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DK talons need a nerf
BaldusMageezack
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The ability shouldn't be able to be spammed over and over effectively trapping a player in place it needs increased magika cost per cast or no magika regen while active. It needs a hard counter also.
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Shadesofkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭You're joking right? The Flame damage for Flame Talons is blockable, roll dodging out of it is so common it's almost not worth it. We've had plenty of things toned down or cost increased, this doesn't need to be one of them.3 -
BaldusMageezack✭✭✭No it's spammable making it impossible to move. I'll make a video and keep making these posts don't worry. By the time you dodge roll there's more talonsEdited by BaldusMageezack on October 5, 2015 4:34PM0
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BaldusMageezack✭✭✭thelordoffelines wrote: »Every skill is spammable.
Not bolt escape because it was an issue. Just like DK talons0 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Oh ok then then sorcerers crystal frags need a nerf tired of being knocked down over and over again by there spam along with Night Blades OP fear tired of them spamming that too fear cost way to much to break just to be immetily feared again and know what why not nerf Templars Bitting Jabs too that causes not nly knock downs but is one of tere strongest skills.
In case you haven't relized that's sarcasm. Alot of skills are spammed and can cause frustration that is a well know fact and honestly I'll admit you have a point to some degree that more skill should follow the BE treatment of costing more after each repeated use to cut back on spamming.
But stop beating the dead horse us Dragon Knight have suffered long enough at the tyranny of the ZOS nerf gun because of players want us extinct just as real dragons. (Side note not all dragon are really dead go read some lore if you don't under stand this is just a metaphor.)2 -
thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭BaldusMageezack wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Every skill is spammable.
Not bolt escape because it was an issue. Just like DK talons
Oh you found the one exception. However, just like bolt escapr, talons isnt a problem.0 -
RizaHawkeye✭✭✭✭No it doesn't. Really.
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Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭BaldusMageezack wrote: »The ability shouldn't be able to be spammed over and over effectively trapping a player in place it needs increased magika cost per cast or no magika regen while active. It needs a hard counter also.
The hard counter is called purge.0 -
BaldusMageezack✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »Oh ok then then sorcerers crystal frags need a nerf tired of being knocked down over and over again by there spam along with Night Blades OP fear tired of them spamming that too fear cost way to much to break just to be immetily feared again and know what why not nerf Templars Bitting Jabs too that causes not nly knock downs but is one of tere strongest skills.
In case you haven't relized that's sarcasm. Alot of skills are spammed and can cause frustration that is a well know fact and honestly I'll admit you have a point to some degree that more skill should follow the BE treatment of costing more after each repeated use to cut back on spamming.
But stop beating the dead horse us Dragon Knight have suffered long enough at the tyranny of the ZOS nerf gun because of players want us extinct just as real dragons. (Side note not all dragon are really dead go read some lore if you don't under stand this is just a metaphor.)
Fear gives a 6 seconds CC immunity. Give that to me after talons then. Crystal frags? 6 seconds cc immunity as said before give me that after talons. Biting jabs you can actually avoid since it's not a guaranteed hit and i can back away. Anything else to add?0 -
BaldusMageezack✭✭✭thelordoffelines wrote: »BaldusMageezack wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Every skill is spammable.
Not bolt escape because it was an issue. Just like DK talons
Oh you found the one exception. However, just like bolt escapr, talons isnt a problem.
Apparently the devs thought it was. They need to take a look at talons too0 -
thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭BaldusMageezack wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »BaldusMageezack wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Every skill is spammable.
Not bolt escape because it was an issue. Just like DK talons
Oh you found the one exception. However, just like bolt escapr, talons isnt a problem.
Apparently the devs thought it was. They need to take a look at talons too
They didnt think it was, the bad players thought it was. I see a repeat happening now with talons (of all the things...)0 -
DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭everytime a person says nerf a DK, a kitten dies.....there's a lot of dead kittens1 -
Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭I don't mind talons, but they do need to fix directional control while in talons. Since launch, you can not change the direction your character is facing while in talons. The direction you are facing controls things like streak, and it makes attacking a circling opponent really annoying.1 -
BaldusMageezack✭✭✭thelordoffelines wrote: »BaldusMageezack wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »BaldusMageezack wrote: »thelordoffelines wrote: »Every skill is spammable.
Not bolt escape because it was an issue. Just like DK talons
Oh you found the one exception. However, just like bolt escapr, talons isnt a problem.
Apparently the devs thought it was. They need to take a look at talons too
They didnt think it was, the bad players thought it was. I see a repeat happening now with talons (of all the things...)
I appreciate the name calling and all but this is no place for that.Edited by BaldusMageezack on October 5, 2015 4:45PM0 -
Bashev✭✭✭✭✭
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What is your class? You can only complain if you are a DK cause a DK has no class counter to talons. All the other classes have. There a lot of no class skills which are counter to talons.BaldusMageezack wrote: »
Because I can!0 -
BaldusMageezack✭✭✭
What is your class? You can only complain if you are a DK cause a DK has no class counter to talons. All the other classes have. There a lot of no class skills which are counter to talons.BaldusMageezack wrote: »
There is no counter to talons because it can just be recast. The only ability I can see getting me away is bolt escape0 -
r.jan_emailb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭BaldusMageezack wrote: »
No, shuffle makes you immune for a few seconds. So does Forward Momentum (i think). You can also block talons. Those count as hard counters in my book.Lairgren | DC Dragonknight - August Palatine
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BaldusMageezack✭✭✭r.jan_emailb16_ESO wrote: »BaldusMageezack wrote: »
No, shuffle makes you immune for a few seconds. So does Forward Momentum (i think). You can also block talons. Those count as hard counters in my book.
You can block the dmg not the root. I don't use medium armor but im pretty sure that for snare not roots, and the same with forward momentumEdited by BaldusMageezack on October 5, 2015 4:48PM0 -
thelordoffelines✭✭✭✭✭I don't mind talons, but they do need to fix directional control while in talons. Since launch, you can not change the direction your character is facing while in talons. The direction you are facing controls things like streak, and it makes attacking a circling opponent really annoying.
Ooooor they can just make it so we can bolt in any direction like we used to be able to (as opposed in the direction youre facing like now).0 -
Forestd16b14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭@BaldusMageezack Everything gives CC immunity now roll dodge out of talons CC immunity knocked down CC immunity feared ? CC immunity. It's that players spam CC, snares, knock backs and all that to fast for CC immunity to work right.
So again stop beating the dead horse DKs have suffered enough. I really don't wanna say L2P I never said it before but with how ridiculous your argument is making me consider saying it.
If CC immunity isn't working for you then you can always use immovable potions granting immunity to CC and all that all you need is Columbine, Mountain flowers, and worm wood for a immovable potion that restores health, stamina, and grants CC immunity.0 -
Xeven✭✭✭✭✭
✭thelordoffelines wrote: »I don't mind talons, but they do need to fix directional control while in talons. Since launch, you can not change the direction your character is facing while in talons. The direction you are facing controls things like streak, and it makes attacking a circling opponent really annoying.
Ooooor they can just make it so we can bolt in any direction like we used to be able to (as opposed in the direction youre facing like now).
Yeah it used to be in the direction of the camera, but they changed that for console nubs I assume. I really prefer the old way.0 -
BaldusMageezack✭✭✭Forestd16b14_ESO wrote: »@BaldusMageezack Everything gives CC immunity now roll dodge out of talons CC immunity knocked down CC immunity feared ? CC immunity. It's that players spam CC, snares, knock backs and all that to fast for CC immunity to work right.
So again stop beating the dead horse DKs have suffered enough. I really don't wanna say L2P I never said it before but with how ridiculous your argument is making me consider saying it.
If CC immunity isn't working for you then you can always use immovable potions granting immunity to CC and all that all you need is Columbine, Mountain flowers, and worm wood for a immovable potion that restores health, stamina, and grants CC immunity.
No cc immunity does not apply to roots0 -
DUTCH_REAPER✭✭✭✭✭
✭Seriously. With the problems DKs currently have right now, way to go and just spit in our eyes man.0 -
BaldusMageezack✭✭✭DUTCH_REAPER wrote: »Seriously. With the problems DKs currently have right now, way to go and just spit in our eyes man.
you're welcome0
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