think it may be a damage mitigation bug with this set because I don't receive damage like this in my other sets o.o

http://imgur.com/AoMmogS
http://imgur.com/MHmwZaf
http://imgur.com/BOwIUCf
http://imgur.com/DKkIWTq
http://imgur.com/W4Oufn1
http://imgur.com/RVrIETS
http://imgur.com/0MWn6ap
http://imgur.com/vwy3UWD
http://imgur.com/RYL38W1
http://imgur.com/sxCm9lk

compared to others sets:

http://i.imgur.com/uCHid0g.png
http://i.imgur.com/wDU1Tjy.png


and from other mobs.. oh god do they hit hard. 18k a poke isn't uncommon.

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  • Rylana
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    none of those screenshots (and yes I did look at all of them) are all that out of the ordinary. meth hits like a truck.

    you also got impaled (executed) for 11k, which while high, is still well within the capable range of that ability especially if youre very low health and they are a very high damage spec

    theres been this rumor floating around that kags is broken, all of these screens from multiple players, but when i look at death recaps in other threads, the numbers are all in line with anything else.

    perhaps i am the only player in the whole game that uses kags hope and doesnt have this problem, maybe i am.

    but i havent seen any unusual damage from any source (other than when rearming trap was bugged) while using it

    youre getting hit by 10k prox dets, 9k wrecking blows, and 7k frags in these screens. every single one of those numbers sounds exactly where they should be.

    for example, on my EP sorc, my crystal frags will crit an NPC for about 20-25k (30k on an outlier) when they are empowered/procced. if that same frag hits you, with my spell pen, its going to do about 9-11k even after the damage reduction from battle spirit. it will still do over 5k even if you block it.

    just some perspective.
    Edited by Rylana on October 7, 2015 10:14AM
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  • Beesting
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    For a good comparison it is better to compare the promity detonation damage using different sets

    I see the reds are spawncamping you, so it is easy to change gear and run back out into their prox detonations

    BTW: I use vr16 Elf Bane 4x and Torug's pact 3x (with vr16 legendary nirn shield) and last night our group of 12 was swarmed by 30 reds with proxmitiy detonations and it did not kill me

    steel tornado and flying blade did after we killed a lot of them ^^
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  • willymchilybily
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    Edit: mis-read,

    but still. seems like you have one guy with huges damage, dont see how that relates to kagnerac.
    1.3k Light attack, 6-7k funnnel health, 12k prox det. i see nothing odd but how strong he is. i also have no idea how you can guess what sets they wear if its a self crafted set.
    Edited by willymchilybily on October 7, 2015 11:02AM
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  • NativeJoe
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    I wasn't guessing there sets. I was the one wearing kag. Idk, guess I could be wrong... I just feel like I'm taking WAY more damage then usual

    Guess I'll have to figure something out...because with this set and spell power set up I can barley stand up to a group of IC mobs. like I almost die 2-3 times per set up and the only reason I survive is because im a sorc with shields. and yes I get it... l2p roll dodge, spend pots like one's at a club, and get on the macro and animation cancle bandwagon x.x
    Edited by NativeJoe on October 7, 2015 4:18PM
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  • talon_vib14_ESO
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    I believe there is another topic on the forums in regards to this. The user shows dmg taken from a specific mob attack with and without the Kag set on. With Kags the dmg taken is literally doubled.
  • Beesting
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    NativeJoe wrote: »
    I wasn't guessing there sets. I was the one wearing kag. Idk, guess I could be wrong... I just feel like I'm taking WAY more damage then usual

    Guess I'll have to figure something out...because with this set and spell power set up I can barley stand up to a group of IC mobs. like I almost die 2-3 times per set up and the only reason I survive is because im a sorc with shields. and yes I get it... l2p roll dodge, spend pots like one's at a club, and get on the macro and animation cancle bandwagon x.x

    I was leveling a vr2 dk to vr5 yesterday in the sewers and i could solo 6 mobs (casters, zombies, banekins etc) at the time, just using 5 x warlock and 5 x seducer.

    Of course a bit of kiting was necessary, but i did it without any problems at a spot where no other people were (except for one red sorc that kept killing me a few times lol)
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  • NativeJoe
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    I believe there is another topic on the forums in regards to this. The user shows dmg taken from a specific mob attack with and without the Kag set on. With Kags the dmg taken is literally doubled.

    That would represent how I feel, lol

    Just saying I feel tankier wearing my vr 12 spare set, then wearing a vr 16 kags. I don't have real specific evidence, I'm just saying the damage doesn't feel "normal" lol

    on a side not... any super elites want to express what is on their bars as a sorc? cuz I feel pretty weak with 3.7k spell power compared to ...well...anyone that isn't in greens :P
    Whatching my stam sorc friend I see his dps meter power creeping at 30-140k on aoe situations, and I see myself around 14-30k depending on many there are. single target (not including ultimate) I see myself between 7-14k, meanwhile I see my stam sorc friend between 14-24k single target. Nightblades I see a similar pattern.
    Guess I just wanna ask what is making everyone elses build... pop.

    is it all in the animation cancles/macros?

    I know im doing *something* wrong because pre dlc, people with a thousand less spell power then me now where claiming 50k bursts, 100k+ aoe dps, and 18k single target.
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  • dlepi24
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    Beesting wrote: »
    NativeJoe wrote: »
    I wasn't guessing there sets. I was the one wearing kag. Idk, guess I could be wrong... I just feel like I'm taking WAY more damage then usual

    Guess I'll have to figure something out...because with this set and spell power set up I can barley stand up to a group of IC mobs. like I almost die 2-3 times per set up and the only reason I survive is because im a sorc with shields. and yes I get it... l2p roll dodge, spend pots like one's at a club, and get on the macro and animation cancle bandwagon x.x

    I was leveling a vr2 dk to vr5 yesterday in the sewers and i could solo 6 mobs (casters, zombies, banekins etc) at the time, just using 5 x warlock and 5 x seducer.

    Of course a bit of kiting was necessary, but i did it without any problems at a spot where no other people were (except for one red sorc that kept killing me a few times lol)

    You're battle leveled....you probably have close to 40k health.
  • NativeJoe
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    Beesting wrote: »
    NativeJoe wrote: »
    I wasn't guessing there sets. I was the one wearing kag. Idk, guess I could be wrong... I just feel like I'm taking WAY more damage then usual

    Guess I'll have to figure something out...because with this set and spell power set up I can barley stand up to a group of IC mobs. like I almost die 2-3 times per set up and the only reason I survive is because im a sorc with shields. and yes I get it... l2p roll dodge, spend pots like one's at a club, and get on the macro and animation cancle bandwagon x.x

    I was leveling a vr2 dk to vr5 yesterday in the sewers and i could solo 6 mobs (casters, zombies, banekins etc) at the time, just using 5 x warlock and 5 x seducer.

    Of course a bit of kiting was necessary, but i did it without any problems at a spot where no other people were (except for one red sorc that kept killing me a few times lol)

    well since u appear to be better then me. can you skip around in this video and tell me what im doing wrong. this is maelstrom arena. http://www.twitch.tv/trixytricks/v/19434916 I'm trying to build ultimate here and kinda piddle along in this dungeon surviving. but thats mostly because my burst sucks! if I could Solidly burst and sustain I wouldn't have to do this<<<
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